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Riley
10-01-2011, 04:25 PM
I was wondering if anybody had this system (RNS510) retro fitted and if there is anything I need to be careful of. If V3 Maps Aus comes installed is there a disc I need for updates?

We had it penciled in with VW ($2400), as it was an after thought but I see the new version C with Led Display can be purchased on Ebay for approx $990 as re-manufactured. Anybody used re-manufactured goods before? Thoughts?

Is this just a plug and play system for somebody with limited but some knowledge of how these things work, or something for the pros?

DIY - $950
Pro install - $1450 (not VW)
VW - $2400

The problem I have is that I want it to work. Anybody have any good contacts in WA that could help?

r207
10-01-2011, 04:30 PM
I was wondering if anybody had this system (RNS510) retro fitted and if there is anything I need to be careful of. If V3 Maps Aus comes installed is there a disc I need for updates?

We had it penciled in with VW ($2400), as it was an after thought but I see the new version C with Led Display can be purchased on Ebay for approx $990 as re-manufactured. Anybody used re-manufactured goods before? Thoughts?

Is this just a plug and play system for somebody with limited but some knowledge of how these things work, or something for the pros?

DIY - $950
Pro install - $1450 (not VW)
VW - $2400

The problem I have is that I want it to work. Anybody have any good contacts in WA that could help?

very easy to install, just make sure you get the right one

elisiX
10-01-2011, 04:30 PM
If you can buy it installed from the factory - do it.

If not, they're easily retro fitted and for a lot less $$ than $1450.

I think Derek @ European Autotech can have the unit installed for like $1500 including the unit. (dont quote me)

The units themselves are only $1k.

Riley
10-01-2011, 04:42 PM
If you can buy it installed from the factory - do it.

If not, they're easily retro fitted and for a lot less $$ than $1450.

I think Derek @ European Autotech can have the unit installed for like $1500 including the unit. (dont quote me)

The units themselves are only $1k.

Thanks folks, quick response and helpful. The $1450 also included the unit but would much rather source and install at the same place for that price. I gather Derek is in Sydney as well.

Are you suggesting I get it down by VW for an extra $1000?

Riley
10-01-2011, 04:44 PM
Sorry, can you advise of a website that does new units for that price?

elisiX
10-01-2011, 04:45 PM
No sorry I meant if you can still order it with the car, get VW to do it. Factory install is always worth it.

Some might not agree however. Those people can see Derek (in Sydney - Mona Vale) who will sort it all out and save you money.

As I said, not sure on his price but I cannot imagine itll be more than $1500.

nath_mk6
10-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Mate I got a C version from eBay myself and installed it, with the mk6 it's a 20min install even for a novice like me. And yes it's plug and play

Riley
10-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Was it an Ebay purchase and can I ask the price?

Rescue 26
10-01-2011, 05:55 PM
I bought the C version with LED display for $950 off eBay. Came with V3 maps installed. 15 minutes to self install in the car. Search around and you will find installation instructions on the net. You will then need to find someone with the VAG COM cable to change a couple of settings in order to have the navigation instructions repeated on your MFD. I haven't bothered so far. As far as I can tell everything else works normally and all other features are available straight out of the box (plug and play).

Riley
10-01-2011, 06:02 PM
Sounds like the one I have been looking at, going to buy it now.

Thanks for all your posts.

Riley
10-01-2011, 08:02 PM
UPDATE:

I have ordered the unit and should take about 3-4 days to arrive. If anybody else is interested in seeing this install or can assist, please let me know before the weekend, That is if my car and unit have arrived by then.

jezx
17-01-2011, 07:46 PM
UPDATE:

I have ordered the unit and should take about 3-4 days to arrive. If anybody else is interested in seeing this install or can assist, please let me know before the weekend, That is if my car and unit have arrived by then.

Definitely interested in seeing how you go with this. Did you get the LED version or the old version B?

Riley
17-01-2011, 08:58 PM
Hey Jezx,

Keep going back and forth if I am going to do this myself or get professional help. If I do install will PM you. The posts about the steering wheel needing vagcom updates is concerning me. I am sure all the info will be on the web somewhere.

Version C (LED)

jezx
17-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Hey Jezx,

Keep going back and forth if I am going to do this myself or get professional help. If I do install will PM you. The posts about the steering wheel needing vagcom updates is concerning me. I am sure all the info will be on the web somewhere.

Version C (LED)

I was told by a mechanic here that it would take them 1 hour of labour to do the installation and VAG-COM coding. All up its about $100 for labour, not bad for a bit of piece of mind.

nath_mk6
17-01-2011, 10:35 PM
Wow an hour, maybe its a minimum charge as the swap takes about 10-15 mins and the coding about 5-10 if you know what you're doing

toranova
17-01-2011, 10:38 PM
I was told by a mechanic here that it would take them 1 hour of labour to do the installation and VAG-COM coding. All up its about $100 for labour, not bad for a bit of piece of mind.


Where did you get the quote for $100?

Also are these remanufactured sat nav units d
ecent?

Riley
17-01-2011, 11:48 PM
Also interested in a place that can do it for $100. VW gave a quote (off the top of his head of $600).

The problem is, does anybody in Perth know "what they are doing"?

nath_mk6
18-01-2011, 09:30 AM
Plently of guides online on how to do it, here and on VWW, all you really need is that and then someone with a bit of Vagcom knowledge.

The actual swap is really easy, the trim around the unit pops off, then 4 x T20 screws unit out, unplug then seat the GPS ariel as high as possible (I removed the upper vents (2 x T20 screws) and placed it snugly in there then plugs into the back of the unit, turn it on and put it all back together.

Riley
18-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Thanks Nathan,

I have been looking at the guides on the forum but the Vagcom knowledge is the bit I am not sure about. Going to give it a go. I see the cables only cost about $8-$15.

Christian
18-01-2011, 11:52 AM
Riley - let me know how you go (Or even better - let me know WHEN you're doing the instal! :-) Would love to be on hand to swap tech experiences!) - I'm looking at doing the same thing to mine :-)

nath_mk6
18-01-2011, 12:03 PM
Original cables new are around $200 from memory, you can get cheap knockoffs cheap on eBay but personnally I wouldnt use them, you may pick up one second hand cheap but I doubt that cheap.

This site is the company of origin and has a wiki with data, theres also a thread on VWW and Vortex.

http://www.ross-tech.com/

toranova
18-01-2011, 01:17 PM
Local VW place here in Canberra quoted me $110 over the phone. Said it about an hours work, needed to install it whack the antenna in a good place and just do some computer recoding and it would be done. He did say if I was going to supply the unit to make sure it was a genuine VW one as they have had problems with the cheap copies. Doesn't help over in WA obviously but just wanted to give you an idea of the price.

EDIT: Also with voice control of the RNS510 if you have factory fitted Bluetooth can you get it to use the same microphone for RNS voice command? Googled it quite a bit but keep turning up blanks, seems a lot of sites say you need to purchase a mic for the RNS510 but make no mention if the bluetooth mic would work.

ozmale
21-01-2011, 05:54 PM
Guys,
I bought my RNS510 off ebay about a month before I go my "R" I installed it yesterday myself. Was a simple installation (30 minutes), but on the MK6 you need to remove the centre vents above the radio to gain access to a good place for the GPS antenna.
Pluged it in and worked first up after entering the 4 digit code. Even though it came from an Australian ebay dealer (LED version) the unit was stuck in German language. Could not change the language till I loaded the navigation maps DVD.
It seems to have better sound features then the other unit. I would recommend buying a set of plastic trim removal tools either from Jaycar or ebay. Really a must for this sort of work.

Also, for some reason my unit did not require any coding at all, all the steering wheel controls and MFD worked straight away. Even the Mute button on the wheel mutes the audio. There have been other posts where "mute" did not seem to work even from the factory install.

Happy to answer any questions from DIY's

Chris
P.S. Does anybody know what the "Acoustic Feedback" setting does.

Steve
21-01-2011, 06:44 PM
In my experience with a RCD510 and an iPod, the "Acoustic Feedback" option/setting actually amplifies the original 'signal' from the media source. In regard to the iPod, I had to reduce the setting, because the quality of the music depreciated when the AF setting was increased.

Hope that helps

onpole01
21-01-2011, 07:28 PM
Mate I have and RNS510 factory fitted and Kufatec BT dealer fitted with mic. Any voice commands will require a mic but I am not 100% sure on the factory fitted BT, I am sure someone knows more about that than I. I can say that the Kufatec is somewhat integrated, you can control the radio, cd etc e.g. you can say "track 5" and it wil go to track 5 (mostly). the sat nav is another story though. Only speaking for the Kufatec, you can use voice commands to open the sat nav then all the way to 'new destination' but that's as far as it goes, you then have to use your digits! However there are several youtube clips showing the ability to say the address-when I asked my dealer abiut this his response was-NFI

When aI asked the com[any that came to fix my Kufatec (software upgrade for MFD-still unresolved) he also had NFI. So I am hoping one day we'll all know whether what I have seen on YT is possible here.

So, you would have to imagine that if the BT is factory fitted as is the rns510 I'm assuming from your post, that surely factory fitted would equal complete integration. If the kufatec works surely both items factory fitted woud be integrated as well???

Cheers




Local VW place here in Canberra quoted me $110 over the phone. Said it about an hours work, needed to install it whack the antenna in a good place and just do some computer recoding and it would be done. He did say if I was going to supply the unit to make sure it was a genuine VW one as they have had problems with the cheap copies. Doesn't help over in WA obviously but just wanted to give you an idea of the price.

EDIT: Also with voice control of the RNS510 if you have factory fitted Bluetooth can you get it to use the same microphone for RNS voice command? Googled it quite a bit but keep turning up blanks, seems a lot of sites say you need to purchase a mic for the RNS510 but make no mention if the bluetooth mic would work.

ozmale
21-01-2011, 08:15 PM
In my experience with a RCD510 and an iPod, the "Acoustic Feedback" option/setting actually amplifies the original 'signal' from the media source. In regard to the iPod, I had to reduce the setting, because the quality of the music depreciated when the AF setting was increased.

Hope that helps

All my music plays from an SD card. So If I understand you correctly if will have no affect for me. It certainly seems to do nothing.

Chris

Omee
21-01-2011, 09:12 PM
Guys,
I bought my RNS510 off ebay about a month before I go my "R" I installed it yesterday myself. Was a simple installation (30 minutes), but on the MK6 you need to remove the centre vents above the radio to gain access to a good place for the GPS antenna.
Pluged it in and worked first up after entering the 4 digit code. Even though it came from an Australian ebay dealer (LED version) the unit was stuck in German language. Could not change the language till I loaded the navigation maps DVD.
It seems to have better sound features then the other unit. I would recommend buying a set of plastic trim removal tools either from Jaycar or ebay. Really a must for this sort of work.

Also, for some reason my unit did not require any coding at all, all the steering wheel controls and MFD worked straight away. Even the Mute button on the wheel mutes the audio. There have been other posts where "mute" did not seem to work even from the factory install.

Happy to answer any questions from DIY's

Chris
P.S. Does anybody know what the "Acoustic Feedback" setting does.

May I ask for the link of where you bought it from ?

ozmale
22-01-2011, 08:07 PM
May I ask for the link of where you bought it from ?

I bought it from "cheap-sale2010" user on ebay had a 100% good feed back but I have noticed he is no longer a registered user. Dont know why.

Chris

nath_mk6
22-01-2011, 08:43 PM
these are the guys I bought off, good service and they seem to have the Ver B std C and the LED C so depending on what car you have they should be able to help.

http://shop.ebay.com.au/sat_nav_online/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

Riley
22-01-2011, 08:54 PM
OK! So about an hour ago I thought I would walk to my local Jaycar dealer and pick up some appropriate tools for the job, which I did for $20.00.

On coming home I stopped at the car to have a look at how easy the stereo and mount area would disassemble with the new tools. 25 minutes later the new DNS-510 was installed and the sat nav has been checked and working. It really was as easy as everybody has been saying.

I am not sure how it worked previously but the buttons on the steering wheel do not control the volume on the stereo when the ignition is not on, which was a bit of a concern. However, when I started it up for a drive they worked as usual. All buttons did their job accordingly. Maybe these buttons do not work when only listening to the radio. You may want to check this out.

The other problem that I thought might be an issue was that the Map was not registering on the system. However I drove to the shop and when I came back 10 minutes later it had started and was ready to go. I gather it takes some time to register the maps and find it's location. Inserted my first address and away it went. Very nice!

Now, I gather it is too early to tell but the system seems to working properly and for those of you who are interested I purchased mine from eBay from a company/individual in Lithuania, Used Parts Specialists. 99% satisfation and about to add mine. The delivery took a little longer than 3-4 days but only 2-3 days more. Make him an offer, I got mine for under approx $950 which included delivery. In fact I see he may have reduced his price a little, but still make an offer. Only time will tell. Version C (LED Screen) is what I got for that price. Be warned he is selling the Version B for a bit cheaper.

So for what VW quoted $2500 to install I have done for under $1000.

Prior to this I had no experience in this type of installation.

Willing to assist any installs in the Perth area.

ozmale
22-01-2011, 09:06 PM
OK! So about an hour ago I thought I would walk to my local Jaycar dealer and pick up some appropriate tools for the job, which I did for $20.00.

The other problem that I thought might be an issue was that the Map was not registering on the system. However I drove to the shop and when I came back 10 minutes later it had started and was ready to go. I gather it takes some time to register the maps and find it's location. Inserted my first address and away it went. Very nice!
.


I am deeply concerned about all this walking going on. Are you trying to save the world LOL.

Mine took a while to find a location the first time. I installed the CD and it was loading. 30 minutes lateer I could not get a location. I pressed the eject button, it said maps are still loading a validating. When it finished it worked perfectly. I then read the book which said the loading of the maps can take up to an hour.
Thus all of this is normal.

Chris

Riley
22-01-2011, 09:08 PM
I am deeply concerned about all this walking going on. Are you trying to save the world LOL.

LOL! I thought the same after I wrote it, wondered if anybody would pick up on that?

It is only 50 metres from where I live, if that.

ozmale
22-01-2011, 09:13 PM
LOL! I thought the same after I wrote it, wondered if anybody would pick up on that?

It is only 50 metres from where I live, if that.

Actually I walked to my Jaycar once and its 5ks away.
You got your tools cheaper than I, I think I payed $25 from Jaycar, but they are a must have tool set.

Chris

interested_party
25-01-2011, 10:23 PM
OK! So about an hour ago I thought I would walk to my local Jaycar dealer and pick up some appropriate tools for the job, which I did for $20.00.

On coming home I stopped at the car to have a look at how easy the stereo and mount area would disassemble with the new tools. 25 minutes later the new DNS-510 was installed and the sat nav has been checked and working. It really was as easy as everybody has been saying.

I am not sure how it worked previously but the buttons on the steering wheel do not control the volume on the stereo when the ignition is not on, which was a bit of a concern. However, when I started it up for a drive they worked as usual. All buttons did their job accordingly. Maybe these buttons do not work when only listening to the radio. You may want to check this out.

The other problem that I thought might be an issue was that the Map was not registering on the system. However I drove to the shop and when I came back 10 minutes later it had started and was ready to go. I gather it takes some time to register the maps and find it's location. Inserted my first address and away it went. Very nice!

Now, I gather it is too early to tell but the system seems to working properly and for those of you who are interested I purchased mine from eBay from a company/individual in Lithuania, Used Parts Specialists. 99% satisfation and about to add mine. The delivery took a little longer than 3-4 days but only 2-3 days more. Make him an offer, I got mine for under approx $950 which included delivery. In fact I see he may have reduced his price a little, but still make an offer. Only time will tell. Version C (LED Screen) is what I got for that price. Be warned he is selling the Version B for a bit cheaper.

So for what VW quoted $2500 to install I have done for under $1000.

Prior to this I had no experience in this type of installation.

Willing to assist any installs in the Perth area.

Good to hear it worked out well. I'm thinking of heading down this path with my wife's new 103 TDI wagon (I know, not a real Mk VI and made in Mexico). You wrote previously something about "vagcom updates". Did you do that?

Omee
25-01-2011, 10:48 PM
I bought it from "cheap-sale2010" user on ebay had a 100% good feed back but I have noticed he is no longer a registered user. Dont know why.

Chris

Thanks mate

Riley
26-01-2011, 12:44 AM
Good to hear it worked out well. I'm thinking of heading down this path with my wife's new 103 TDI wagon (I know, not a real Mk VI and made in Mexico). You wrote previously something about "vagcom updates". Did you do that?

I have not done anything to it just at the moment, as I have not fully been through the manual, but I believe that Ozmale has made a few adjustments to his.

At the moment I have the full use of the functions I need and am happy with that.

Prodigy
29-01-2011, 07:03 AM
Just bought an RNS 510 from the same place as Riley.

Hopefully will be here in the next week or so, can't wait. :)

Big thanks to Riley & Chris (ozmale) for your assistance with regards to purchasing a unit.

Riley
01-02-2011, 02:02 AM
No problems Darren, Hope it works out as well as mine. PM when you get it in and will meet you to give you the tools.

Rescue 26
01-02-2011, 02:19 PM
Riley, I bought my unit from the same seller in Lithuania for around the same price and have had no problems with it after 2 months of use. I haven't bothered with the VAG COM coding yet.

Riley
01-02-2011, 02:29 PM
Riley, I bought my unit from the same seller in Lithuania for around the same price and have had no problems with it after 2 months of use. I haven't bothered with the VAG COM coding yet.

Cheers,

Yeh! I have found no real reason for the coding either. So far So good.

Prodigy
01-02-2011, 04:52 PM
Riley, I bought my unit from the same seller in Lithuania for around the same price and have had no problems with it after 2 months of use. I haven't bothered with the VAG COM coding yet.


Cheers,

Yeh! I have found no real reason for the coding either. So far So good.

So the good news is it sound's like most of the stuff should work straight away, so what minor things are we missing out on that would need re-coding?

Mr_Bob
01-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Do you guys get the mfd display for your satnav without vagcom coding?

Riley
01-02-2011, 09:36 PM
Do you guys get the mfd display for your satnav without vagcom coding?

Yes!

I think Ozmale said something about a compass which can be put on the MFD using the coding. The RNS-510 has it's own when you split the screen so no need just yet. Ozmale would know more about this than I.

Prodigy
04-02-2011, 02:54 PM
So my RNS 510 unit arrived today. Once it's installed how do i confirm it's got the latest version software and maps etc?
It states on the unit that it was manufactured October 2010 so i assume it should be up to date but want to check anyways.

mk5
04-02-2011, 03:40 PM
i have the disk darren

Prodigy
04-02-2011, 04:47 PM
i have the disk darren

Thanks Kristian, but i have a copy of the V3 maps already on it's way, just wondered how i could tell what is installed already.

As for the software just looking at the unit again i think i have answered part of my own question, there is a sticker on it that says HW 42 & SW 2720 which i'm guessing is the latest hard/software versions available at the moment.

ozmale
04-02-2011, 05:47 PM
Thanks Kristian, but i have a copy of the V3 maps already on it's way, just wondered how i could tell what is installed already.

As for the software just looking at the unit again i think i have answered part of my own question, there is a sticker on it that says HW 42 & SW 2720 which i'm guessing is the latest hard/software versions available at the moment.

You will know if you have the latest maps and I suspect you will have. just inset the DVD and it will automatically update if necessary.

My build date is the same but i seem to have firmware 2726, i doubt there is any difference.

Chris

Prodigy
05-02-2011, 10:17 PM
Fitted my RNS 510 unit today (Thankyou Riley for your assistance) and i have a few questions:

1. I am aware the unit stays on for a period of time once the key is removed however after leaving mine for approx 40mins i was still able to turn the unit on without inserting a key, is that normal? (this was done without opening a door, done by just leaning in)
2. On the initial boot up screen where it says welcome to VW it also says sound by Dynaudio. I don't have Dynaudio so does that mean the unit is setup to play through a dynaudio system? (it may just be me but when playing songs through my ipod the sound doesn't seem quite as good as my RCD510)
3. Is there a way while using the Nav to get the chick to say the street names instead of 'turn left now' and also to display the speed limit on the street you are traveling on.
4 Finally, what the hell does the 'star' button actually do? i pressed it and nothing happens...

That's all the questions i have at this stage :-)

CJ9999
05-02-2011, 10:46 PM
Darren,

1. Yes that is normal - you can turn it on at any time without the key - but it will turn off again after some time.
2. I presume it is set up for Dynaudio (which I have).
3. Don't think so.
4. Star button is voice control - same as voice control button on the steering wheel.

ozmale
05-02-2011, 10:57 PM
Fitted my RNS 510 unit today (Thankyou Riley for your assistance) and i have a few questions:

1. I am aware the unit stays on for a period of time once the key is removed however after leaving mine for approx 40mins i was still able to turn the unit on without inserting a key, is that normal? (this was done without opening a door, done by just leaning in)
2. On the initial boot up screen where it says welcome to VW it also says sound by Dynaudio. I don't have Dynaudio so does that mean the unit is setup to play through a dynaudio system? (it may just be me but when playing songs through my ipod the sound doesn't seem quite as good as my RCD510)
3. Is there a way while using the Nav to get the chick to say the street names instead of 'turn left now' and also to display the speed limit on the street you are traveling on.
4 Finally, what the hell does the 'star' button actually do? i pressed it and nothing happens...

That's all the questions i have at this stage :-)

Darren

Your unit is coded for Dynaudio if it has that in the welcome screen. If that is the case you really should not use it till it is recoded for non Dynaudio or high level outputs. Currently it is set for low level outputs trying to drive speakers and there is a chance of damaging the unit.

Apparently the very latest firmware does display the current speed limit in the top right corner of the display. I do not have the latest firmware and am always reluctant to install the latest. Happy to wait for a while.

Chris

Prodigy
05-02-2011, 11:10 PM
Thanks for your responses guys,

CJ9999 (Chris) with regards to the unit power staying on i have read that the unit receives power once the door has been opened, i have been trying to turn it on without opening the door and it still turns on, so you think this is still ok?

Ozmale (Chris) Mmm that's what i was afraid of..:( I'm going to have to put a shout out for someone locally with a VCDS quick smart.

mk5
05-02-2011, 11:12 PM
darren mine does the same dont worry

Prodigy
05-02-2011, 11:15 PM
darren mine does the same dont worry

Which does yours do Kristian, the powering on or the Dynaudio?

ozmale
05-02-2011, 11:22 PM
darren mine does the same dont worry

It was not my intention to panic you but you do need to get it fixed. Currently you are not getting the full sound fidelity out of your unit. E.G.
The volume line being just above half way is enough to blow you out of the car.

Chris

Prodigy
05-02-2011, 11:24 PM
It was not my intention to panic you but you do need to get it fixed. Currently you are not getting the full sound fidelity out of your unit. E.G.
The volume line being just above half way is enough to blow you out of the car.

Chris

I'm finding that i have to turn the sound up louder to get the same output as i did on the RCD.

CJ9999
06-02-2011, 12:09 AM
Thanks for your responses guys,

CJ9999 (Chris) with regards to the unit power staying on i have read that the unit receives power once the door has been opened, i have been trying to turn it on without opening the door and it still turns on, so you think this is still ok?

Yes. My factory one does the same.

Prodigy
06-02-2011, 12:16 AM
Yes. My factory one does the same.

Sweet, thanks mate. Just the Dynaudio issue to sort out then.

mk5
06-02-2011, 05:11 AM
yeah the powering darren, they are all like that

ozmale
06-02-2011, 08:27 AM
Guys,
technologically this is what happening. In the unit as in all electronic amplifiers the amp section consists of two major parts the Pre amp out , usually identified by RCA plugs in a normal after market Head unit. And the the power amp, the 20 or more watts output mosfet component designed to drive low impedance high current devices like speakers, 4 ohms. The Pre amps are designed to drive high impedance devices like other amplifiers (1000 ohms or higher).

Because the RNS510 uses the same physical output wires (the speaker wires) for low level and high level output internally there is an electronic switch that switches the preamp to output to the speakers wires to go to the Dynaudio amp or the main Amp power amp output to the speaker wires (no Dynaudio).

So you can see if you leave it coded to Dynaudio the pre amps are driving their little transistors off to drive your huge speakers and eventually they will give up the ghost.

Chris

Prodigy
07-02-2011, 02:40 PM
I have done a bit of research and i think this is basically what you are saying however i am not too familiar with the ins and outs of audio talk so i may be completly wrong. Apparently if an amp is fitted (dynaudio) the output stage power is 12db (which i am guessing the unit is set to now as the volume levels are greatly reduced compared to the RCD510). The output level needs to be changed to 26db via VCDS. Does this sound right?

Chris, do you have any idea how to change these settings in VCDS.

ozmale
07-02-2011, 04:18 PM
I have done a bit of research and i think this is basically what you are saying however i am not too familiar with the ins and outs of audio talk so i may be completly wrong. Apparently if an amp is fitted (dynaudio) the output stage power is 12db (which i am guessing the unit is set to now as the volume levels are greatly reduced compared to the RCD510). The output level needs to be changed to 26db via VCDS. Does this sound right?

Chris, do you have any idea how to change these settings in VCDS.

Darren,

You are correct about the 26db.

I know how to make the changes if I am told what changes to make. (now that is a dumb statement)

If you go to this link
RNS510 factory amp coding (http://www.my-gti.com/1411)

It shows you how to code the RNS510 to take the Dynaudio amp if you received a unit that was coded for no ext power amp. You should should be able to look at the old settings in the photos and change yours back to them.

Contact a guy on here called "CAM" (that is his user name) he helped my with a bit of navigation coding and is very knowledgeable about coding etc and also very helpful.
If he cannot help you I would imagine I can simply go into the coding section of my unit and take a note of the values, then you just need to set yours the same.

Chris

Prodigy
07-02-2011, 05:54 PM
Darren,

You are correct about the 26db.

I know how to make the changes if I am told what changes to make. (now that is a dumb statement)

If you go to this link
RNS510 factory amp coding (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?2979-RNS510-Sat-Nav-Golf-R/page6)

It shows you how to code the RNS510 to take the Dynaudio amp if you received a unit that was coded for no ext power amp. You should should be able to look at the old settings in the photos and change yours back to them.

Contact a guy on here called "CAM" (that is his user name) he helped my with a bit of navigation coding and is very knowledgeable about coding etc and also very helpful.
If he cannot help you I would imagine I can simply go into the coding section of my unit and take a note of the values, then you just need to set yours the same.

Chris

Chris, the link seems to just take me back to this thread.:)

Am still interested to see what the factory settings are however i found someone with a VCDS who was happy to have a crack and try to fix it.
The good news is all seems to be working properly now (even have the nav directions on the MFD now which are brilliant!!)
My only issue is that although all seems to be working there are a few settings that we made that i want to confirm that we chose the correct options as there were a couple of speaker settings that we weren't sure of.

In 37 Navigation - coding we chose:

Byte 0 - Bit 1 - CD-Changer, IPOD/USB Connection Monitoring Active.
Bit 2 - AUX - Input connection Monitoring active.
Byte 1 - 00 - Sound system not installed (this is what seemed to fix the issues)
Byte 2 - 00 - Sound system (active speakers) This is the main one i'm not sure about, should it be 04 - Speaker Channels (front & rear)?
Byte 4 - 04 - Speaker monitoring - front & rear active
Byte 5 - 00 - Equalization: Linear.

Does all this sound correct?

On a side note we also ticked an option for Digital Radio although not sure what that will do.

ozmale
07-02-2011, 06:17 PM
Link fixed

Yes those setting look right to me.

Was not aware of the Digital radio setting be curious as to what it does.

Chris

ozmale
07-02-2011, 08:43 PM
My coding for non Dynaudio is

Nav 73 Coding 07

is
04,00,02,04,00,00,A0,00

Chris

Prodigy
07-02-2011, 09:56 PM
My coding for non Dynaudio is

Nav 73 Coding 07

is
04,00,02,04,00,00,A0,00

Chris

Thanks for that Chris.
Seems the same as mine apart from Byte 2 which is the one i was concerned about. The thing that has me stumped though is if yours is set to 02 that is for '2 speaker Channels (front only)' which doesn't sound right to me.

ozmale
07-02-2011, 10:08 PM
Thanks for that Chris.
Seems the same as mine apart from Byte 2 which is the one i was concerned about. The thing that has me stumped though is if yours is set to 02 that is for '2 speaker Channels (front only)' which doesn't sound right to me.

Just been back and checked it. I missed a byte


it is

04,00,04,02,04,00,00,A0,00

Chris

Prodigy
07-02-2011, 10:12 PM
I've just pm'd Cam, hopefully he can shed some light on it for us.:)

Prodigy
08-02-2011, 07:58 PM
Just been back and checked it. I missed a byte


it is

04,00,04,02,04,00,00,A0,00

Chris

Cool, that makes more sense now you've added the extra Byte, I've now changed my Byte 2 from 00 to 04 the same as yours.

Mine now reads 06,00,04,00,04,00,00,A0,00 so pretty similar to your set up.

Prodigy
09-02-2011, 01:08 PM
Ok guys, sorry about all the questions but hopefully these will be my last ones regarding my new RNS unit :

I have noticed that when the unit is switched on after an extended period of time it doesn't seem to remember the last source i was listening to. ie when the vehicle was turned off i was listening to the IPod, on startup the radio comes on. Any ideas?

Was thinking maybe i should reboot the unit and see if that helps but can't seem to get it to reboot.
Is it <> & * together on the new LED units?

ozmale
09-02-2011, 01:26 PM
Mine does seem to remember everything. I play mostly from SD card and it remembers mid track just fine. It could need rebooting. I use the vag-com to activate the hidden menu which does require rebooting.

http://www.my-gti.com/1200/accessing-the-setup-menu-on-rns-510-head-units-with-firmware-version-2660-2662-2664-2666-2668

Chris

Prodigy
09-02-2011, 01:43 PM
Mine does seem to remember everything. I play mostly from SD card and it remembers mid track just fine. It could need rebooting. I use the vag-com to activate the hidden menu which does require rebooting.

http://www.my-gti.com/1200/accessing-the-setup-menu-on-rns-510-head-units-with-firmware-version-2660-2662-2664-2666-2668

Chris

Yeah i'll see how it goes with a different source other than the IPOD. It starts from the same spot in the song ok, it's just the actual source it's not recalling.
I should of activated the hidden menu when i went back and changed the speaker settings yesterday, oh well too late now.

edit: Seems to be working ok now, just jumped in the car and unit played straight from the IPOD, panic over.

rj9
14-02-2011, 11:56 PM
Hi Guys,

Just bought my golf r and am absolutely stoked! I was hoping I could get some assistance and clarification on the following:

1) A reliable source that I can buy the GPS unit from.

2) I currently have factory bluetooth and mdi installed in the car. Will this be compatible when I install my new unit?

Would appreciate your assistance guys, as I am a total newbie :)

thanks in advance.

Prodigy
15-02-2011, 02:41 AM
Hi Guys,

Just bought my golf r and am absolutely stoked! I was hoping I could get some assistance and clarification on the following:

1) A reliable source that I can buy the GPS unit from.

2) I currently have factory bluetooth and mdi installed in the car. Will this be compatible when I install my new unit?

Would appreciate your assistance guys, as I am a total newbie :)

thanks in advance.

Hi mate, congrats on your R purchase.

A few of us now have purchased our RNS 510 units off ebay from a seller in Lithuania and we all seem pretty happy with our products, plus you can get the latest Version C unit with LED screen for under $1k.

You shouldn't have any issue's with your bluetooth or MDI. Worse case scenario is that you may need to get some coding done via VCDS to get some of the Nav features to work as i had to.

rj9
15-02-2011, 12:09 PM
Thanks a lot prodigy.

Are u able to recommend me a seller on ebay? Are u having any issues with the signal quality from the gps?

How hard is the coding and also, does it matter whether the car has dynaudio or not? My car is not fitted with dynaudio.


Would apprecoate your assistance!

ozmale
15-02-2011, 12:27 PM
Dynaudio, or absence off is not a problem just a matter of coding. I do not have dynaudio. But have added a sub, sounds terrific.

Chris

Romp
15-02-2011, 02:08 PM
im thinking of getting the RNS510 too .. just want to check - i currently have digital radio on my MY11... does the RNS have digital too?

Cheers

Prodigy
15-02-2011, 02:19 PM
Thanks a lot prodigy.

Are u able to recommend me a seller on ebay? Are u having any issues with the signal quality from the gps?

How hard is the coding and also, does it matter whether the car has dynaudio or not? My car is not fitted with dynaudio.


Would apprecoate your assistance!

I purchased mine from Used Parts Specialist on ebay, here is a bit more info in this post of Rileys:

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?2979-RNS510-Sat-Nav-Golf-R&p=76422&viewfull=1#post76422

No problem with the signal quality on the GPS, seems to always be locked onto satellites.

As for the coding it's not too hard and there is a lot of people on here who can assist you, but you have to find someone with access to VCDS. Mine when i received it was set up for Dynaudio but like you i don't have it so that's where most of my coding had to be changed, others have received them and they have required minimal or no coding.

rj9
15-02-2011, 09:36 PM
Hi mate, congrats on your R purchase.

A few of us now have purchased our RNS 510 units off ebay from a seller in Lithuania and we all seem pretty happy with our products, plus you can get the latest Version C unit with LED screen for under $1k.

You shouldn't have any issue's with your bluetooth or MDI. Worse case scenario is that you may need to get some coding done via VCDS to get some of the Nav features to work as i had to.

Prodigy,

I am unable to find any version C with LED screen for under 1k? I am looking on ebay. Is there any other places?

Would appreciate ur assistance!

Thanks!

Prodigy
15-02-2011, 10:31 PM
Prodigy,

I am unable to find any version C with LED screen for under 1k? I am looking on ebay. Is there any other places?

Would appreciate ur assistance!

Thanks!

This is where i got mine from :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-MFD3-RNS-510-passat-tiguan-golf-LED-star-C-RNS510-/220740014963?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3365215373

Even though it is advertised in GB pounds it also lists a price in AU $. He also states that he'll include V3 Aust maps.
He did have some listed specifically for Australian buyers but for some reason he only has the UK listings at the moment. Probably just send him an email to clarify he's still good to post to Australia.

Oh and make sure you negotiate a cheaper price with him than advertised.

jezx
17-02-2011, 12:01 AM
Just got one from ebay but with European maps - anyone in Melbourne have the maps DVD lying around? I'd be happy to pay for the privilege/your time if you're willing to lend a hand :)

ozmale
17-02-2011, 06:44 AM
Just got one from ebay but with European maps - anyone in Melbourne have the maps DVD lying around? I'd be happy to pay for the privilege/your time if you're willing to lend a hand :)

If you cant find anyone in melbourne with australian maps send me a PM I will give you some advice.

Chris

CJ9999
17-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Ok guys, sorry about all the questions but hopefully these will be my last ones regarding my new RNS unit :

I have noticed that when the unit is switched on after an extended period of time it doesn't seem to remember the last source i was listening to. ie when the vehicle was turned off i was listening to the IPod, on startup the radio comes on. Any ideas?

Was thinking maybe i should reboot the unit and see if that helps but can't seem to get it to reboot.
Is it & * together on the new LED units?

Mine also does this after a long period. I'm pretty sure it only happens when the iPod has shut down after a long time so the RNS can't connect with it straight away, so it defaults back to the radio. Doesn't happen with any other source. Don't think it's an issue with the RNS unit.

rj9
17-02-2011, 11:30 PM
Guys just a quick question.

I currently have the RCD 510 Premium 8 system in my R. What is the difference between this and the RND 210. I am about the purchase the RNS 510 from ebay and the only thing I am concerned about is whether or not my bluetooth and mdi will work with the new system. Any thoughts please?

DoubleC
13-05-2011, 10:28 PM
I just stuck one in my R today. Bluetooth, MDI and everything working ok. Even got rid of a glitch I had with the iPhone on the factory system.

Just remember to pull out all your CD's! Had to put my old unit back in to remove them. Idiot!

A Question though: I noticed driving and when the unit is turned off it looks like the screen is not fully off. The screen looks like it is powered and is grey coloured, not black when it is shut down fully. Any ideas??

Hyped
15-05-2011, 04:09 PM
I just stuck one in my R today. Bluetooth, MDI and everything working ok. Even got rid of a glitch I had with the iPhone on the factory system.

Is that factory fitted bluetooth? Did you go with the models from Lithuania?

Just ordered my new R (expecting delivery in 3-4 weeks) and wondering if retro-fitting the RNS-510 will stuff up the factory fit bluetooth and MDI??? I'm not too adverse to buying a coding cable and giving that a shot - but the less that needs to be done there the better :)

DoubleC
15-05-2011, 04:29 PM
Is that factory fitted bluetooth? Did you go with the models from Lithuania?

Just ordered my new R (expecting delivery in 3-4 weeks) and wondering if retro-fitting the RNS-510 will stuff up the factory fit bluetooth and MDI??? I'm not too adverse to buying a coding cable and giving that a shot - but the less that needs to be done there the better :)

Yep it was all factory. I bought it off a UK seller on ebay and paid $875 delivered. All seems to be working fine but need VAGCOM to enable MFD to display directions i think.

Hyped
15-05-2011, 05:05 PM
Thanks - appreciate it!

On another topic - anybody have instructions on loading custom POIs into the RNS 510 - this is my primary reason for wanting it - damn 'safety cameras'

Paulb
10-06-2011, 03:27 PM
On the question of DIY or custom install, I rang Derek at European Autotech today, and he quoted me $1999 for supply and fit of latest LED RNS510, even after mentioning this forum. Personally I find that a bit steep, so I might go for eBay and DIY! Only concern is the VAGCOM for MFD.

ozmale
10-06-2011, 07:21 PM
On the question of DIY or custom install, I rang Derek at European Autotech today, and he quoted me $1999 for supply and fit of latest LED RNS510, even after mentioning this forum. Personally I find that a bit steep, so I might go for eBay and DIY! Only concern is the VAGCOM for MFD.

I installed and coded "RJ9's" RNS-510 in his "R" last sunday at my place at Manly. Even with all the chatting only took an hour.

Chris

rj9
12-06-2011, 12:42 PM
Chris thanks a ton for that mate! Really appreciate it.