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MasterKevin
26-03-2010, 12:02 AM
Ok I Own a Mk6 Golf gti and i want to buy H&R Sway Bars.

The fronts come in 26mm and 28mm

and the rears come in 22mm and 24mm

whats the difference and why is the bigger one more expensive?

Also are they worth it? and should i go with APR or H&R Sway bars?

thanks in advance.

Justin Fox
26-03-2010, 08:33 AM
Great link John, that guy would be an asset on any forum!

I'm no sway bar dexpert (:lol:) but all modern sports cars have them and upgrading both front and rear sways at the same time (to thicker ones) is a smart move if you like cornering hard.

Your cars are already so well balanced and I cringe every time I read people upgrading just one sway. Aftermarket companies design their front and rear sways to work together so whatever you do be sure to buy both front and rear.

Unlike OEM sways most aftermarket ones are adjustable too.

PS: Reagrding which sways to buy, thicker or thinner: I've read cases of people with oversized sways breaking OEM end links so that's worth looking into (it might mean you have to upgrade some other parts).

MasterKevin
26-03-2010, 12:36 PM
Yeh according to WJ review im gonna order the 22mm/26mm H&R Sway bars.

Capercat
26-03-2010, 12:43 PM
Yeh according to WJ review im gonna order the 22mm/26mm H&R Sway bars.

Smart move, I had Big H&R's on my MKV GTI with PSS10's and found it was too stiff. 26/22mm is a good compromise.

Frenchie
26-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Lets hope James ( has been invited ) comes on and share his wisdom -

MasterKevin
26-03-2010, 03:57 PM
Lets hope James ( has been invited ) comes on and share his wisdom -

i agreee :P haha

Just got the Eibach Springs put in and my god is it different lol

saad
04-04-2010, 05:28 PM
So 22/26 is the consenus. Thats what ill get too then. Wonder what the APR ones I like, as my dealer has some in stock atm

Capercat
04-04-2010, 05:30 PM
Are APR sways hollow? I'll be trying to go solid sways if possible.

Sammy
31-08-2010, 10:33 AM
So i've got the whiteline big swaybars....

the front one groans and squeaks, should i swap the front for a smaller one?

i-vtec
31-08-2010, 11:12 AM
So i've got the whiteline big swaybars....

the front one groans and squeaks, should i swap the front for a smaller one?

i read the with the whiteline swaybars people use the h&r bushes to get rid of the squeaks

Sammy
31-08-2010, 11:57 AM
i read the with the whiteline swaybars people use the h&r bushes to get rid of the squeaks

where can i get some H&R bushes?

Jig
31-08-2010, 11:58 AM
i read the with the whiteline swaybars people use the h&r bushes to get rid of the squeaks

Correct. You can buy the H&R sway bushes separately to get rid of the noise.

Sammy
31-08-2010, 12:12 PM
Correct. You can buy the H&R sway bushes separately to get rid of the noise.

Does anyone have contacts for a H&R dealer? online or otherwise?

Jig
31-08-2010, 03:06 PM
I get my H&R stuff from performalink.com out of NZ. Speak to Mike.

AP
31-08-2010, 07:31 PM
City Performance are H&R dealers!


Does anyone have contacts for a H&R dealer? online or otherwise?

Sammy
31-08-2010, 10:58 PM
City Performance are H&R dealers!

Thanks AP... i'll give them a call.

tinaflux
16-09-2010, 06:05 PM
Hi. Is it advisable to buy sway bar links online? I have a mid 90 golf. I am going to make it as a project car, and now I am trying to find a sway bar bushes because I will replace the old ones.

Jig
16-09-2010, 06:14 PM
Hi. Is it advisable to buy sway bar links online? I have a mid 90 golf. I am going to make it as a project car, and now I am trying to find a sway bar bushes because I will replace the old ones.

Welcome to the forum Katrina. When you say sway bar links are you referring to the bushes where the sway bars connect to and then screwed onto the chassis of the car? If yes, I dont see why not for as long as the internet shop you are buying from is a reputable, tried and tested and know 100% they are not there to rip you off.

If you are referring to the Sway Bars themselves, same answer. Just make sure you know the internet shop you are getting them from.

funny
17-09-2010, 01:48 AM
Gerard at GC Corp sold me my rear bar. He might have competitive prices but don't know if it is in stock.

I just have the rear on the Mk5, but set to soft. I found hard a bit twitchy if you were lazy and trail brake hard or have funny roundabouts (esp in the wet). Soft works great and comes closer to what the Mk6 have as stock (bigger rear bar than Mk5).
Sure, it might not have the balance of doing both but is a cheaper option that is good bang for your buck.

Once i get my act together to put the SHS in, it should work even better balance wise.

GregoInc
03-03-2012, 08:49 AM
Folks,

I'm going to jump start this thread in the hopes I can get some good advice... I'm thinking of putting sway bars on my R.

BUT, I've heard several stories about the complexity of replacing the front sway bar on the Golf MKVI and the need to have it done by someone that has half a clue. This info has put me off replacing the front bar, however some folks have commented that it's unwise to replace just the rear bar.

Hopefully some of you will share your thoughts and give me some advice... So far I've been looking at H&R and Whiteline products. Keen to go ahead, but want to do it with my eyes wide open.

Thanks, Mark

Sammy
03-03-2012, 09:33 AM
Mark,

According to H&R it is best to change both bars at the same time. And they are also supposed to run on the same setting.

The front bar is difficult to change, you need to drop the subframe. You'll need an alignment after it.

dev17a
03-03-2012, 10:34 AM
i have been running on the rear 22mm H&R and front stock for a while....

but i also have PSS10 adjustments to play with for oversteer / understeer / neutral. i'm currently on PSS10 setting 5 front and rear and found the cornering is sharper. have not yet understeered on both Lakeside track and Mt Tambourine twisties (could mean i need to drive harder!!)

but it's a gti..

will get the front installed sometimes this year ;-)

73landau
03-03-2012, 11:03 AM
Sway bars are sometimes misunderstood items.
If your car oversteers, you need to stiffen the front or soften the rear. If you understeer you need to stiffen the rear or soften the front. If your car rolls through a corner but is neutral, then both bars can be stiffened. If you make it too stiff all round, then you can set the car up to tripping over (rollover) with a pothole etc.
Making a front drive car too stiff at the front can lead to lifting a wheel and loosing drive.
It is a science to get everything right as your selection of shocks and springs also come into it. If you can get an opinion from a professional driver(track/rally), then you will get a better car that will be safer.

DBP
03-03-2012, 01:22 PM
So squaeks are common with the Whiteline sways....??

_gti
03-03-2012, 01:44 PM
Folks,

I'm going to jump start this thread in the hopes I can get some good advice... I'm thinking of putting sway bars on my R.

BUT, I've heard several stories about the complexity of replacing the front sway bar on the Golf MKVI and the need to have it done by someone that has half a clue. This info has put me off replacing the front bar, however some folks have commented that it's unwise to replace just the rear bar.

Hopefully some of you will share your thoughts and give me some advice... So far I've been looking at H&R and Whiteline products. Keen to go ahead, but want to do it with my eyes wide open.

Thanks, Mark


you'll be surprised how much of a difference sway bars make, best to do both, then again it dosent hurt to just do the rears, the fronts are always missions to do but the rears can be done at home with some know how and correct tools. Also have you thought of chassis strengthing items such as the unibrace?

AC_R
06-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Folks,

I'm going to jump start this thread in the hopes I can get some good advice... I'm thinking of putting sway bars on my R.

BUT, I've heard several stories about the complexity of replacing the front sway bar on the Golf MKVI and the need to have it done by someone that has half a clue. This info has put me off replacing the front bar, however some folks have commented that it's unwise to replace just the rear bar.

Hopefully some of you will share your thoughts and give me some advice... So far I've been looking at H&R and Whiteline products. Keen to go ahead, but want to do it with my eyes wide open.

Thanks, Mark

Yep, I am keen on this too. Looking for both f & r with H&R so any recommendation would be much appreciated. Also it there is a GB that would be awesome too..