Negatives on the Golf R

[ASOD's]

Hey guys, im new to this forum and would like to ask a question.

Im seriously thinking about buying a Golf R, its such a beautifull car and looks like it'll last for decades.

Now ive read plently of good things about the golf R, i'm trying to find some negative points on it, not that it will discourage me from contacting my bank anyway, id just like to know what isnt so perfect about this fantastic looking car. From every magazine ive read, car review online from a million different websites i cannot find single review that states negative points on the R.

So for all those who have taken this car for a test drive, or those who already own it, what are some negative points on this car??

Thank you.

[CJ9999]

The wait.

[ozmale]

Yes have to agree THE WAIT.

I did read one review (from a guy who did not like European cars). Said "the DSG gear box was a pain in Traffic" That is the only -ve I have found.
Jeremy Clarkson did say in one interview it was the best car he had ever driven.

From my test drive along Sydney's military road (worst traffic in Sydney) the DSG seemed to perfect.

Having said all that there really is not enough of us who actually have their cars yet to give timely feed back.

[Jacquesvdub]

German engineering! No flaws. Haha

[Pharkus]

It's not a supercar.
You'll spend a mint modyfying it if you get the bug.
It doesn't bring you a beer when you are thirsty (not that you should be drink driving anyway).

But seriously mate, if you live in the nanny state or any state with speed limits and don't plan to track the thing, it does the job very competently. Now go buy one!

[Capercat]

Understeered as expected, but can be improved with bars, & turbo lag, that's what I concluded from a short drive.

[ASOD's]

Ok, thanks guys, keep adding to it if you want...

Sounds like one its one hell of a car.

I've also scoured the net for Clarksons thought on the R but can only find R. Hammonds review...but no video on that one either, has any one found the JC or RH video? I think JC comments on any car should most of the time be taken into account, seems like he'll give a no nonsense opinion...some comments excluded on many cars...(lol)

[Mr_Bob]

I've had mine for about 6 weeks now, definatley no regrets, definitely worth the wait

Negatives?
Nothing worth mentioning..and mostly golf related, rather than R specific

Auto-tint on the rear view mirror makes everything green and a little hard to see
Not the strongest air-conditioning in the world but it does the job even in the hot days
Poor vision when reversing
Things disappear in the door pockets
Talladegas could be easier to clean, but manageable


I prefer a really short throw shifter, but this is more of a modification thing
Also prefer really aggressive brakes, but the standard ones pull it up well enough for a spirited drive
Does tend to understeer, but not like a fwd, you need to be pushing and then it's minor

Worst part is that I didn't get the Recaros!!

[Bizi]

Golf R won't be a rarity like the original, so the lack of production number snobbery (those Ford RS owners!) is the only drawback I can think of (aside from not having a lairy green coloured one). :)

http://www.abt-sportsline.de/typo3temp/pics/abt04_scirocco_detail_e8d4ab1e5d.jpg
Credit to nath_mk6 for starting the Scirocco gallery thread (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?540-Scirocco-Picture-thread).


As long as you don't need to be Mr Exclusive... Go R! all the way.

[AP]

The engine should have been the R36 motor or at least the 2.5 litre turbo out of the TTRS..

[technopato]

The engine should have been the R36 motor or at least the 2.5 litre turbo out of the TTRS..

+1... that growl of the 3.6 or even 3.2 mated to a turbo!!

Also slightly detuned 188kw OZ version as opposed to 199kw euro version due to larger cooling system for OZ climate...

[stephen8512]

Negatives so far with my Golf R

- Upshift too quick in normal D mode (its conserving petrol apparently but it shouldnt upshift when im on an incline. I was struggling in 5th and had to manually use the paddles to go down to 4th). But ECU is still learning

- Lag compared to the GTI. Of course, those who have been in cars such as WRX, S15, R32, 33, 34 GTR etc will say that the lag in the Golf R is nothing compared to those, but its still there

- Daily driving wise in stop start traffic, GTI is probably better

- Poor vision when reversing, as what Ben said.

- Personally, as much as I love recaros, I think the normal seats in vienna leather are much more comfortable if using this car as a daily driver. Don't get me wrong, I still fit in my recaros, but it just that little bit tight. I just have to lose weight around my ass area I guess.

- As other have said, understeers but nothing that swaybars and decent suspension cant fix. And if you're not pushing it hard, its hardly noticeable.

- Talladegas look pretty good for OEM wheels, but can be painful to clean (I guess this is considered nitpicking because I had the oem Classix on my jetta and they were a real PITA)

- The fact that the rear windows come with privacy glass, thus darker. Not a big issue but just that extra obstacle to overcome when tinting the car. You want the front and rear to be the same darkness

- The 6 month long wait

- As per what AP said, at LEAST the 2.5 from the TTRS would have been sweet. No more VR6 engine, whch means no epic engine noise




Positives

- Not as nose heavy as the old MK5 R32

- It's a pretty damn good all rounder (so is the GTI for that matter)

- AWD. Personally, I like having that planted feel. Didn't like axle tramping in my old Jetta

- Tuning potential. Basically an S3 with VW written on it. Stage 1 software can potentially make this a sub 5 second car

- The sensation you get when you fly past the person you were stuck behind because they were travelling at 30km/h

- I like the fact it's quite understated. To the average person, they'd more than likely have to look twice to realise that the golf you have is actually a Golf R. Only people who know cars will know that its a Golf R.

- Boost is very linear all throughout the revrange, minus the lag. It just keeps pulling.

- Brakes are pretty phenomenal considering they are OEM.

- Also, the OEM brakes are not as "touchy" as the old OEM MK5 R32 Brakes with OEM brakepads.

- German engineering. Fit and finish is superb as always. And even if you want to change some things here and there, take parts off etc, they pull apart so easily but that doesn't mean that they're flimsy. It's like Lego. Everything just fits right back in perfectly.

- Very docile when you want it to be and very user friendly.

- Fuel economy is better than the old 3.2L V6 from the R32. So far on a full tank of 98RON optimax, I got 570kms...and thats with just normal driving with the odd squirt here and there. I think on average R32 owners get around 440-480kms....thats what I was told when I was looking for an R32 before the Golf R.

- Time will tell as to how many R's will be on the road in total but for now, it's quite exclusive (for the lucky few who got their R already) so exclusivity....even if it's short lived

[Bizi]

Thanks for the review, Stephen!

[CJ9999]

Upshift too quick in normal D mode

Got mine this afternoon, and so far I definitely agree with you about this.

In D it seems to change up much too early and then hangs on the high gears too long. The car feels heaps better in S or manual mode.

No other negatives so far - I'm just loving that I've finally got it after so long.

[_Just]

I've had mine for about 6 weeks now, definatley no regrets, definitely worth the wait

Negatives?
Nothing worth mentioning..and mostly golf related, rather than R specific

Auto-tint on the rear view mirror makes everything green and a little hard to see
Not the strongest air-conditioning in the world but it does the job even in the hot days
Poor vision when reversing
Things disappear in the door pockets
Talladegas could be easier to clean, but manageable


I prefer a really short throw shifter, but this is more of a modification thing
Also prefer really aggressive brakes, but the standard ones pull it up well enough for a spirited drive
Does tend to understeer, but not like a fwd, you need to be pushing and then it's minor

Worst part is that I didn't get the Recaros!!
There is a button under the Rear-View Mirror which turns off the Auto-Tint, so I don't see that as a negative. I actually quite like how the mirror tints. No matter how strong the lights are behind, it never makes you have to squint.



Got mine this afternoon, and so far I definitely agree with you about this.

In D it seems to change up much too early and then hangs on the high gears too long. The car feels heaps better in S or manual mode.

No other negatives so far - I'm just loving that I've finally got it after so long.
During my 3 month wait, I read every single review out there available on the net. I spent countless hours each night reading and watching YouTube clips to help me get through the wait. The ONLY negative I read online (and also from the Imported Evo magazine which I bought on a back-order), is the fact that with the DSG, it upshifts too quickly.

[silverbullet]

More hp out of the box. Should be at least 300hp.

[john2204]

Things disappearing in the door pockets!!!!!

[G-rig]

It's hard to find the perfect car or please everyone..



Auto-tint on the rear view mirror makes everything green and a little hard to see

As mentioned you can turn it off but i think the advantages outweigh it and you don't get headlights in your eyes at night.


Poor vision when reversing

The R comes with rev sensors standard but a camera helps you reverse in confidence especially at night.


Things disappear in the door pockets

How do they disappear? Just haven't noticed this but do you mean objects slide around in the door pocket?


Talladegas could be easier to clean, but manageable

I'd recommend a product like Final Inspection's power wheel cleaner (PWC), makes light work of cleaning complicated wheel styles and just spray it on.


Worst part is that I didn't get the Recaros!!

You could swap with Stephen :P

[ozmale]

These reviews are really good, but good god have you guys ever driven a Ford Edsel. It had every thing everybody wanted and was the biggest failure in automotive history.

On a separate quick note. you guys who have your "R"s. The fuel spec is for 95 octane (yes I know we will all use 98) but was wondering if the car adjusts for the higher octane. E.G. adjust timing etc thus slightly more power.

[Mr_Bob]

It's hard to find the perfect car or please everyone..

Yup, that's what Mods are for :)

nothing i've mentioned is bugging me, but could be tweaked to make the car perfect-er :)

Auto-tint is better than going blind, so i prefer it on. just need ot get used to it i think

sensors and mirrors are great, they make up for hte poor vision
I thought the RVC was a gimmick, but i'm considering retro-fitting now.

hard to describe how things go missing...
the top opening in the pocket stops at the armrest, but the cavity goes alot further back...
things slide backwards, and i can't get to it with my right arm cause my elbows don't bend backwards.
first time it happened i opened the door, and used my left arm to get it out.
2nd time I couldn't pull over, so i hit the brakes hard :D

I bought a narrow wheel brush when i went to reflect effect, i'm sure it'll be easy now.
they aren't very fiddly, but harder than something like detroits...

Hehehe, I'd like to hear Stephen's opinion on the last comment...

[Mr_Bob]

These reviews are really good, but good god have you guys ever driven a Ford Edsel. It had every thing everybody wanted and was the biggest failure in automotive history.

On a separate quick note. you guys who have your "R"s. The fuel spec is for 95 octane (yes I know we will all use 98) but was wondering if the car adjusts for the higher octane. E.G. adjust timing etc thus slightly more power.

It's 95?
99% sure my tank flap says 98...

[ozmale]

It's 95?
99% sure my tank flap says 98...

I was wondering about that. The price of shit 1 page brochure I got for the "R" make reference in the fuel consumption as using 95 octane.
Also the down-loadable 17 page PDF UK English brochure clearly states 95 octane. I can email anyone the UK brochure, they get a totally different options pack. I think ours is better.

[CJ9999]

On a separate quick note. you guys who have your "R"s. The fuel spec is for 95 octane (yes I know we will all use 98) but was wondering if the car adjusts for the higher octane. E.G. adjust timing etc thus slightly more power.

Although I read in the specs per the brochure that the R takes 95 octane, the car itself definitely has 98 Octane on the sticker under the fuel filler flap. The owners manual says that the fuel required is specified on the fuel filler flap.

So the R takes 98 octane and not 95.

[ozmale]

Although I read in the specs per the brochure that the R takes 95 octane, the car itself definitely has 98 Octane on the sticker under the fuel filler flap. The owners manual says that the fuel required is specified on the fuel filler flap.

So the R takes 98 octane and not 95.

CJ9999

Thanks for that. You would think they could get some consistency in their documentation.

[CJ9999]

CJ9999

Thanks for that. You would think they could get some consistency in their documentation.

Another inconsistency.

The warranty brochure says 3 years / 100,000km. But the sticker on the car window says 3 years / unlimited distance.

The dealer advised me that VWA has changed the warranty to unlimited distance for MY11 cars - but only some models and not others.

[_Just]

Another inconsistency.

The warranty brochure says 3 years / 100,000km. But the sticker on the car window says 3 years / unlimited distance.

The dealer advised me that VWA has changed the warranty to unlimited distance for MY11 cars - but only some models and not others.

I was definitely told by the dealer here in WA that it's 100,000 km warranty. I guess it doesn't affect me as much as I don't plan to have the R past 100,000 k's, so will see what happens over the next few years of driving. Looking forward to it!

I get so much enjoyment from getting home after work each day and wanting to go for a drive, now that I have the R.

[CJ9999]

I was definitely told by the dealer here in WA that it's 100,000 km warranty. I guess it doesn't affect me as much as I don't plan to have the R past 100,000 k's, so will see what happens over the next few years of driving. Looking forward to it!

I get so much enjoyment from getting home after work each day and wanting to go for a drive, now that I have the R.

The business manager at the dealer said 100,000 km and the warranty brochure says 100,000.

But the sales manager and the sticker on the car window say unlimited. Go figure.

[stephen8512]

The business manager at the dealer said 100,000 km and the warranty brochure says 100,000.

But the sales manager and the sticker on the car window say unlimited. Go figure.

sales manager said recaros didnt come with heated seats.

[Silvrfoxx]

Are these things being called out as negatives just nitpicking.. I mean what car doesnt have something you think could be sorted better..for those that have them are these in the minds eye every drive or just something on reflection..?

[ozmale]

They are not negatives. Just the usual thread going off on a tangent.

[peedman]

From the VWA website



Warranties.
Warranties.
Peace of mind
To give you peace of mind, all new model year 2011 Volkswagen Passenger and Commercial vehicles are protected by a 3 year unlimited kilometre factory warranty. This factory warranty covers you against manufacturing or material faults and includes a 3 year paintwork warranty. Your vehicle is also protected by a 12 year anti-corrosion perforation warranty for your complete reassurance. Your vehicle warranty cover commences from the first day the vehicle is registered or on the date its original owner first uses the vehicle.

To me it sounds like all MY11 cars!

[stephen8512]

Are these things being called out as negatives just nitpicking.. I mean what car doesnt have something you think could be sorted better..for those that have them are these in the minds eye every drive or just something on reflection..?

of course. every car has pros and cons.

I maintain though that the "cons" i listed were not being nitpicky, but just an observation. All in all it's still a fantastic car and I love it

[ASOD's]

Great, thanks for the posts guys, i guess the DSG upshift problem wont be of a concern for me because i only want a manual...the only way to drive...

[ozmale]

Great, thanks for the posts guys, i guess the DSG upshift problem wont be of a concern for me because i only want a manual...the only way to drive...

Dont we have a rule in this thread that we dont talk to FORD Focus drivers who buy Manual Golf "R"s :)

[stephen8512]

Great, thanks for the posts guys, i guess the DSG upshift problem wont be of a concern for me because i only want a manual...the only way to drive...

id still recommend trying both manual and DSG

[ASOD's]

Dont we have a rule in this thread that we dont talk to FORD Focus drivers who buy Manual Golf "R"s :)

HAHA, riiiiighto...i see ive unearthed some sensitive issues here, i apologise, lol, ill take that advise though, to try both gearboxes if they have them, i drive a manual now because i just find automatics a bit annoying and odd to drive...always feels like theres something wrong.

[silverbullet]

HAHA, riiiiighto...i see ive unearthed some sensitive issues here, i apologise, lol, ill take that advise though, to try both gearboxes if they have them, i drive a manual now because i just find automatics a bit annoying and odd to drive...always feels like theres something wrong.

Just another guy who hasn't really tried out the dsg box properly. It isn't an auto. Just frees up your hand to work on other things and your left foot to brake

[_Just]

Well I don't knock the DSG at all as it's a good bit of kit. But the only reason I would always buy a manual is simply to get a more engaging drive. I rarely drive in traffic (as it's non-existent here in Perth anyway), so I just like the ability to play with the clutch and the friction point.

[CJ9999]

The DSG is a manual AND an auto - all in one. You get to choose which you want.

There's no way a manual, however well driven, is going to rev match on the downshift as perfectly as the DSG does it every time.

[ozmale]

HAHA, riiiiighto...i see ive unearthed some sensitive issues here, i apologise, lol, ill take that advise though, to try both gearboxes if they have them, i drive a manual now because i just find automatics a bit annoying and odd to drive...always feels like theres something wrong.

Dont take me too seriously, I am a staunch manual driver but after I drove the DSG I just loved the new experience. Believe me I am getting a lot of stick from my mates over ordering the DSG. Your getting old ! do you need to wear nappies again ! do you need a prescription for viagra. etc

[Capercat]

Understeered as expected, but can be improved with bars, & turbo lag, that's what I concluded from a short drive.

I was fortunate to take a DCC 19" DSG equipped R for a long drive up the OPH. I found DCC on sport mode isn't aggressive enough in reducing understeer, I was hoping it was, but maybe my expectations were too high. Aftermarket coilovers + sway bars are mandatory on this car to keep it respectable. I found myself leaving it in sport mode just plotting around town coz the car felt soft & disconnected with very little feedback compared to my previous MKV GTI.
Performance mods are debatable subject to the intended use, but the DCC suspension was a disappointment, White James gave it the thumbs up, but even the gen VI Haldex didn't help much, so I'm concluding that the R's suspension is a firm negative IMO. Good news is, that it can be corrected by going aftermarket.

[Bizi]

I was fortunate to take a DCC 19" DSG equipped R for a long drive up the OPH. I found DCC on sport mode isn't aggressive enough in reducing understeer, I was hoping it was, but maybe my expectations were too high. Aftermarket coilovers + sway bars are mandatory on this car to keep it respectable. I found myself leaving it in sport mode just plotting around town coz the car felt soft & disconnected with very little feedback compared to my previous MKV GTI.
Performance mods are debatable subject to the intended use, but the DCC suspension was a disappointment, White James gave it the thumbs up, but even the gen VI Haldex didn't help much, so I'm concluding that the R's suspension is a firm negative IMO. Good news is, that it can be corrected by going aftermarket.

It's probably a fairer comparison of stock MkV GTI v MkV R32 v Golf R, since each could be modified (per your comments and many other people re. sway bars/suspension upgrades) but you're talking about fairly sporty driving on a challenging road, rather than the compromise that manufacturers choose for each market. :)

The next step might be these three cars with the sway bar tuning, then sways + coilovers.

I found whitejames' review very useful; if we could get him up north to WH and OPH, it could be useful for a lot of new Golf R owners.

Most useful would be for VW to have another driver training day for new owners - maybe with a car set up with coilovers/sways from Ian at Rennenhaus or Craig at BWA (or similar providers).

Otherwise some Golf R owners could find another owner with the mods and play swapsies. I've seen this work well this week with Pirellis, hey Shannon!


Removing the suspension issue for a moment:
Do owners think that the Golf R is too polished, too well insulated, not raw enough?

[Silvrfoxx]

Gawd I hope so.. I didnt want a WRX or a Forcus RS.. I wanted a Wolf in Sheeps clothing and thats what the R is..

[Capercat]

I think I made the mistake in thinking DCC works on the same principle as Delphi's MagneRide found in some Audi's, hence my expectations.
More info here...http://delphi.com/news/pressReleases/pressReleases_2006/pr_2006_11_30_001/
Be interested to know what DCC uses as its means to alter the dampers. I'm guessing its similar to Delphi's?

[Mr_Bob]

Are these things being called out as negatives just nitpicking.. I mean what car doesnt have something you think could be sorted better..for those that have them are these in the minds eye every drive or just something on reflection..?

My points are the closest thing i could find to a "flaw" but nothing that I consider as a negative.
I included them, as there are alot of threads talking about how perfect the car is, which to a potential buyer sounds a bit unrealistic/unbelievable.

[Capercat]

@ Mr Bob, the R's DCC suspension is a negative & beyond a flaw IMO. Let's keep to the topic.
Feel free to create a thread on how wonderful the R is.

[Jig]

I have driven the Golf R as a "test" drive and based on this, the 2 negatives I found so far was a) the turbo lag and b) the subtle exhaust note. I believe a) can be fixed to reduce the lag by aftermarket ECU tunes but the second, I dont think anything can fix it given its a 2.0L motor. I am only biased about the exhaust because I have been fortunate enough to own cars that have finer exhaust tones.

However as an everyday car and its entirety as a package, it wins in spades.

[silverbullet]

I think most guys are leaving out the DCC in the options list in favor of aftermarket suspension. Plus 19s won't be that great in the handling department so perhaps try an R with 18s and DCC.

[_Just]

I think most guys are leaving out the DCC in the options list in favor of aftermarket suspension. Plus 19s won't be that great in the handling department so perhaps try an R with 18s and DCC.

I left out the DCC and have 19s. I don't drive the R on the track or anything and have not noticed any issues with the ride quality. I have been driving a Mini Cooper S on 17s previously, which felt much stiffer and bumpier than the current R on 19s.

I took a sweeping bend very quickly yesterday entering the freeway and was surprised at how well it gripped with minimal body roll. It managed to power through the bend and out far quicker than the Cooper S could've.

[silverbullet]

Awd baby!

[Silvrfoxx]

Awd baby!+1...AWD FTW

[Prodigy]

I left out the DCC and have 19s. I don't drive the R on the track or anything and have not noticed any issues with the ride quality. I have been driving a Mini Cooper S on 17s previously, which felt much stiffer and bumpier than the current R on 19s.

I took a sweeping bend very quickly yesterday entering the freeway and was surprised at how well it gripped with minimal body roll. It managed to power through the bend and out far quicker than the Cooper S could've.

+1 on this one, all throughout the wait process for my R i regretted not getting ACC, now i have the car i can say i had nothing to worry about as the standard ride quality is fantastic imo.

One slight negative which i'm sure has been mentioned already is the slight lag issue, however i've found a quick press of the left gearshift paddle soon gets rid of that..>D

[Capercat]

+1 on this one, all throughout the wait process for my R i regretted not getting ACC, now i have the car i can say i had nothing to worry about as the standard ride quality is fantastic imo.

One slight negative which i'm sure has been mentioned already is the slight lag issue, however i've found a quick press of the left gearshift paddle soon gets rid of that..>D

Also if you decided in the future to upgrade your suspension you wont feel guilty haven spent $1300 on DCC.

[stephen8512]

Also if you decided in the future to upgrade your suspension you wont feel guilty haven spent $1300 on DCC.

which is why i didnt opt for this as im upgrading my suspension anyway. however, KW has released their suspension where u can install the V3's i think and which can also "trick" the ecu to think it still has DCC so some warning light or something wont appear on the dash? or something like that. its basically a plug for where the DCC would be if the OEM suspension was still on.

[CJ9999]

The 2 hardest decisions when ordering my R were which colour and whether to get DCC (decided not to).

Now I've got the car, I'm really happy with the colour but the jury is still out on the suspension - I haven't done nearly enough KM yet.

[stephen8512]

Chris, dont worry. we should meet up one time and go for a small blast around some twisties....im sure you wont need DCC, but you will notice the understeer when pushing the car.

run it in a bit more first. drive the damn thing! hahaha u waited this long and not even 500kms yet!

[Bill]

I'm finding the lag dramatically increases when engine is hot, like after long traffic delays or I've pushed in sport for awhile and then gone back to standard. I've read that heat does effect the Turbo. My question may have already been answered. Comment from the group would be appreciated.

[_Just]

+1 on this one, all throughout the wait process for my R i regretted not getting ACC, now i have the car i can say i had nothing to worry about as the standard ride quality is fantastic imo.

One slight negative which i'm sure has been mentioned already is the slight lag issue, however i've found a quick press of the left gearshift paddle soon gets rid of that..>D

Am pretty sure I just went past your car on Brisbane Street mate! It was parked on the left?

I went past in an Audi A6.

[Prodigy]

Am pretty sure I just went past your car on Brisbane Street mate! It was parked on the left?

I went past in an Audi A6.

Wasn't me mate, i was out and about earlier today but not on Brisbane Street. Didn't catch a glimpse of the plates by any chance?

[_Just]

Wasn't me mate, i was out and about earlier today but not on Brisbane Street. Didn't catch a glimpse of the plates by any chance?

Yeah, it had the Euro WA plates, which is why I assumed it was yours. Looked identical to yours.

[Prodigy]

Yeah, it had the Euro WA plates, which is why I assumed it was yours. Looked identical to yours.

I was parked on Railway Parade around that time today but definitely not Brisbane Street. I'm still yet to see another R on the road apart from a quick glimpse of one way back when they were just released.

[benough]

My points are the closest thing i could find to a "flaw" but nothing that I consider as a negative.
I included them, as there are alot of threads talking about how perfect the car is, which to a potential buyer sounds a bit unrealistic/unbelievable.

So when are you putting in the Diesel Geek short shifter Ben?

[Mr_Bob]

Got a few things planned, Short shifter, rims and coilovers are high priorities.
but i promised that house renovations would be done before too much money went on mods
Silly me!

[gordon]

I was definitely told by the dealer here in WA that it's 100,000 km warranty. I guess it doesn't affect me as much as I don't plan to have the R past 100,000 k's, so will see what happens over the next few years of driving. Looking forward to it!

I get so much enjoyment from getting home after work each day and wanting to go for a drive, now that I have the R.

I was told unlimited when I picked up my car last week in Perth.

[Big Yellow]

all new vw's come with 3 year unlimited k warranty now :)

[silverbullet]

I'd rather a five yr limited km warranty

[stephen8512]

anyone else reckon that the Golf R has a crap turning circle?

[Big Yellow]

might be the 19s???

[AP]

anyone else reckon that the Golf R has a crap turning circle?
Yeah it's that could compared to my R32..
The lag is frustrating, So I fixed it with a stage 1 HPA tune.. Now it has some balls.. Stephen if you want to feel the difference let me know..

[_Just]

anyone else reckon that the Golf R has a crap turning circle?
Well it's definitely crapper than on the Cooper S. Am still trying to get used to it. I am the type of person who'd Reverse Park everywhere, and going from the Mini to the Golf, I've had to adjust lots!

[stephen8512]

Yeah it's that could compared to my R32..
The lag is frustrating, So I fixed it with a stage 1 HPA tune.. Now it has some balls.. Stephen if you want to feel the difference let me know..

cheers AP. i'll have to experience stage 1 HPA one day in your golf R. Agreed...lag is annoying but stage 1 tune seems to get rid of it. well, thats the testimony from those who got an APR stage 1 tune anyway. Its prob the same for the HPA stage 1.

have you got the DSG worked as well? or is that still stock standard?

[GP-GT]

anyone else reckon that the Golf R has a crap turning circle?

My dealer mentioned this to me when i picked my car up and said to expect it. Something about providing shorter / more responsive steering.

Certainly much shorter than my wife's 118Tsi.

[G-rig]

The turning circle seems fine on the GTI (not sure if they are the same or not).

[Silvrfoxx]

I had heard this but thought it was related to the AWD setup of the R

[CJ9999]

Last week I noticed a deep groove in one front brake disc on my R (only done 800km).

Took it to the dealer this morning and they said the disc may need to be replaced under warranty, but they need to get a decision from VWA and VWA is shut this week.

The dealer didn't know what would cause such a groove.

Pictures below.

Has anyone else had a similar issue with a Golf?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_horSdEkScO0/TRp26Oz7fBI/AAAAAAAAAG4/S9odgQjIHvA/s1024/IMG_0332.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_horSdEkScO0/TRp27Lb2GWI/AAAAAAAAAG8/WTP7YN6v3BU/s1024/IMG_0333.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_horSdEkScO0/TRp274h2EBI/AAAAAAAAAHA/YjFCV4BNaaY/s1024/IMG_0334.JPG

[ozmale]

I am going to stick my neck out again. There is already a thread on the Mk5 heading about brake pads.

this groove is caused by the type of pad used in European vehicles because the are not permitted any asbestos at all in there pads. So they use a treated substitute, the problem is, during the manufacture and also the bed in certain parts of the pad become hard as diamonds. Thus grind away the rotor. They also as you guy know create clouds of corrosive dust.

If you only drive your car on the street and want a pad that gives NO dust and will not wear away your rotors (in fact your rotors will never need skimming) then go and get a set of bendix General CT's (GTC's). They cost about $30 and stop the car just as well as the OEM pads.

The only problem is they only last about 20,000k, and
You will not be able to brag about how much your $200 pads cost that are destroying your mags.

I have always had turbo charged cars right up to my most recent WRX STI. I have always fitted GTC's, car have always stopped perfectly and wheels never needed any more than mild soap and water.

In Australia brake pads are allowed a small amount of asbestos (its mentioned on the top of the box) and this seems to make all the difference.

This post will start a huge controversy. But go and buy a set of $30 GTC's you will never look back.

P.S. track work is a different matter.

Chris

[gordon]

Going out to check mine right now!

[Bill]

anyone else reckon that the Golf R has a crap turning circle?

Bad, I'm told it has to do with the 4WD...
other thing i am having to get use to is the reversing light, its about 2amps and on the wrong side.... i know its a european thang being on the left, but the bulb should be brighter. If the only thing we have to complain about is the turning circle and reversing bulb, i'm ok with that...

[_Just]

Bad, I'm told it has to do with the 4WD...
other thing i am having to get use to is the reversing light, its about 2amps and on the wrong side.... i know its a european thang being on the left, but the bulb should be brighter. If the only thing we have to complain about is the turning circle and reversing bulb, i'm ok with that...

Yeah, the one aesthetic thing I didn't like about the Golf is the fact that it has one Reverse light rather than two. I would've preferred one on the right also, but once receiving it, I noticed that on the Golf R, it is only really quite small, so I didn't mind it too much. The less noticable for me, the better. Haha.

[stephen8512]

Yeah, the one aesthetic thing I didn't like about the Golf is the fact that it has one Reverse light rather than two. I would've preferred one on the right also, but once receiving it, I noticed that on the Golf R, it is only really quite small, so I didn't mind it too much. The less noticable for me, the better. Haha.

on the MK5s you can make it so that both lights turn on when you put it in reverse. Prob be the same case for the MK6

anyone else find that along with the turning circle, the steering is pretty heavy? its heavier than my jetta thats for sure...but this may be due to the 19's again as on the jetta i had 17's

[CJ9999]

anyone else find that along with the turning circle, the steering is pretty heavy? its heavier than my jetta thats for sure...but this may be due to the 19's again as on the jetta i had 17's

Agree with the comment about turning circle - My R definitely has a larger turning circle than the Mk 5.

Don't find the steering heavy at all with 18's

[_Just]

on the MK5s you can make it so that both lights turn on when you put it in reverse. Prob be the same case for the MK6

anyone else find that along with the turning circle, the steering is pretty heavy? its heavier than my jetta thats for sure...but this may be due to the 19's again as on the jetta i had 17's
Omigod. Is that true?!

Would anyone else know if this is possible? Would be awesome if there was a Reverse light on each side!

On the other note, I don't find the steering heavy at all. It's actually lighter than the Cooper S was.

[richie32]

yeh when i test drove the R, i felt the steering was really light compared to my r32..

another question
is there no point getting the ACC if u plan to put coilovers on ur R?

[AP]

another question
is there no point getting the ACC if u plan to put coilovers on ur R?

Not really...

[stephen8512]

yeh when i test drove the R, i felt the steering was really light compared to my r32..

another question
is there no point getting the ACC if u plan to put coilovers on ur R?


Not really...

x2

hence why me and AP didnt get it as the plan was to upgrade suspension anyway. Why pay for something when ur gonna take it out later on anyway?

[richie32]

yeh thats what i thought, im not sure what the ACC option costs, but u could prob get some coilovers for that price, so i wouldn't bother getting ACC, plus standard height is unacceptable lol

[gordon]

I guess another negative is that i saw two other mark 6 blue R's while turning off the freeway in Perth today within 2 minutes of each other... Happy to see them... but....

[stephen8512]

i find the lack of mute button on the steering wheel can get annoying. Presssing the PHONE button on the RNS-510 mutes it and since my car doesnt have bluetooth, the PHONE button on my steering wheel should have the same function....

[Silvrfoxx]

Can you program it..?

[stephen8512]

Can you program it..?

unsure...I doubt it? may ask the dealers when I go in for a service which isnt due for a while, but in the meantime, perhaps someone with VAGCOM?

[Silvrfoxx]

Have a trawl through here

http://tinyurl.com/29uzarv

[zz2]

I guess another negative is that i saw two other mark 6 blue R's while turning off the freeway in Perth today within 2 minutes of each other... Happy to see them... but....

thats why i ordered the candy white. all the ones i have seen are blue or silver

[_Just]

i find the lack of mute button on the steering wheel can get annoying. Presssing the PHONE button on the RNS-510 mutes it and since my car doesnt have bluetooth, the PHONE button on my steering wheel should have the same function....
When I press my PHONE button, mine is muted. I didn't think I had Bluetooth either however?

I find it really handy to be able to mute it from the steering wheel.

[random]

There are plenty of positives but there are also some negatives.

In my opinion it all depends on if you have owned a mk5 gti or r32...

The negatives for me is the engine, yes it is a very good engine, but at the end of the day it is still just the same (or very similar) engine to the other models but with an AWD instead of FWD. Which is also part of the positive (AWD). I would prefer a 2.5l engine with turbo, to really differentiate the R from the Gti instead of just the AWD, which IMO is the only difference.

Some say the understatement of the R is a good thing, but i feel the lack of differentiation on the R as a negative. To enthusiasts of course we can tell the difference, but to most the whole golf range look very similar.

For me the interior is slightly boring, all black... the functionality of it all is good (apart from the positioning of the window switches), but when you are inside of the car, and when everything is black it feels strange and out dated. When you compare the R with the S3 in terms of interior, the S3 wins hands down (but it is also 20k more expensive).

BUT really overall the car is a good package, i would definitely get one if i didn't already have a golf, as it is priced very well (70k for a fully optioned golf R is quite good).

PS like most have said the wait is probably the biggest negative... BUT most good cars have a long wait in Australia.

[stephen8512]

When I press my PHONE button, mine is muted. I didn't think I had Bluetooth either however?

I find it really handy to be able to mute it from the steering wheel.

wait, so you can mute it but you DONT have the factory bluetooth installed?

[_Just]

wait, so you can mute it but you DONT have the factory bluetooth installed?
Correct. I don't believe I have Bluetooth (as I had never requested for it as part of an option(?), and yes, I can press a button on the steering wheel which mutes the stereo.

[stephen8512]

hmmm...i might get that checked out then....it may be possible to get it to work via vagcom then...

[john2204]

I dont have bluetooth and the phone button does not mute. Annoying!

[stephen8512]

I dont have bluetooth and the phone button does not mute. Annoying!

same here.. but apparently justins one does?

[Prodigy]

When I press my PHONE button, mine is muted. I didn't think I had Bluetooth either however?



I dont have bluetooth and the phone button does not mute. Annoying!


same here.. but apparently justins one does?

I can also mute the stereo from my steering wheel and i don't have bluetooth. However mine only works when pressing the microphone button not the phone button.

[_Just]

I can also mute the stereo from my steering wheel and i don't have bluetooth. However mine only works when pressing the microphone button not the phone button.

Yeah. What he said. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif

I'm actually not sure which button I press, but I know one of them definitely works as a mute.

[ozmale]

The ability to mute the radio/stereo from the steering wheel would be a pretty common sence feature. Would be good so know what button etc.

Chris

[Tinto]

Steering assist/ weight should be a Vcds setting change.

I have the cable if any Perth guys want to borrow/ have a dig in their car at their own risk :)
BYO laptop (I have a netbook but it is a tiny pita), buy me a pint.
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/Micro-CAN.html

[stephen8512]

Yeah. What he said. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif

I'm actually not sure which button I press, but I know one of them definitely works as a mute.

can you check justin? the microphone button really isnt a mute because thats voice control.

im talking about the button which is in the middle of the < and > button on the left side (it should look like a phone). as per this photo

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/stephen8512/Paddles3.jpg

the "PHONE" button on the actual RNS-510 unit mutes the music.....but I want the phone button on the steering wheel to mute as well

[_Just]

I'm pretty sure my Microphone button mutes it, rather than the Phone button mate.

[elisiX]

The microphone button DOES mute - after the little tone.

However the phone handset button does not. On the unit it works however.

Seems silly to me that the botton wont work. I need to get the bluetooth upgrade retro fitted.

[Silvrfoxx]

I don't care, I got a piccie of the dash for free.. :)

[nath_mk6]

The microphone button DOES mute - after the little tone.

However the phone handset button does not. On the unit it works however.

Seems silly to me that the botton wont work. I need to get the bluetooth upgrade retro fitted.

I just spent the morning removing the BT I installed a month ago ready for the new car. Have to say the new 9w7 BT is awesome sound is great and it integrates well with the RNS was about to code the mfd but didn't bother and it would've been complete. Picked it up on eBay and installed myself, parts are annoying but not impossible.

[stephen8512]

I'm pretty sure my Microphone button mutes it, rather than the Phone button mate.

yeah it does after a little tone as what jay said. but that button was meant for voice control (i.e telling the unit to switch to radio, navigation, etc). If you dont say anything it will say "pardon?" twice before saying all this crap about "to learn about how to bla bla bla bla" then it shuts it off and resumes the music

point : it doesnt mute the music indefinately. On the MK5's there was a little star button on the steering wheel (the same one as to what is next to the EJECT button on the RNS unit) and this would mute it.


The microphone button DOES mute - after the little tone.

However the phone handset button does not. On the unit it works however.

Seems silly to me that the botton wont work. I need to get the bluetooth upgrade retro fitted.

so to get the phone button to mute, you'd need bluetooth? i thought that button was there to answer calls? i.e when a call comes through, you press that on the wheel and it answers it for you provided you have bluetooth on?

[nath_mk6]

Actually with BT it automatically mutes and the ringing sound comes in then you answer with either the button on the wheel or rns

[_Just]

On another note, I ask in an earlier post about the PDC and it's ability to select Low, Medium and High, and figured it had something to do with the sensitivity of the beeps.

I've since worked out that it's to do with the Audio muting. So if you have music playing and you throw it into reverse to reverse park, it will only very slightly turn the music down so that the beeps are still heard over the music. Medium would make the music even quieter and the beeps seem louder, and High would mute the music totally so you only hear the beeps.

Just thought I'd add that in case anyone was interested.

[zz2]

NEGATIVE; mine is not here farkin

[_Just]

I managed to get the copy of the article in last Saturday's West Australian which compared the STI, Focus RS and Golf R.

Had quite a few mates stir me up after reading the article themselves, so thought I'd actually type out the column (by Jez Spinks) relating to the Golf R, in case anyone else was interested.








Compared with the outgoing Golf R32 V6, the R loses two cylinders and 1.2 litres of cubic capacity, but a turbocharger helps to ensure power doesn't go backwards - in fact, it gains 4kW. It's also untouchable in the bowser battle as the only model to sip well below the double figures (8.4L/100km) - a highly commendable 21% improvement over the R32.

The lowest engine outputs in this group, though, are borne out against the stopwatch with the 2.0-litre R's 0-100km/h time of 7.0sec, trailing nearly a second behind the rival pair. The single-suspension tune delivers the supplest ride here. And while there's an inevitable trade-off at the track, where the R feels noticeably softer than it's rivals, the Golf is far from out of its league.

It's just a case of the R's dynamics being capable of reaching the finals, rather than being a genuine contender for the minor premiership. It's the first to wilt under the pressure of a flat-out track attack and the first to push wide (understeer) in corners when toying with these cars' limits. The R has enough steering precision and throttle adjustability to keep most drivers interested, though.

It's a similar story on the road, even if a bones is that while the steering lacks feel there is none of the STI's nasty kickback or the RS's mild torque steer. In styling, the Golf's R could stand for "restraint" such is it's conservative design - never more evident than when sat next to it's menacing rivals. Picking the R from other Golfs is made easier by the use of black for the grille, air intake, brake callipers and side mirrors.

There are also dark-tinted rear side windows, different alloy wheel and LED daytime running lights and tail-lights. There's a heavy black theme inside, which gives the impression the Golf R is in mourning, though it's the VW's cabin that leaves rivals lamenting their lack of comparable quality.

The Verdict

The RS, R and STi offer copious features that help to vindicate price tags up to three times more expensive than the entry-level Focus, Golf and Impreza.

VW's hot hatch is the most affordable, even if you need to pay extra for adaptive dampers and Bluetooth / iPod connectivity. Logic dictates that the Golf R should win this test. It's the halo variant of a vehicle that already sets the benchmark for small-car refinement and it's sufficiently sporty for most drivers.

However, that combination is enough to give the Volkswagen second place in this comparison, as the winner is a car that gives buyers venturing into this territory a special level of performance and handling. The mark of a great drivers' car is that its owner won't be able to resist taking it for a run on a Sunday morning. All three contenders will get their owners out of bed, but it's the Focus RS that will encourage enthusiasts to set the alarm clock earlier.

Don't be surprised when, in future, it's the Ford Focus RS that's revered.

[Prodigy]

The lowest engine outputs in this group, though, are borne out against the stopwatch with the 2.0-litre R's 0-100km/h time of 7.0sec, trailing nearly a second behind the rival pair.



0 - 100 km/h in 7 secs!!! Either that's a typo or some old grandma was driving, that's the worst time I've ever seen published for the R.

[Silvrfoxx]

Journo's keeping the Troll alive.. You have to wonder some times why there is a bias one way or the other.. but overwhelmingly the R takes the prize with that wonderful Jeckle and Hyde personality which can match your mood when it takes you...

[zz2]

I managed to get the copy of the article in last Saturday's West Australian which compared the STI, Focus RS and Golf R.

Had quite a few mates stir me up after reading the article themselves, so thought I'd actually type out the column (by Jez Spinks) relating to the Golf R, in case anyone else was interested.








Compared with the outgoing Golf R32 V6, the R loses two cylinders and 1.2 litres of cubic capacity, but a turbocharger helps to ensure power doesn't go backwards - in fact, it gains 4kW. It's also untouchable in the bowser battle as the only model to sip well below the double figures (8.4L/100km) - a highly commendable 21% improvement over the R32.

The lowest engine outputs in this group, though, are borne out against the stopwatch with the 2.0-litre R's 0-100km/h time of 7.0sec, trailing nearly a second behind the rival pair. The single-suspension tune delivers the supplest ride here. And while there's an inevitable trade-off at the track, where the R feels noticeably softer than it's rivals, the Golf is far from out of its league.

It's just a case of the R's dynamics being capable of reaching the finals, rather than being a genuine contender for the minor premiership. It's the first to wilt under the pressure of a flat-out track attack and the first to push wide (understeer) in corners when toying with these cars' limits. The R has enough steering precision and throttle adjustability to keep most drivers interested, though.

It's a similar story on the road, even if a bones is that while the steering lacks feel there is none of the STI's nasty kickback or the RS's mild torque steer. In styling, the Golf's R could stand for "restraint" such is it's conservative design - never more evident than when sat next to it's menacing rivals. Picking the R from other Golfs is made easier by the use of black for the grille, air intake, brake callipers and side mirrors.

There are also dark-tinted rear side windows, different alloy wheel and LED daytime running lights and tail-lights. There's a heavy black theme inside, which gives the impression the Golf R is in mourning, though it's the VW's cabin that leaves rivals lamenting their lack of comparable quality.

The Verdict

The RS, R and STi offer copious features that help to vindicate price tags up to three times more expensive than the entry-level Focus, Golf and Impreza.

VW's hot hatch is the most affordable, even if you need to pay extra for adaptive dampers and Bluetooth / iPod connectivity. Logic dictates that the Golf R should win this test. It's the halo variant of a vehicle that already sets the benchmark for small-car refinement and it's sufficiently sporty for most drivers.

However, that combination is enough to give the Volkswagen second place in this comparison, as the winner is a car that gives buyers venturing into this territory a special level of performance and handling. The mark of a great drivers' car is that its owner won't be able to resist taking it for a run on a Sunday morning. All three contenders will get their owners out of bed, but it's the Focus RS that will encourage enthusiasts to set the alarm clock earlier.

Don't be surprised when, in future, it's the Ford Focus RS that's revered.



theres your first problem... you're reading the west australian. i wouldnt beleive that newspaper if it told me today was Monday.

their motoring journos are just as much as a joke as their other journos. that stephen williams wouldnt know his ass from his elbow let alone anything car related

[Riley]

theres your first problem... you're reading the west australian. i wouldnt beleive that newspaper if it told me today was Monday.

their motoring journos are just as much as a joke as their other journos. that stephen williams wouldnt know his ass from his elbow let alone anything car related

Here Here!

People still buy that damn paper? "They get kickbacks on their kickbacks"

[_Just]

0 - 100 km/h in 7 secs!!! Either that's a typo or some old grandma was driving, that's the worst time I've ever seen published for the R.


Journo's keeping the Troll alive.. You have to wonder some times why there is a bias one way or the other.. but overwhelmingly the R takes the prize with that wonderful Jeckle and Hyde personality which can match your mood when it takes you...


theres your first problem... you're reading the west australian. i wouldnt beleive that newspaper if it told me today was Monday.

their motoring journos are just as much as a joke as their other journos. that stephen williams wouldnt know his ass from his elbow let alone anything car related


Here Here!

People still buy that damn paper? "They get kickbacks on their kickbacks"
I only made a point to get a copy of it after a few mates had a giggle about it's ability, especially after spending so much coin. I was quite shocked reading it, and wondered if the journo actually even took one for a spin?

[ozmale]

I have had my car for 48hours the biggest negative is (now wait for it):-

There is no lighted ignition surround, to find where to put the key in the dark. I cannot believe in the 21st century this is not on every car. My starlet had it in 1992.

Chris

[Silvrfoxx]

I have had my car for 48hours the biggest negative is (now wait for it):-

There is no lighted ignition surround, to find where to put the key in the dark. I cannot believe in the 21st century this is not on every car. My starlet had it in 1992.

Chris

It will be a problem for a week.. then you will know it better than your fly :)

[stephen8512]

ECS Tuning

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VI--2.0T/Interior/Steering_Column/ES2072575/

However, I dont really need one as it becomes second nature where you dont even have to look at the keyhole...thats personally speaking
Just keep driving it and the problem will go away >D

[shakespeare]

Here Here!

People still buy that damn paper? "They get kickbacks on their kickbacks"

Their motoring writer is terrible too, get's so many facts incorrect!


It will be a problem for a week.. then you will know it better than your fly :)

Maybe as good a your fly :p took me about a week too, haven't missed it yet!

[zz2]

There is no lighted ignition surround, to find where to put the key in the dark.

<insert sex joke here> :cool:

[_Just]

ECS Tuning

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VI--2.0T/Interior/Steering_Column/ES2072575/

However, I dont really need one as it becomes second nature where you dont even have to look at the keyhole...thats personally speaking
Just keep driving it and the problem will go away >D
Looks good, but $100 is a little steep. I also think it should've been a standard feature as I like little details like that.

I would've also liked puddle lights under the doors when you open them, but hey .. I'm not one to complain as it puts a smile on my face on every trip.

[Riley]

Noticed the lack of lit ignition myself last night.

The fact that it also needs to be refueled every now and again is a bummer too. <Insert sex joke here> :p

[Bill]

having had time to appreciate and critically review my R the only thing i can fault is the 'reversing light'. its on the wrong side of the car and barely bright enough to make any difference to the visibility.

[ozmale]

having had time to appreciate and critically review my R the only thing i can fault is the 'reversing light'. its on the wrong side of the car and barely bright enough to make any difference to the visibility.

There is a mod for that (reversing light) somewhere on one of the forums. Wish I could find it again. would do the mod.

[CJ9999]

Good news on the brake issue.

VWA inspected my car today. They are going to replace the fronts discs and pads free of charge "as a goodwill gesture".

The cause of the groove in the brake disc is as posted by ozmale (post #76), variations in hardness in the pads.

There are now also some smaller grooves towards the outside of both the left and right discs.


Last week I noticed a deep groove in one front brake disc on my R (only done 800km).

Took it to the dealer this morning and they said the disc may need to be replaced under warranty, but they need to get a decision from VWA and VWA is shut this week.

The dealer didn't know what would cause such a groove.

Pictures below.

Has anyone else had a similar issue with a Golf?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_horSdEkScO0/TRp26Oz7fBI/AAAAAAAAAG4/S9odgQjIHvA/s1024/IMG_0332.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_horSdEkScO0/TRp27Lb2GWI/AAAAAAAAAG8/WTP7YN6v3BU/s1024/IMG_0333.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_horSdEkScO0/TRp274h2EBI/AAAAAAAAAHA/YjFCV4BNaaY/s1024/IMG_0334.JPG

[Bill]

There is a mod for that (reversing light) somewhere on one of the forums. Wish I could find it again. would do the mod.

let me know if you find it... really is bad, its yellow and dull..... I really dont think it would pass RW. have you done the badges yet. If so how do you change the rear badge?

[ozmale]

let me know if you find it... really is bad, its yellow and dull..... I really dont think it would pass RW. have you done the badges yet. If so how do you change the rear badge?

I have done the from badge. here is my DIY
DIY-Replace-the-Front-VW-emblem-of-Mk-6-Golf-R (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?3085-DIY-Replace-the-Front-VW-emblem-of-Mk-6-Golf-R)

I cant find a black rear one.
I found this for fixing the reversing light but its not the one I remember.

twin-reverse-light-no-red-fog-diy (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f15/twin-reverse-light-no-red-fog-diy-34312.html)

[Bill]

I have done the from badge. here is my DIY
DIY-Replace-the-Front-VW-emblem-of-Mk-6-Golf-R (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?3085-DIY-Replace-the-Front-VW-emblem-of-Mk-6-Golf-R)

I cant find a black rear one.
I found this for fixing the reversing light but its not the one I remember.

twin-reverse-light-no-red-fog-diy (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f15/twin-reverse-light-no-red-fog-diy-34312.html)

I don't like the chrome badges on the black, am toying with idea of rising blue on the front and back badges and brake callipers. what do you think of the color? tahanks for the rear light link...

[ozmale]

Bill,

Colour is a very individual thing.

I am a bit of a freak where as I dont like anything that is chrome. My car is white and stuff is black thats it, no other colours. I even removed the chrome "R" badge in the front grill.
If you car is rising blue then a rising blue "VW" emblem may look a bit out of place in a black grill. But if the grill is also Blue then that might be a different matter.

I have, in the past been a fan of "Red" calipers, but now having black one, I prefer them.

Chris

[benough]

I would've also liked puddle lights under the doors when you open them, but hey .. I'm not one to complain as it puts a smile on my face on every trip.

I retro fitted puddle lights with genuine parts from ECS for about $60USD. Took about 1 hour to put in. It's tops.

Have a look on www.my-gti.com

[Bill]

Bill,

Colour is a very individual thing.

I am a bit of a freak where as I dont like anything that is chrome. My car is white and stuff is black thats it, no other colours. I even removed the chrome "R" badge in the front grill.
If you car is rising blue then a rising blue "VW" emblem may look a bit out of place in a black grill. But if the grill is also Blue then that might be a different matter.

I have, in the past been a fan of "Red" calipers, but now having black one, I prefer them.

Chris

i'm with you regarding the chrome, don't like it. but changing to black emblem on a black car with black wheels and black interior is too much black, if thats possible. I like the look of yellow callipers with yellow emblems. Thank god for Photoshop, won't have to second guess the look.

[ozmale]

Actually I think Black Black black looks really mean. I have had black car most of my life, just changing to white with the golf.

My Starlet GT is black and I had yellow brakes, it looked great, turned heads.

Chris

[CJ9999]

this groove is caused by the type of pad used in European vehicles because the are not permitted any asbestos at all in there pads. So they use a treated substitute, the problem is, during the manufacture and also the bed in certain parts of the pad become hard as diamonds. Thus grind away the rotor. They also as you guy know create clouds of corrosive dust.


Chris,

You were spot on. VW told me that the groove in the disc is from hard spots in the pads during bedding in. They are going to replace the front discs.

[ozmale]

Chris,

You were spot on. VW told me that the groove in the disc is from hard spots in the pads during bedding in. They are going to replace the front discs.

Thanks for that. At my age and my past I have gained a lot of experience. Its good to be able to pass it on.

It is so frustrating though, the europiens make great brakes for cars but the worst brake pads. THey really need to get past this Diamond hard pad theory. We can stop a 400 ton train and a 125 ton jumbo jet with soft efective pads that dont wear out the discs, so why cant they do it on a car.

Chris

[Bill]

Actually I think Black Black black looks really mean. I have had black car most of my life, just changing to white with the golf.

My Starlet GT is black and I had yellow brakes, it looked great, turned heads.

Chris

a supporter of yellow, did you have any other part of car in yellow? yellow brake callipers would need an accent, something else on the car, yellow.

[ozmale]

a supporter of yellow, did you have any other part of car in yellow? yellow brake callipers would need an accent, something else on the car, yellow.

Actually there is. On the 2 door starlet GT there is a thick sticker badge on the lower section of the doors that says "GT Turbo". I had yellow stickers made up that fit over the existing ones, looked great. I would post a photo for you but don't have one on this PC and I am currently on the goad coast.

Chris

[manol]

In this thread: People complaining about petty things on their $60k+ car. #firstworldproblems

[Silvrfoxx]

In this thread: People complaining about petty things on their $60k+ car. #firstworldproblems

I think you have missed the point.. all the folk here are not complaining they are hilighting imperfections.. the R overall is an amazing and highly awarded unit. Rather than having onther thread stating the obvious about how good the Golf R is this thread is teasing out the foibles.. the take away is there are very few and minor issues.

[Riley]

Obviously these comments are not "complaints" about the car, but just improvements some individuals would make if they had the talent. You know like removing some unsightly stickers on an otherwise perfect car.

[stephen8512]

In this thread: People complaining about petty things on their $60k+ car. #firstworldproblems

its BECAUSE its 60K+ that these petty things are amplified, dont you think? One would argue that these so called petty problems shouldnt really be there?

For e.g, that light ring around the ignition key slot....for a 60K+ car, wouldnt you expect it to have one? Remember, this is a Golf R where there is no "less is more' philosophy like, say for e.g a lambo superleggera (less parts, more expensive car altogether) or a GT3 RS or something as the focus was never on speed or lightness or what have you. Theyre just little things that one would expect to find in a 60K+ car expecially since you can find them standard on just about every other normal every day cars

[Tim]

its BECAUSE its 60K+ that these petty things are amplified, dont you think? One would argue that these so called petty problems shouldnt really be there?

For e.g, that light ring around the ignition key slot....for a 60K+ car, wouldnt you expect it to have one? Remember, this is a Golf R where there is no "less is more' philosophy like, say for e.g a lambo superleggera (less parts, more expensive car altogether) or a GT3 RS or something as the focus was never on speed or lightness or what have you. Theyre just little things that one would expect to find in a 60K+ car expecially since you can find them standard on just about every other normal every day cars

They dont put a light ring because you dont need one. When u unlock the car the interior light comes on and you get plenty of time to put the key in before it goes off.
At the end of the day its still a car that has its roots in a 25k shopping trolley. Purchasing top of the range doesnt buy into the prestige segment. Its still a variant of said shopping trolley

[stephen8512]

They dont put a light ring because you dont need one. When u unlock the car the interior light comes on and you get plenty of time to put the key in before it goes off.
At the end of the day its still a car that has its roots in a 25k shopping trolley. Purchasing top of the range doesnt buy into the prestige segment. Its still a variant of said shopping trolley

Not putting a light ring on because you dont need one as the lights stay on long enough or whatever was not the point of what I was trying to saying mate. Read what I wrote. That light ring was just one example I used.

Okay, compare a Golf and another 25K car. Say, the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Using that light ring example, if I had a standard golf and I have had older cars which had that light ring, and the mitsubishi has one as well, but the golf doesnt, wouldnt you think "hmmm I wonder why they dont have it there when its pretty standard on every other car in the same range"? Sure, its a small thing and not every car is built the same way but things like cupholders, and the like are all standard basic equipment which consumers take for granted when purchasing a car. Imagine an everyday brand new car without any cupholders or little compartments apart from the glovebox. It's expected to be there, and when it isnt, it comes as somewhat of a surprise

The point of my post was that because the amount paid for the R is quite a bit of money, these little things are AMPLIFIED somewhat due to the amount spent on buying one. THats why it can be seen as "nitpicking" and to people like manol, just a bunch of guys bitching about the little things. Sometimes, its the little things that count. I was trying to make a point and make him see that because the amount spent to buy this car is a considerable amount, those little things stand out just that little bit more...

Its got nothing to do with buying a 60K car and expecting prestige or anything.

[Tim]

cupholders are only found in cars because the americans demand them. The germans still havent been able to get that one right.. :D
Whilst the designs are sometimes quite cool. Theyre generally less than functional.

[Bill]

Not putting a light ring on because you dont need one as the lights stay on long enough or whatever was not the point of what I was trying to saying mate. Read what I wrote. That light ring was just one example I used.

Okay, compare a Golf and another 25K car. Say, the new Mitsubishi Lancer. Using that light ring example, if I had a standard golf and I have had older cars which had that light ring, and the mitsubishi has one as well, but the golf doesnt, wouldnt you think "hmmm I wonder why they dont have it there when its pretty standard on every other car in the same range"? Sure, its a small thing and not every car is built the same way but things like cupholders, and the like are all standard basic equipment which consumers take for granted when purchasing a car. Imagine an everyday brand new car without any cupholders or little compartments apart from the glovebox. It's expected to be there, and when it isnt, it comes as somewhat of a surprise

The point of my post was that because the amount paid for the R is quite a bit of money, these little things are AMPLIFIED somewhat due to the amount spent on buying one. THats why it can be seen as "nitpicking" and to people like manol, just a bunch of guys bitching about the little things. Sometimes, its the little things that count. I was trying to make a point and make him see that because the amount spent to buy this car is a considerable amount, those little things stand out just that little bit more...

Its got nothing to do with buying a 60K car and expecting prestige or anything.

yes but we get a bottle opener with the VW badge on it.... located in the center console, which doubles as the cup holder.
I think that monal was referring to us complaining about a material object valued at 60k, an amount of money that 85% of the worlds population would not earn in an entire lifetime, many three lifetimes.

[Bill]

Actually there is. On the 2 door starlet GT there is a thick sticker badge on the lower section of the doors that says "GT Turbo". I had yellow stickers made up that fit over the existing ones, looked great. I would post a photo for you but don't have one on this PC and I am currently on the goad coast.

Chris

would have looked great... VW badges, Callipers in yellow, nice.... maybe something else?

[JSL]

I agree with a lot of post that for 60k you get plenty of car.. you want more refinements as some listed.. VW would add another 20k and call it an Audi :)

[Silvrfoxx]

. you want more refinements as some listed.. VW would add another 20k and call it an Audi :)you are kidding right

[ozmale]

I think we need to realize the car manufacturers and marketers live in a different world to the rest of us, and some of their decisions are remarkable to say the least.

E.G. if you download the brochure PDF of a golf "R" available in the UK the options available are not nearly a comprehensive as we get in Australia. In my opinion the brits get ripped off with a pretty plan car.

Also, my golf "R" at the mirror adjustment has a heated mirror symbol, if indeed the car has heated mirrors (as it says in the book) why in the world would you put heated mirrors in a car for an Australian climate. Folding mirrors (like just about every other car available today) would have been a much more sensible feature.

I am really curious to see what features the americians get in their golf "R"s

Chris

[Silvrfoxx]

They get a entirely different package option.. usually 2 models base and Premium. They are only getting Manual not DSG in both offerings but will get 3 and 5 door to choose from. They wont get 19" offered nor the black teledagas. also they wont get ACC offered or standard. They will get a snow or winter pack given the variable climate as will Canada. The pricing is way better though , they expect to pay around $34K for the base and probably 37/38 K for the premium. It isnt expected to get there until January 2012 and pricing and options have not been released in detail.. usual drip feed info.

[ozmale]

They get a entirely different package option.. usually 2 models base and Premium. They are only getting Manual not DSG in both offerings but will get 3 and 5 door to choose from. They wont get 19" offered nor the black teledagas. also they wont get ACC offered or standard. They will get a snow or winter pack given the variable climate as will Canada. The pricing is way better though , they expect to pay around $34K for the base and probably 37/38 K for the premium. It isnt expected to get there until January 2012 and pricing and options have not been released in detail.. usual drip feed info.

I rest my case, all very strange.

[stephen8512]

Also, my golf "R" at the mirror adjustment has a heated mirror symbol, if indeed the car has heated mirrors (as it says in the book) why in the world would you put heated mirrors in a car for an Australian climate. Folding mirrors (like just about every other car available today) would have been a much more sensible feature.


nah, the more sensible option would have been to give back the 11kw they took away from the engine if theyre gonna leave heated mirrors on for "australian climate"

[ozmale]

nah, the more sensible option would have been to give back the 11kw they took away from the engine if theyre gonna leave heated mirrors on for "australian climate"

I was going to say that but didn't want to sound power mad, which off course we all are.

[_Just]

I was just thinking that it would be awesome if my R had a good spot for keeping some loose change. There really isn't anywhere to keep some coins without them being noisy, is there? Just a small gripe really. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/5.gif

[Riley]

Do they keep quiet in the drivers side sunglass compartment? That is if you do not use it for sunglasses.

[stephen8512]

I was just thinking that it would be awesome if my R had a good spot for keeping some loose change. There really isn't anywhere to keep some coins without them being noisy, is there? Just a small gripe really. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/5.gif

I just lined the inside of my ashtray with some thin grippy felt and a bit of rubber and it doesnt rattle at all

[silverbullet]

rattles are part of owning a VW

[Bill]

no rattles from the Black, if so, back to the shop quick smart. checked before ordering, in writing, all rattles fixed under warranty and I have a 5 year warranty.....

[_Just]

Do they keep quiet in the drivers side sunglass compartment? That is if you do not use it for sunglasses.


I just lined the inside of my ashtray with some thin grippy felt and a bit of rubber and it doesnt rattle at all
Driver side sunglass compartment? What is that? I thought the sunglass compartment is on the roof lining where the map lights are?

Ashtray? Is that the one at the front where the lighter is? Hmm.



rattles are part of owning a VW
I have no rattles at all - unless of course I have coins in the car. The Mini was notorious for rattles, but the R has been the quietest ride ever.

[Riley]

Under the steering wheel to the right is another compartment that looks like a sunglass holder.

[stephen8512]

Ashtray? Is that the one at the front where the lighter is? Hmm.

yep

[stephen8512]

Under the steering wheel to the right is another compartment that looks like a sunglass holder.

It can be used for anything really...but i doubt sunglasses would fit? well, my pradas certainly dont. I just keep it in my glovebox as its too big for the actual sunglass holder

And thats another negative....a useless sunglass holder....cant get shit in there

[nath_mk6]

the 'sun glass' holder is actually for driving glasses isnt it, they fit no problems, well my reading ones do anyway

[stephen8512]

the 'sun glass' holder is actually for driving glasses isnt it, they fit no problems, well my reading ones do anyway

my fatass prada's wont >D

[_Just]

It can be used for anything really...but i doubt sunglasses would fit? well, my pradas certainly dont. I just keep it in my glovebox as its too big for the actual sunglass holder

And thats another negative....a useless sunglass holder....cant get shit in there
Hahaha. I can't get my Armani ones in either. Both the one at the top, and the one on the right is too small. I have to use the glovebox too!

[Silvrfoxx]

It is a drivers car not a Mardi Gras float.. harden up girls

[ikprojekt]

I think the sunglass compartment near the map lights are designed for sunnies that are similar in size of reading glasses.

[ikprojekt]

the 'sun glass' holder is actually for driving glasses isnt it, they fit no problems, well my reading ones do anyway

x2 reply.

[_Just]

It is a drivers car not a Mardi Gras float.. harden up girls
Hahaha! http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif

[Silvrfoxx]

and they wonder why the Golf has such a girly reputation ffs, Prada glasses ..

[Tim]

I think the Germans do it on purpose to discourage people from wearing ridiculous glasses.
My Bolle sunnies ive had for 10+ years fit in the holders fine :D

[stephen8512]

and they wonder why the Golf has such a girly reputation ffs, Prada glasses ..

>D u know you like it as well bob

[Riley]

Damn, my Burberry's don't fit either!

[_Just]

On a separate note, it was listed today that the VW Golf R won the Top Gear's "Hot Hatch of the Year" award! Pretty impressive as it was chosen over the Focus RS and the Megane RS250.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/the-2010-top-gear-awards?imageNo=5

Not so sure about the Citroen DS3 winning the 'Car of the Year' however?

[Riley]

Interesting, I am sure I saw an advert for the Megane which said it won the Top Gear car of the year award. MMMM!

[onpole01]

My wife has reported a well known negative of the R to me-D mode. She claimed it's sluggish, often finds itself in the wrong gear when approaching climbing hills and she reported a noticeable lag with coupled with a sudden burst of power. Nothing new and easily fixed by putting it in paddle mode but interesting to hear from a non-enthusiast. Hmmm might be chasing up that dsg flash after all.

[_Just]

Interesting, I am sure I saw an advert for the Megane which said it won the Top Gear car of the year award. MMMM!

Yeah? I think I read that on another magazine? *shrug*

The link on Top Gear's website says it's the DS3. Either way, I'm pretty stoked that they think quite highly of the Golf R, as do I obviously.


My wife has reported a well known negative of the R to me-D mode. She claimed it's sluggish, often finds itself in the wrong gear when approaching climbing hills and she reported a noticeable lag with coupled with a sudden burst of power. Nothing new and easily fixed by putting it in paddle mode but interesting to hear from a non-enthusiast. Hmmm might be chasing up that dsg flash after all.

Hmm. So that's more of a negative on the DSG rather than on the Golf R as such. Guess it's not a problem then if you keep it in manual mode?

[Tinto]

In the wrong gear approaching a hill. You can't blame that on the car!
Does the dsg reflash include some psychic ability? ;)

Lag is nothing that a stage 1 flash won't fix (trust me, we have basically the same engine/turbo).

[_Just]

In the wrong gear approaching a hill. You can't blame that on the car!
Does the dsg reflash include some psychic ability? ;)

Lag is nothing that a stage 1 flash won't fix (trust me, we have basically the same engine/turbo).

Where did you get your APR work done from mate? Especially here in Perth.

How much boost are you running?

[onpole01]

Umm actually it is the car's fault if you're in D mode. Ask anyone with an R and they will tell you D mode is shite. Wrong gear coming down a slight descent, braking, accelerating, braking then accelerating up the hill (I'm describing a drive in traffic) then you will most likely be in gear 4 or 5 as the d mode is trying to get up the gears or down the gears as fast as possible to conserve fuel. Happy for you to have a drive to experience it and I can categorically confirm the mkv dsg was not like this. As a parallel complaint imagine being in sixth gear, descending diwn a hill and halfway down the hill with your foot on the brake the d modegas changed diwn to 3rd gear and revving over 5K is no fun at all

BTW, my lag issue will b addressed this Saturday with a flash-which I'm very much looking toward to!

Dsg reflash does address/improve the issues in D mode according to a supplier in Sydney of dsg flashes-I don't have it so I cannot confirm but I don't think psychic ability is a feature


In the wrong gear approaching a hill. You can't blame that on the car!
Does the dsg reflash include some psychic ability? ;)

Lag is nothing that a stage 1 flash won't fix (trust me, we have basically the same engine/turbo).

[Tinto]

Where did you get your APR work done from mate? Especially here in Perth.

How much boost are you running?

Quattro Motors in Vic Park.
I don't know how much boost - don't have a gauge :)


Dsg reflash does address/improve the issues in D mode according to a supplier in Sydney of dsg flashes-I don't have it so I cannot confirm but I don't think psychic ability is a feature

I haven't driven an R with DSG so I can't comment on the specifics that you've experienced, but some driver input should be expected from time to time - either a harder foot on the pedal or flick a gear in a given situation.
Maybe I misunderstood you, but your gearbox can't anticipate the existence of a hill until you're on it - so saying it is in the wrong gear approaching a hill is like complaining it didn't indicate on its own when you approached an intersection.

[onpole01]

Yeah fair enough, it's more that because of it's urgency to go up and down gears so quickly that it affects both going up and down hills negatively IMO

[Prodigy]

Where did you get your APR work done from mate? Especially here in Perth.



You considering a stage 1 Justin? :cool:

I'll definitely get it done later on down the track, my only concern with getting it now would be warranty issues.

[Tinto]

I've had mine flashed since about 1200km ;)

Although you're in a new car, it isn't a new engine or drivetrain, so the niggling engine-related issues that may be present in a new generation engine (mk6 GTI) shouldn't really be present for those in the R.
But I more than understand the need to wait a while.

However once you do it, you won't be able to believe how you drove it around without it.
Something feels wrong when it is turned off. It isn't violent or intrusive, just pulls all the way around the dial.

[ozmale]

Guys,

Although I almost exclusively drive my "R" in manual, I agree that "D" mode seems to be deliberately sedate, seems to spent all of its time in 5th or 6th. However if you give it the boot it takes off. On the other hand having just done a very long country trip the "S" mode is excellent for safely passing other cars. S seems to be perfectly match to the engine power under throttle.

Chris

[CJ9999]

Guys,

Although I almost exclusively drive my "R" in manual, I agree that "D" mode seems to be deliberately sedate, seems to spent all of its time in 5th or 6th. However if you give it the boot it takes off. On the other hand having just done a very long country trip the "S" mode is excellent for safely passing other cars. S seems to be perfectly match to the engine power under throttle.

Chris

Completely agree with your comments on the S mode.

[CJ9999]

As a parallel complaint imagine being in sixth gear, descending diwn a hill and halfway down the hill with your foot on the brake the d modegas changed diwn to 3rd gear and revving over 5K is no fun at all

My R definitely doesn't do this in D when going downhill. In fact, I usually need to knock in back to S mode if I want a lower gear when going downhill (or grab a lower gear manually).

Maybe its an issue with your particular car, rather than a general issue with the R.

[Prodigy]

My R definitely doesn't do this in D when going downhill. In fact, I usually need to knock in back to S mode if I want a lower gear when going downhill (or grab a lower gear manually).

Maybe its an issue with your particular car, rather than a general issue with the R.

I'm with you on this one Chris, i've never noticed an issue when going down hill as onpole01 mentioned.

[onpole01]

Guys find a steep, and I mean steep hill of at least 300 metres plus in length, be in d mode and approach the hill in D mode at around 60kms and roll down the hill with your foot on the brake maintaining 60kms-you must maintain 60kms-don't accelerate, don't change modes don't touch the paddles-I'd imagine none of guys drive like this which may be why you don't experience it as soon as you hit a hill you probably change modes or are already in manual or s mode or maybe yo accelerate down the hill. On a really steep hill it'll jump down to 3rd gear but most hills with a slight descent will jump down to 4th-it's the 3rd gear ones that piss me off

I don't believe my dsg gear box would be any different to yours but I am interested in what you think maybe the issue with my car and why only my car is doing it-is it a ratio thing perhaps?.

[fuzion]

could be me poking a stick at it.

but everyone has a white golf r with black wheels

lol

[CJ9999]

Guys find a steep, and I mean steep hill of at least 300 metres plus in length, be in d mode and approach the hill in D mode at around 60kms and roll down the hill with your foot on the brake maintaining 60kms-you must maintain 60kms-don't accelerate, don't change modes don't touch the paddles-I'd imagine none of guys drive like this which may be why you don't experience it as soon as you hit a hill you probably change modes or are already in manual or s mode or maybe yo accelerate down the hill. On a really steep hill it'll jump down to 3rd gear but most hills with a slight descent will jump down to 4th-it's the 3rd gear ones that piss me off

I don't believe my dsg gear box would be any different to yours but I am interested in what you think maybe the issue with my car and why only my car is doing it-is it a ratio thing perhaps?.

Is there a specific hill (or hills) where your car always does this?

If / when I am near that location, I will try it out.

I've driven down many hills in Sydney North and I haven't noticed this as an issue.

One possibility is that because I normally use S mode down steep hills, the DSG software has "learned" a different behaviour (just a wild guess).

[onpole01]

Hi CJ9999,

there are definitely different ratios in s mode to D mode and it's highly unlikely you'll experience what I'm talking about in S mode. Find any steep hill and keep it in D mode foot on the brake maintaining 60kms and depending on the incline it will at least kick back to 4th if not 3rd. Can I just say it's no drama for me as I just over ride with the paddles but for those that stick it in D and just drive, it's not exactly pleasant. You can plant your foot down to make it gear up but now you're speeding down a hill. D mode is all about fuel conservation hence the characteristics I've mentioned, yes if I need more power I just press harder. But IMO the D mode is not as smooth as the MKV. I actually swore I wouldn't post on this thread cos I'm over the moon with my R but my wife's comments prompted me given she is not an enthusiast and gets to drive a fair range of cars through get work.

End of the day D mode is fine and is certainly adequate and is by no means a deal breaker. I'm looking forward to seeing the changes if any in all modes once I have my flash done. I'll be sure to post how it turns out

[ozmale]

could be me poking a stick at it.

but everyone has a white golf r with black wheels

lol

NOW !!! Do I detect a hint of jealously here ?

[onpole01]

Sorry Fuzion but how is your comment relevant to this thread titled 'Negatives on the Golf R'?




could be me poking a stick at it.

but everyone has a white golf r with black wheels

lol

[stephen8512]

NOW !!! Do I detect a hint of jealously here ?

Hahah I doubt it....he has an S3 with GIAC extreme tune. From what I hear, its fking mental!!!


Sorry Fuzion but how is your comment relevant to this thread titled 'Negatives on the Golf R'?

I guess for me as an owner for a CW Golf R, i can see where he is coming from. The past 4 days I saw 5 white Golf Rs and it just seems that this and Rising blue are the most popular choices. I suppose people know what looks good eh? :)

[Bill]

You considering a stage 1 Justin? :cool:

I'll definitely get it done later on down the track, my only concern with getting it now would be warranty issues.

Prod, i understand why you're concerned about warranty, but you'll have to wait three years or maybe like me you took the extended 5 year warranty. The flash improves the cars mid range performance in such a dramatic way, warranty becomes less important. Maybe it was a BS response to the question I posed to APR, but they told me that VW has never had a Flash related warranty issue. So VW have never knocked back a claim..... I don't think that my Black will be the first. We have spent 18k to Option are 'Rs' up to how we want them. I believe all R owners and future R owners should budget 1.7k for the flash. Remember that if decided prior to purchase the Flash and any other mode can be put on the Lease. The flash will add approx $13.00 per week to a 5 year lease. whereas the Dynaudio costs us about 22.50 per week.... just sharing my thoughts.

[fuzion]

NOW !!! Do I detect a hint of jealously here ?

Haha .. yes i do have an S3 so no jealousy there at all :)

Onpole, its relevant.. haha.... Just see so many! Not a hate, love them but my god ..they are everywhere! Just wait till carbon bits come out, itll be black white and carbon.. LOL

Regarding tune, head GIAC having a plug around with more tune options too apparently.

[Mr_Bob]

The flash will add approx $13.00 per week to a 5 year lease. whereas the Dynaudio costs us about 22.50 per week.... just sharing my thoughts.
$13/wk is $3800 over the term of the lease!
i thought the flash was $1795, and the Dynaudio was $1300, if so the above figures make no sense to me!
unless you're referring to Dynaudio and Satnav combo?

[Bill]

yes correct, sorry, should be 7 bucks a week for stage 1... very wordy but hopefully point was made though?

[onpole01]

Hi Fuzion and stephen8512,

guys I'm not convinced that car colours or rim colours are negatives of the car itself. We don't have a monopoly on these cars and just because someone has the same colour vehicle or rims is in itself not a negative. There are only so many colour combos available. S3, R, Porsche whatever, they're all great cars and there are plenty of these cars around with the same colours.

You could always go and get a custom job done on your rims if it is bothering you that much that you think it's a negative. Cw with black rims comes on offer from factory as you know so if you got it why wouldn't somone else?

[stephen8512]

Hi Fuzion and stephen8512,

guys I'm not convinced that car colours or rim colours are negatives of the car itself. We don't have a monopoly on these cars and just because someone has the same colour vehicle or rims is in itself not a negative. There are only so many colour combos available. S3, R, Porsche whatever, they're all great cars and there are plenty of these cars around with the same colours.

You could always go and get a custom job done on your rims if it is bothering you that much that you think it's a negative. Cw with black rims comes on offer from factory as you know so if you got it why wouldn't somone else?

Hey mate
Of course its not a negative in the traditional sense. As I said, people know what looks good and tend to go with it :) BUt I am seeing a lot more white R's than blue these days...ive only see one united gray so far and only 1 black in the flesh. I guess white is a popular colour. ANd it looks good with the black rims

I think what pierre (fuzion) was getting at was the exclusivity side of it will not be the same as when the car first came out (which is to be expcected of course)....but definitely not a negative on the actual car itself.

[onpole01]

Hey man,

that's my point though if it's not a negative how is it relevant to this thread? Mate there is nothing exclusive about White coloured cars. I was the first on the forum with an R iirc and the first White one but the fact that other people buy them is not an issue for me and only confirms my decision that it was a good choice, It's a great contrast and I kept the silver rims on it. For the record I've seen no other CW Rs, two grey and one blue. The car is itself has the exclusivity, not the colour.

[Mr_Bob]

That's partly why i picked RB.
Even if 40% of R's come out in RB, thats still a small number as the R is only a small percentage of the overall Golf sales anyway.
same with TR for the GTI

[CJ9999]

Hi CJ9999,

there are definitely different ratios in s mode to D mode and it's highly unlikely you'll experience what I'm talking about in S mode. Find any steep hill and keep it in D mode foot on the brake maintaining 60kms and depending on the incline it will at least kick back to 4th if not 3rd. Can I just say it's no drama for me as I just over ride with the paddles but for those that stick it in D and just drive, it's not exactly pleasant. You can plant your foot down to make it gear up but now you're speeding down a hill. D mode is all about fuel conservation hence the characteristics I've mentioned, yes if I need more power I just press harder. But IMO the D mode is not as smooth as the MKV. I actually swore I wouldn't post on this thread cos I'm over the moon with my R but my wife's comments prompted me given she is not an enthusiast and gets to drive a fair range of cars through get work.

End of the day D mode is fine and is certainly adequate and is by no means a deal breaker. I'm looking forward to seeing the changes if any in all modes once I have my flash done. I'll be sure to post how it turns out

My previous posts might have been unclear - I meant to say that I haven't noticed this issue going downhill in D mode. I often find going down a steep hill in D the car is in too high a gear and so has no effective engine braking, so I then need to change to S mode to get the car to downchange (I hate the "roller coaster" feeling going down hill).

I will try out D mode down some more hills in the way you have mentioned and I'll post the results.

[fuzion]

Hey mate
Of course its not a negative in the traditional sense. As I said, people know what looks good and tend to go with it :) BUt I am seeing a lot more white R's than blue these days...ive only see one united gray so far and only 1 black in the flesh. I guess white is a popular colour. ANd it looks good with the black rims

I think what pierre (fuzion) was getting at was the exclusivity side of it will not be the same as when the car first came out (which is to be expcected of course)....but definitely not a negative on the actual car itself.

i dont think he gets the pun, its gone right over his head.. voosh! lol

ps. this is a exclusive message fyi.

Dont take it serious on pole, its called humour dude.. was just joking around.

1 negative is, it wont wheel spin all for wheels in dsg to well..

[onpole01]

Fusion,

yeh mate right over my head like this will be for you! not taking it seriously. But this thread is not called "let's have a girl's blouse whinge that people are buying the same colour" it's called "Negatives on the Golf R. I'm so over having threads go off track with woffle! Do we really need to point out to people the bleeding obvious that there are people buying Gokf Rs in colours that are offered by the factory? Or ghat people might buy the same colour-I mean really? It's already been acknowledged that colour is not a negative so discussions about colour within this thread don't really apply

Over and out





i dont think he gets the pun, its gone right over his head.. voosh! lol

ps. this is a exclusive message fyi.

Dont take it serious on pole, its called humour dude.. was just joking around.

1 negative is, it wont wheel spin all for wheels in dsg to well..

[G-rig]

Even if 40% of R's come out in RB, thats still a small number as the R is only a small percentage of the overall Golf sales anyway.
same with TR for the GTI

Yeah it's nothing to worry about too much.. someone else is going to have the same colour car unless you go a custom paint job.

Ps. There is a nice TR Golf GT that parks outside work :P

[fuzion]

Yeah it's nothing to worry about too much.. someone else is going to have the same colour car unless you go a custom paint job.

Ps. There is a nice TR Golf GT that parks outside work :P

Its a real negative though that they decided not to bring in the TR Golf R's in Australia. They look very nice indeed! Part reason i didn't go for one!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/TKECbOHUPiI/AAAAAAADWR8/WDhHkVPnqXw/s800/Wimmer-RS-VW-Golf-R-0.jpg

[nath_mk6]

There is one TR R in Aus or will be special order and the guy dropped out too. There's a thread on mk6 from memory

[∆pex]

Its a real negative though that they decided not to bring in the TR Golf R's in Australia.
that surprised me too!

[G-rig]

TR R32 didn't suit the R32 IMO, with the silver highlights (and blue brakes yuk).. Some people just like to have something rare/different though.

It's a bit precious complaining about having a car the same colour as other people will/have bought - what's next.

If you want something more exclusive get a car other than a Golf or something like a Green RS Focus, or a custom paint job..

[CJ9999]

having had time to appreciate and critically review my R the only thing i can fault is the 'reversing light'. its on the wrong side of the car and barely bright enough to make any difference to the visibility.

The weak reversing light is also annoying me, as I have a long driveway.

I wanted to check out what bulb was in the reversing light (so I could replace it with something better), but I couldn't remove the bulb.

I got the light assembly straight off, but the bulb holder for the reversing light wouldn't come out of the light assembly - it would turn to unlock but not come out.

Does anyone know how to get the reversing light bulb out?

[ozmale]

The weak reversing light is also annoying me, as I have a long driveway.

I wanted to check out what bulb was in the reversing light (so I could replace it with something better), but I couldn't remove the bulb.

I got the light assembly straight off, but the bulb holder for the reversing light wouldn't come out of the light assembly - it would turn to unlock but not come out.

Does anyone know how to get the reversing light bulb out?

Strange, I just turned my bulb holder and it fell out in my hand. May be your little rubber seal is a bit sticky and just needs a bit more perseverance.

After a look, it doesn't look like there is much we can do about the bulb. You can always put a higher wattage one in or a LED replacement but there is nothing like having one on each side.

Chris

[Age100]

Hi Gents, new to this forum but collect my new Golf R DSG in the morning...can't wait

[ozmale]

Welcome to the clan Adrian.

You should update your signature if you want with some details of your car, what options you have and the junk you have bought for it just like the rest of us "R" tragic s.

Chris

[Age100]

Yep will do, 5Door in CW RNS510 sat nav & MDI at the moment, sounds like there are plenty of goodies to buy over the coming years, first will be the BT I think. I test drove the S3 manual and decide I would wait for an S3 DSG....that was untill I drove the Golf R DSG I just felt so much better than the S3 not what I expected at all! Sorry S3 owners.....only one more sleep.

[_Just]

Yep will do, 5Door in CW RNS510 sat nav & MDI at the moment, sounds like there are plenty of goodies to buy over the coming years, first will be the BT I think. I test drove the S3 manual and decide I would wait for an S3 DSG....that was untill I drove the Golf R DSG I just felt so much better than the S3 not what I expected at all! Sorry S3 owners.....only one more sleep.

Wow. That's interesting to hear that you preferred the R over the S3 in terms of drive, rather than price.

I was reading an article yesterday on the coming RS3 and think if I were to ever upgrade to another hatch from the Golf R, it would have to be one of those! It would be placed firmly in the same league as the Cosworth STI and Focus RS500.

[CJ9999]

Wow. That's interesting to hear that you preferred the R over the S3 in terms of drive, rather than price.

I was reading an article yesterday on the coming RS3 and think if I were to ever upgrade to another hatch from the Golf R, it would have to be one of those! It would be placed firmly in the same league as the Cosworth STI and Focus RS500.

I've just read about the RS3 as well - very quick (0-100 in 4.4) but expected to be $100k so it would want to be good.

[_Just]

I've just read about the RS3 as well - very quick (0-100 in 4.4) but expected to be $100k so it would want to be good.
Yeah, Audi has claimed 4.4 seconds, but when Evo drove it, they said that they wouldn't be surprised if it was tested to be 4 seconds flat.

You think it would be as much as 100k?

[G-rig]

I think the Audi build quality and extra refinement is probably worth the extra, feels like a more expensive car.

[stephen8512]

I think the Audi build quality and extra refinement is probably worth the extra, feels like a more expensive car.

but for the RS3, its essentially a A3/S3 body with the TT RS motor, so really, all ur paying for is the motor....and to me, the S3/A3 body looks dated and is need of a revamp.

[G-rig]

but for the RS3, its essentially a A3/S3 body with the TT RS motor, so really, all ur paying for is the motor....and to me, the S3/A3 body looks dated and is need of a revamp.

That's true I would wait for a new model which is fairly overdue.

Went in a mates first gen TT recently and the quality and finish was still better then the VW's.. just nicer materials etc. Even the way the A/C smells. Although VW's tick all the boxes and are better value.

Just sayin'..

[stephen8512]

That's true I would wait for a new model which is fairly overdue.

Went in a mates first gen TT recently and the quality and finish was still better then the VW's.. just nicer materials etc. Even the way the A/C smells. Although VW's tick all the boxes and are better value.

Just sayin'..

Yeah agreed with u there too greg, the quality and fit and finish is a 1up from VW. Not saying VW is shit quality, because thats very far from the truth. But everything feels and seems like it has taken that extra step to make sure even the little details are paid attention to

[Silvrfoxx]

Yeah agreed with u there too greg, the quality and fit and finish is a 1up from VW. Not saying VW is shit quality, because thats very far from the truth. But everything feels and seems like it has taken that extra step to make sure even the little details are paid attention to

Thats just the badge talkin.. same same

[Jig]

I think the VW Golf quality is on-par with the Audi's(interior wise that is)... Its just your mind playing with you into thinking that I am sitting in a more plush car than a VW. Another good comparison is a BMW interior. It looks nothing like what the price suggests. I have sat on a 135 and the same on the MK6 R or GTI and I like the GTI interior better. All of these are of course subjective.

[Ideo]

The wait. Simple as that.

[Age100]

Thats just the badge talkin.. same same

After having looked in some detail at both the S3 & R I was ready to buy the S3, after having driven them both I bought the R. It just felt better! And as there should be a new S3 not too far away I'm thinking the R will hold it's value better and I got a great deal on the R.

[Age100]

I dont want to hijack this thread but can someone post a link where I can get the BT upgrade from...and maybe the Dyna-audio upgrade...just dont want to get the wrong thing. Thanks guys. Age
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bluetooth-VW-RNS-510-9WZ-Premium-2011-5N0-035-730-D-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa7f9faa7QQitemZ32064 5757607QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts

[ML62]

Hi guys, new to the forum and have had my R (silver manual 5 door) for about 2 months and am still very much in love with it. My only criticism with the car is 'creaking' doors. It seems that the doors move in their frames a bit on certain road surfaces and 'creak' (best way I can describe it). I test drove a demo up here in Newcastle and it was making the same sound, therefore I didn't pursue purchasing that one. Found a vehicle at a Mascot dealer that was available and had pretty much all the options I wanted and very exciredly bought that car. No creaks until a few hundred kms on the clock and then guess what? The creaks started ........ The car is going back to the dealer shortly to hopefully sort out a poorly performing MDI cable/connection and the doors. Has anybody else encountered this noise with the doors or am I the only to manage to find 2 cars that do it? Other than the creaks this is a fantastic car to own and drive!

[ozmale]

I am sure I have read that others have had a similar problem but not sure if it was in an "R"
I have had my "R" for over a month now done 3000k on some pretty rough country roads and not a creak to be heard.

Chris

[_Just]

I have 2500 k's on the clock now, and no creaks on this end?

The MDI works really well for me too! Love how I can have the iPhone plugged in, an SD card inserted AND have a CD in the deck and switch between them so easily.

[Silvrfoxx]

I suggest when you have it being foxed for the MDI ask them to re seat the doors and tighten them up

[elisiX]

Mine creaks but I think they all do. I'm not sure if it's the doors or trim though.

To me it sounds like the latter and coming from the b pillar. Only happens on driveways.

[Hay13]

Hey ML62, as elisiX mentions they all creak. It sounds to me like it's the door seals as the body flexes, it only occurs when entering/leaving driveways on an angle.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Hey Silverfox, I can't believe you're still waiting for your R! : )

[Silvrfoxx]

Neither can I... but good news today.. Build week 11 arrives May 20th deliver 2nd week of June..

[Hay13]

Neither can I... but good news today.. Build week 11 arrives May 20th deliver 2nd week of June..

When did you order it?

Seems like you've been around forever!

[Silvrfoxx]

September 25th last year.. only 5 months :(

[Ideo]

September 25th last year.. only 5 months :(

That' what is worrying me with my order.

[dave-r]

The weak reversing light is also annoying me, as I have a long driveway.
Coming from a falcon which had headlights for reverse, I've struggled to adjust on that one as well but it isn't unique to the R.


I think the Audi build quality and extra refinement is probably worth the extra, feels like a more expensive car.
I've noticed that a bit lately compared to my mates Audi's. One is 4yrs old and still silent. My R is only 4500kms old but the door trim rattles are horrible. Dealer put a mute idiot in the car so they "can't" hear it haha. Probably luck of the draw though.


Mine creaks but I think they all do. I'm not sure if it's the doors or trim though.
Yeah I get that every morning reversing out of my driveway, sounds like its coming from the pillar but NFI.

Can't say I've got many negatives on my car. Still dislike the Dunlops fitted to the 19's and the wheels are bitch to clean, not much else so far!

[Ideo]

That' what is worrying me with my order.

And on an update...

Picking up a dealer order in about 2 weeks. Awesome.

[Uwish]

Sorry but i have to laugh at some of your rants!
Turbo Lag.....do you people even know what that is?
I have had many turbo setups from Datto 1600s to S15 to wrx and evos.
The Golf R with DSG is near perfect.
Come for a drive in my evo! I think its ok but some find it laggy.

I personly can not wait for my R.

[Parso]

Hi Alex,
After playing with a few of the R's now I think is not really turbo lag that the guys are experiencing although I can understand what they are on about. It seems to be a deliberate delay in the DBW mapping at part throttle areas. By that I mean you request a value (with your right foot :) ) lets call it 10 and instead of jumping straight to 10 it will slowly ramp up at a predetermined rate and this ramp is what looks like a bit of lag. I'll have a look at this at some point but in reality as you know the K04 is a tiny turbo and its not really that much bigger than a K03.

[Uwish]

Mark, looking forward to you tuning my R when I finally get it :)

[ML62]

Good news guys, the creaking of the doors can be fixed! Took the car back to the dealer, Barloworld at Mascot, recently and they lubricated the door rubbers with a product called Krytox and the noises have gone. So obviously the creaks are not normal and can be rectified. Costa (Kosta?) at Barloworld is my new hero .... now that the doors (and a dicky MDI cable) in the R have been fixed I am 100% in love with this fantastic car!!!

[Ideo]

Sorry but i have to laugh at some of your rants!
Turbo Lag.....do you people even know what that is?
I have had many turbo setups from Datto 1600s to S15 to wrx and evos.
The Golf R with DSG is near perfect.
Come for a drive in my evo! I think its ok but some find it laggy.

I personly can not wait for my R.

I'm with you on that. I jump between my S3 and the R and the R has a pretty linear spread of power for a turbo 4. Don't know what most people are on about.

On a side note - did you have the same user name on the old fast fours forum?

[zz2]

negatives on the Golf R… its not a mazda 6MPS







too soon?

[Silvrfoxx]

not relevant

[RD415]

negatives on the Golf R… its not a mazda 6MPS

too soon?


oh!!!! Too True LOL