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nath_mk6
31-07-2010, 08:06 PM
So for those looking for their next big power upgrade, the following is from the AWE website (just to clarify I have no interest in either GIAC or AWE, just wanting to share the love ;)) :cool: enjoy

Using a combination of high performance OEM parts, beautifully designed solutions from A.W.E. Tuning, and cutting edge software from G.I.A.C., this turbo kit will surpass all expectations.

http://www.awe-tuning.com/media/products/awe/mk5_k04/tsi/awe_tsi_k04_800.jpg

Please note that our Hardware Only kit does not include software. K04 specific software is required to safely run a K04 turbo on your vehicle. Please see our kit FAQ for details if you choose to purchase our K04 kit without G.I.A.C. software.

The K04 turbocharger from the European market Audi S3 redefines the idea of what is possible from a bolt on K04. With some clever components that we designed and also manufacture in house, we've adapted this bruiser of a turbo to the Mk6 2.0T TSI engine with satisfying results:

335 (249kW) crank horsepower and 345 crank torque (467Nm) when using the stock airbox and intercooler
342 (255kW) crank horsepower and 349 crank torque (472Nm)when using the Audi S3 Intercooler and stock airbox
350 (261kW) crank horsepower and 360 crank torque (487Nm)with the Audi S3 Intercooler and a cold air intake

In addition to the standard dyno testing, we wanted to give you another way to measure the benefits of our TSI K04 Turbo Kit. With that we took our in-house Mk6 GTI DSG to the track for some closed course acceleration runs. Our Acceleration Comparison gives you a visual and statistical representation of how a Stage 2 car compares to one with our TSI K04 Turbo Kit

http://www.awe-tuning.com/media/dynosheets/mk6/AWE_GIAC_mk6_k04_engine.jpg

Video available here (couldnt embed) http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/videos/video_AWE_MK6_20T_K04_kit.cfm

http://www.awe-tuning.com/media/accelsheets/AWE_mk6_k04_vs_st2_accel.jpg

Our included Diverter Valve Relocation Kit moves the diverter valve from its stock location to higher up in the engine bay near the turbo inlet pipe. This grants easier access to the DV for servicing and replacement. Our included Diverter Valve adapter housing also allows any OEM or properly designed aftermarket DV to be used, which is a further cost savings for you. We do recommend adding our upgraded DV to ensure long term reliability.

The Front Mounted Intercooler from the Audi S3 FMIC is a very efficient and economical way to better cool the intake charge vs stock. With some specially designed silicone hoses, we were able to adapt the S3 FMIC to the TSI engine.

Further, any properly designed cold air intake that works with the stock turbo will also work with our kit, saving you even more money if you already purchased a cold air intake.

The elegance and simplicity of this turbo kit's design is unmatched.

Working directly with G.I.A.C. for the software version of this turbo kit, as with all our turbo products, we were able to retain perfect drivability manners, as well as to develop robust programming that maintains all factory safeties and emissions monitoring. The responsiveness of the turbo is well suited to this front wheel drive platform. Power delivery is smooth, with no sense of extreme turbo lag or twitchiness. Factory fuel injectors and high pressure fuel pump are also retained.

Please note! Installation of G.I.A.C. software requires that you send your fuel injection ECU or bring your car to an authorized G.I.A.C. install center. Also, a properly designed performance turbo back exhaust is required for safe and optimal operation of this kit. All development work was done on multiple test cars fitted with our 2.5 inch turbo back exhaust system.

There is a $250 trade in discount for purchasers upgrading from G.I.A.C. stock turbo software.

This kit requires use of the included Diverter Valve Relocation kit. Vehicles not equipped with a factory noise pipe will require some additional parts for installation.

Note: We're offering a hardware only version of our Mk6 K04 Turbo Kits. These kits bundle the proven hardware from our 2.0T K04 Kits but leave out the G.I.A.C. software for increased savings. Please be sure you select the proper kit when ordering.

Big Yellow
31-07-2010, 08:13 PM
good bit of kit!

tony is running this on his fsi motor, im sure the tsi kit would make more.

nath_mk6
31-07-2010, 08:36 PM
yeah it looks good, around the US$2.5K plus shipping etc by the looks of it, I'm sure there is someone around that would want to give it a go..... >D

Sammy
31-07-2010, 09:34 PM
so much want..

Tinto
31-07-2010, 10:03 PM
It would be good to know what the labour costs are for the man on the street.
(I.e not subsidized/discounted) to be able to see the value in it.
I'm surprised by the 2.5k, but it isn't turn key - Byo turbo back exhaust?

Adding it all up (add in some ambitious rounding up as a contingency / shit happens) and I'd be looking hard at an R before strapping on a k04.

Robby_jai
31-07-2010, 10:33 PM
335 (249kW) crank horsepower and 345 crank torque (467Nm) when using the stock airbox and intercooler
342 (255kW) crank horsepower and 349 crank torque (472Nm)when using the Audi S3 Intercooler and stock airbox
350 (261kW) crank horsepower and 360 crank torque (487Nm)with the Audi S3 Intercooler and a cold air intake


some very fanciful numbers if you ask me!!! 261kw with just an S3 Intercooler and CAI with stock exhaust and only a K04! I call BS on that. There are numerous S3's with full Stage 2 exhaust systems that are only making 260kw. I fail to see how the same turbo can pump out 260 with just an air box and intercooler

nath_mk6
31-07-2010, 10:48 PM
some very fanciful numbers if you ask me!!! 261kw with just an S3 Intercooler and CAI with stock exhaust and only a K04! I call BS on that. There are numerous S3's with full Stage 2 exhaust systems that are only making 260kw. I fail to see how the same turbo can pump out 260 with just an air box and intercooler

haven't a clue Robby, I guess someone will just have to do it and run a local Dyno to show the truth of the matter....

Robby_jai
31-07-2010, 10:54 PM
haven't a clue Robby, I guess someone will just have to do it and run a local Dyno to show the truth of the matter....

there are fully converted GTI with a K04 turbo here in OZ.. tendy and co come to mind.. with full exhaust and all.. and those guys are pumping out 190kw at the wheels which equates to 250kw at the crank! That's Dyno proven cos I was at the same dyno day. There are known cases of them making 200kw at the wheels but thats with race fuel etc... and that only equates to 260kw at the crank...

so now you know why i think the numbers are a bit fanciful

Big Yellow
31-07-2010, 11:10 PM
200kw can be had without race fuel >D

MasterKevin
31-07-2010, 11:58 PM
very very nice kit imo :)

Robby_jai
01-08-2010, 12:09 AM
200kw can be had without race fuel >D

yeh but you cant deny you still need a full exhaust and probably a high pressure fuel pump to get those numbers terrence! I am sure you would agree with me that to get 260 with just an airbox k04 and S3 intercooler is highly unlikely

nath_mk6
01-08-2010, 12:10 AM
very very nice kit imo :)

do it Kevin.....

nath_mk6
01-08-2010, 12:13 AM
yeh but you cant deny you still need a full exhaust and probably a high pressure fuel pump to get those numbers terrence! I am sure you would agree with me that to get 260 with just an airbox k04 and S3 intercooler is highly unlikely

Yeah I know of the Mk5 K04 tunes, and of course the Pirelli boys, I wouldnt have a clue if the numbers are right or not to be honest. As for the fuel pump doesnt the Mk6 TSI have a much better one than the Mk5, seem to remember reading that the APR Stg 3 doesnt need an upgrade as the OEM one is good to go, there is also the different engine and compression ratios run in the Mk6 that may account for the differences, but in the end the only way to really know is to see a local dyno of a K04 running Mk6 GTI. Not something that I'd be doing, hey I still have my GTI at stock ecu!!

scotty1991
01-08-2010, 12:46 AM
I think the MK6 is making around 10-15kw more accross the board with mods anyway, so if a mk5 makes 190 atw, a mk6 could make 200kw without issues

blaze182
01-08-2010, 03:04 AM
There are known cases of them making 200kw at the wheels but thats with race fuel etc... and that only equates to 260kw at the crank...

Dean, Paolo and a couple others don't run race fuel and see figures at that region.

I'd be interested to see if they've modified the K04 in anyway.. maybe alternate inducer/exducer combo? You could drop a fat inducer on the k04 to get much higher power dyno figures, but translate it to the street and you'd have a lot more turbo lag.

TBH they could very well have done that, as the acclaimed acceleration times 0-60 for the k04 MK6 GTI are little above a stock Pirelli's 0-60 time (6.6 sec), also the torque figures in the dyno chart appear a fair way below that of Dean's torque figures - although I'm capped atm so I can't double check his dyno results, going off memory here.

But yeah, I reckon its a new inducer/exducer combo to generate bigger numbers for the dyno run. Can anyone get a hold of the turbo specs?

On a side note, impressive results seeing as they're run on 93 fuel.

Alex@A.W.E.
01-08-2010, 04:50 PM
Hey guys!

I hope you don't mind if I jump in really fast and clarify a few things.

All of the numbers you see advertised on our site are generated our Turboback Exhaust in place. When we quote power numbers, like "335 crank horsepower and 345 crank torque when using the stock airbox and intercooler" for example, this is assuming you have the minimum hardware requirements for the turbokit which in this case is an upgraded downpipe. If you think its confusing, let me know and I'll try to change the way it's listed on the website (I do all our web work). Sorry if it wasn't clear. I've relisted it below.

* 335 crank horsepower and 345 crank torque when using the stock airbox and intercooler and a Turboback Exhaust
* 342 crank horsepower and 349 crank torque when using the Audi S3 Intercooler and stock airbox and a Turboback Exhaust
* 350 crank horsepower and 360 crank torque with the Audi S3 Intercooler and a cold air intake and a Turboback Exhaust


Also, the turbo included in this kit hasn't been modified or changed in any way. We machine it in house so it is an easy, bolt on upgrade for the TSI motor. We don't change compressor wheels or anything of the sort on the turbo.

Hope that helps!

Alex

Robby_jai
01-08-2010, 05:10 PM
now that seems more like it. WITH a TBE i can believe those numbers

blaze182
01-08-2010, 05:55 PM
Hey guys!

I hope you don't mind if I jump in really fast and clarify a few things.

All of the numbers you see advertised on our site are generated our Turboback Exhaust in place. When we quote power numbers, like "335 crank horsepower and 345 crank torque when using the stock airbox and intercooler" for example, this is assuming you have the minimum hardware requirements for the turbokit which in this case is an upgraded downpipe. If you think its confusing, let me know and I'll try to change the way it's listed on the website (I do all our web work). Sorry if it wasn't clear. I've relisted it below.

* 335 crank horsepower and 345 crank torque when using the stock airbox and intercooler and a Turboback Exhaust
* 342 crank horsepower and 349 crank torque when using the Audi S3 Intercooler and stock airbox and a Turboback Exhaust
* 350 crank horsepower and 360 crank torque with the Audi S3 Intercooler and a cold air intake and a Turboback Exhaust


Also, the turbo included in this kit hasn't been modified or changed in any way. We machine it in house so it is an easy, bolt on upgrade for the TSI motor. We don't change compressor wheels or anything of the sort on the turbo.

Hope that helps!

Alex

Thanks for clarification =] In that case yeah... very much achievable figures.

Sammy
01-08-2010, 06:00 PM
i am totally doing this.

DeanCorp
01-08-2010, 06:14 PM
very very nice kit imo :)

GET IT!!!

MasterKevin
04-08-2010, 12:05 AM
GET IT!!!

lol im tossing up between teh APR and this :S..

one day no rush atm as so much money is going to weird things tehse days.. like my bunny and girlfriend haha

nath_mk6
24-11-2010, 07:49 PM
To bring this back from the dead....

So a guy in the states has had this upgrade done and has posted some numbers at last.

Running gear includes, S3 intercooler, intake, AWE downpipe, AWE DV valve, AWE Ko4 and only running on 91 octane (dont ask me why only 91).

So results from the dyno are, 259.3hp = ~ 193.4kw with 293.5 lb/ft = ~ 397.3 nm of torque.

He says he may have an issue with the PCV or boost leak and looks like he will be upping to a 93 octane program in the near future so it will be interesting to see what the numbers are like after all that.

Thread located here - http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9758

Big Yellow
24-11-2010, 08:08 PM
the states has a different fuel grading than here. 91 octane does not equal 91 ron.

stephen8512
25-11-2010, 09:47 PM
hmmmm interesting

and nath, as terrence pointed out, the states uses a different fuel grading. and on the whole, they have crapper fuel compared to us
I think from memory, their premium unleaded is our normal unleaded (i.e 91 RON) and I think their equivalent of Optimax/BP Ultimate etc only reaches 93 RON or something

nath_mk6
25-11-2010, 11:27 PM
yeah thats what I gathered, soo 200 atw with standard ULP, hmm wonder what 98 octane would do.....

Rev 555
25-11-2010, 11:43 PM
Well Nathan you know there is time betwwen now and Targa to get it fitted......and 200kw is not made up. If you added a bigger intercooler and a fuel pump......

Sammy
25-11-2010, 11:53 PM
Americans rate their fuel differently. they use the MON (motor octane number) instead of out RON (research octane number)..

Their 91 = our 95 octane. Their 93 MON = our 98.

YouSnooze
26-11-2010, 01:15 AM
Well Nathan you know there is time betwwen now and Targa to get it fitted......and 200kw is not made up. If you added a bigger intercooler and a fuel pump......
You don't need to upgrade the fuel pump on a TSI motor. The stocker on the Mk6 is fine even for a stage 3 kit. TFSI yes, TSI no.

Rev 555
26-11-2010, 08:22 AM
You don't need to upgrade the fuel pump on a TSI motor. The stocker on the Mk6 is fine even for a stage 3 kit. TFSI yes, TSI no.

Didnt know that. Even better value!