Golf R

[nath_mk6]

For those interested in the R and that havent already seen this.

http://www.ausmotive.com/2010/03/24/volkswagen-golf-r-docks-down-under.htmlhttp://www.ausmotive.com/2010/03/24/volkswagen-golf-r-docks-down-under.html

Golf R spotted in Fremantle >D

Heres some of the info from the article.

Yesterday, AUSmotive received an anonymous tip revealing initial specification details for the Golf R. Keep in mind these spec could change before the official Australian launch. Prospective owners of the hottest Golf sold in Australia should not expect the car to come standard with leather seats. Instead the Kyalami/San Remo black/grey fabric combination (shown above) will be the entry level spec, with Recaro-style micro-fibre and leather race buckets to be a $5000+ option. Regular leather seats can also be specced for $3300.

It is a little difficult to tell from the images, but the wheels on the car at Fremantle may very well be optional 19″ Talladega alloys in black. Regular silver colouring will also be available in this sizing. Other optional specification will include Adaptive Chassis Control ($1500), premium Dynaudio($1300) and Bluetooth (assume regular Volkswagen accessory pricing).

Bi-xenon headlights will be included as standard for Australian spec Golf R models. As will 18″ Talladega alloy wheels, front and rear parking sensors, metallic paint, LED rear lights and LED daytime-running lights. R-model specific trim and a three-spoke steering wheel will also be included.

As expected, Australia’s designation as warm climate country dictates the Golf R engine will be detuned like the Audi S3, which uses the same 2.0 litre turbocharged four cylinder. That means power and torque numbers will be capped to 188kW/330Nm (down from European-spec numbers of 195kW/350Nm).

The Golf R will be available in five colours; Rising Blue Pearl Effect, Candy White (as pictured above), Reflex Silver Metallic, United Grey Metallic and Deep Black Pearl Effect.

No word on pricing yet, however, with no leather seats as standard it would seem reasonable to suggest that Volkswagen will target a mid-50K price range. This pricing was hinted at in February when Karl Gehling, Volkswagen Australia General Manager Press and PR, spoke with carsales.com.au.

If mid-50s pricing does prove correct, that will see the Golf R undercut its Audi stabelmate by some $10,000. Volkswagen could be on to a massive sales hit here. Let’s wait and see!

Expected entry level spec for Australian delivered Golf R models*

•Engine type: 4 cylinder inline direct injection turbocharged (TSI) petrol engine
•Displacement: 2.0 Litre/1984 cm³
•Max. power: 188 kW @ 6000 rpm
•Max. torque: 330 Nm @ 2400 – 5200 rpm
•Acceleration: 5.9 seconds 0-100km/h (manual); 5.7 seconds 0-100km/h (DSG)
•Fuel consumption: 8.7L/100km, combined (manual and DSG)
•Front, driver’s knee, front side and curtain airbags, front & rear (7)
•ABS, EDL, ASR, ESP, Brake Assist and Hill Start Assist (HSA) (with DSG)
•4MOTION all wheel drive
•Lowered sports suspension
•R body styling with high gloss black highlights
•Gloss, Metallic or Pearl Effect paint finish
•Anti-theft alarm system
•Parking distance sensors, front and rear with Optical Parking System (OPS)
•18“ Talladega alloy wheels (4)
•Low tyre pressure indicator
•Cruise control
•Multi-Function Display (MFD Plus)
•Dual zone automatic climate control air conditioning
•Multi-function leather steering wheel with gearshift paddles (with DSG)
•Front and rear centre armrests
•RCD510 6 disc CD changer with touch screen, SD card slot and auxiliary input audio socket
•‘Silver lane’ decorative trim and aluminium pedals
•Front R Top sports seats with height and lumbar adjustment
•Kyalami/San Remo cloth/mirco fibre combination upholstery
•Remote central locking, power windows and power/heated door mirrors
•Rain sensing wipers and automatically dimming rear-view mirror
•Bi-Xenon headlights with dynamic cornering lights, headlight washers and automatic self levelling
•Automatic headlights and coming/leaving home function
•LED strip mounted in front bumper and LED taillights in dark tinted housing
•Dark tinted rear side and rear window glass, 65% light absorbing
•Aluminium door sill strips (front) with R logo

Expected optional equipment*

•Electric glass sunroof
•RNS510 satellite navigation system
•Dynaudio 300W premium audio system
•RNS510 with Dynaudio 300W premium audio
•Media Device Interface (MDI)
•Rear View Camera (RVC)
•Adaptive chassis control
•Vienna leather appointed upholstery
•Micro fibre/leather racing style front seats
•Electrically adjustable driver‘s seat (with leather seats only)
•Talladega 19″ alloy wheels in SILVER
•Talladega 19″ alloy wheels in BLACK
*Subject to official confirmation

[Pharkus]

It's not really maintaining or less than the price of the outgoing R32 if leather as an option is $3k. Unless of course list price is $52k.

[AP]

Nice it's the vw golf S3.. It should of atleast had the 5 pot motor like ttrs,
Now it's just a 4motion gti..
Bring back the v6.

[Cam]

The tinted tails look sexy.
You should tint your's tails Nath.
:)

[Capercat]

Electric glass sunroof
RNS510 with Dynaudio 300W premium audio
Rear View Camera (RVC)
Adaptive chassis control
Vienna leather appointed upholstery
DSG

I think I will have to add $13,000 for this spec...

[Pharkus]

Electric glass sunroof
RNS510 with Dynaudio 300W premium audio
Rear View Camera (RVC)
Adaptive chassis control
Vienna leather appointed upholstery
DSG

I think I will have to add $13,000 for this spec...

Subtract the DSG and you have my preferred spec.

[Capercat]

I don't like DSG, but it will be a daily driver in Sydney traffic :(

[defaultx]

I really wanted an R but I can't live without the options which will push it out of the price bracket I wanted to stay in

[Pharkus]

Unless you bargain hard, any option that you do take up will cost you extra as you will likely be over the luxury car tax threshold.

[rennenhaus]

what happens when it's only available in a 5dr?

hmmmm

[10d]

what happens when it's only available in a 5dr?

hmmmm
Juicy!!!!

[rennenhaus]

http://www.ausmotive.com/2010/03/26/another-golf-r-spotted-on-australian-shores.html

[Paolo]

its calling you Ian hahah

[wilch]

I hope it comes in a 3dr version.

[Lima]

Good to see some AUSmotive plugs/links, thanks guys.

No 3dr R would/will suck balls!

[GBJ-R32]

Nice it's the vw golf S3.. It should of atleast had the 5 pot motor like ttrs,
Now it's just a 4motion gti..
Bring back the v6.

Amen +1 to bring back the V6

[defaultx]

Oooo if the R is in Sydney now and the boat just arrived..... that means my car should be on the same boat! :D :D :D

[Pharkus]

Amen +1 to bring back the V6

I can understand the focus on the environment and that turbo charged cars provide more power versus CO2 output. But, given that the R is a car manufactured in a limited run and not mainstream I would have thought that the TTRS motor would be an awesome next gen upgrade. Look forward to 2018 when it comes time to get a new R for me. Let us know when they are in the showroom for a testdrive.

[G-rig]

I can understand the focus on the environment and that turbo charged cars provide more power versus CO2 output. But, given that the R is a car manufactured in a limited run and not mainstream I would have thought that the TTRS motor would be an awesome next gen upgrade. Look forward to 2018 when it comes time to get a new R for me. Let us know when they are in the showroom for a testdrive.

I wouldn't call the mk5 R32 run of 1100 cars in AUS limited, unlike the MK4 R32 and Pirelli run of 200 and 400 perspectively, although they are adored by enthousiasts.

Not as much of a special car either when all these 18yo P-platers are driving them LOL.

Going to a turbo is really necessary to get the extra power to counteract the weight, as it's still not a light car.

Should stilll sound good with the DSG farts and an RSC exhaust.

[Rev 555]

Is it running a K04 Turbo or a variant?

[Pharkus]

I wouldn't call the mk5 R32 run of 1100 cars in AUS limited, unlike the MK4 R32 and Pirelli run of 200 and 400 perspectively, although they are adored by enthousiasts.

Not as much of a special car either when all these 18yo P-platers are driving them LOL.

Going to a turbo is really necessary to get the extra power to counteract the weight, as it's still not a light car.

Should stilll sound good with the DSG farts and an RSC exhaust.

Well I should put that another way. Ferraris output much more CO2 than your normal car. However, the number of Ferraris out there compared with your everyday car is pretty insignificant and normal owners of these cars do not drive all that much =) (Of course the P plater comment would probably even this up with their foot to the floor =P )

I guess with my next car I will miss the exhaust note the most. Heard an TTRS tear away the other day. Luckily I haven't heard the Capristo or Kreisseg in real life.

[Frenchie]

I am sure the TTRS 2.5lt engine will get handed down to VW down the track -

[G-rig]

Would probably be too expensive with that engine, but would be awesome.

[Tensixty6]

http://www.ausmotive.com/2010/03/26/another-golf-r-spotted-on-australian-shores.html

Ghastly wheels, IMO.

[G-rig]

Ghastly wheels, IMO.

Those could grow on you i think, they are a bit like the S5 & AMG wheels (but agree could be better, look a bit too complicated).

[chaddy]

Golf R video

http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-reviews/vw-golf-r-hothatch-thaws-the-cold-1257915.html

[saad]

I heard from a dealer that its only coming in 5 door....which means we could be getting the Scirocco R as well :)

There were rumours of an R25 GTI, not likely imo

[Jig]

[QUOTE= Luckily I haven't heard the Capristo or Kreisseg in real life.[/QUOTE]

We can arrange that Pharkus. Next time you plan to drive to Sydney or one of us driving down to Melbourne, we shall meet so that you can hear it in person.

[onpole01]

So does anyone think the R will be sub 60K drive away with no options? I'm Reading estimates from 52-59K.

thanks,

[Capercat]

We will have to wait & see.

[Pharkus]

We can arrange that Pharkus. Next time you plan to drive to Sydney or one of us driving down to Melbourne, we shall meet so that you can hear it in person.

Mmmmm...seriously, don't tempt me!!!

[M4RK0]

Mmmmm...seriously, don't tempt me!!!

You'll be like :eek: I want one now!!! LOL!

[AP]

So does anyone think the R will be sub 60K drive away with no options? I'm Reading estimates from 52-59K.

thanks,
Yeah it's going to hurt the S3 sales..
It's a good looking car, I was thinking of buying one and putting a turbo 3.2 in it.. Maybe one day!!!

[JohnA]

there was a review on it in this moths motor mag.
Was a good review.

I am seriously contemplating it now. I only just purchased the GTI 6, so thinking next year, pass it on to the wife and get the R for myself.

[visconti]

Golf R will be available in both 3 and 5 doors version

http://www.caradvice.com.au/63806/volkswagen-golf-r-3-door-confirmed/

http://www.ausmotive.com/2010/04/06/3dr-golf-r-gets-the-nod.html

Get the 3 doors guys! so good looking!! :)

[Androo]

Golf R seems to be having a few negative review in magazines. The car can not be launched and the Euro spec R claims to do 5.5 sprints to 100 while the best time managed was 6 seconds. Apparently the car bogs down and traction control keeps kicking in. You can't turn ESP off or semi off in the MK6 range. Even in DSG the launch control hardly works, hopefully VW will be able to fix this.

Launch - DSG rev at 3000rpm, release brake car revs die, bunny hops a few times then takes off. Doesn't sound good nor health for the cars engine mounts.

I'm going to have to agree with Anthony, bring back the VR6.

Can't remember which magazine it was in, latest Wheels or Motor. Tested overseas.

[MasterKevin]

Golf R seems to be having a few negative review in magazines. The car can not be launched and the Euro spec R claims to do 5.5 sprints to 100 while the best people can get is 6 seconds or a bit higher. Apparently the car bogs down and traction control keeps kicking in. You can't turn ESP off or semi off in the MK6 range. Even in DSG the launch control hardly works, hopefully VW will be able to fix this.

I'm going to have to agree with Anthony, bring back the VR6.

I got to agree that the launch control is poo on the MK6 its not the process thats bad its the slight 0.2-0.5 second delay when you releases the brake that pisses me off.

The rest is fine.

[Androo]

I got to agree that the launch control is poo on the MK6 its not the process thats bad its the slight 0.2-0.5 second delay when you releases the brake that pisses me off.

The rest is fine.

That also happens in the MK5, the tiny delay.

But don't forget that the R is AWD + TC maybe doesn't go well together? R32 MK5 used to be able to turn ESP off (not completely off still i don't think).

[S&H]

I got to agree that the launch control is poo on the MK6 its not the process thats bad its the slight 0.2-0.5 second delay when you releases the brake that pisses me off.

The rest is fine.

I wonder why VW felt the need to cripple the car by not allowing the ESP to be turned off fully? Could the fear of ligitation have anything to do with it?

Having said that, on the new Renault Megane and several other car makes still allow their owners to turn off ESP.

[amrjon]

Are these in showrooms yet? I saw a load on a tuck heading to sydney a week ago, but stopped into my dealer on the weekend and none in sight?

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[AP]

It's official launch date is the 15th June!!!

[dev17a]

I saw a black Golf R on City Rd Newtown this evening at 8.30pm!

[AP]

I saw a black Golf R on City Rd Newtown this evening at 8.30pm!
Yeah cool, i saw a blue golf R today near mascot.. Looks hot!!

[silverbullet]

yeah the driver of the golf R was probably thinking "holy shit it's the white devil from the tuner challenge" haha

[G-rig]

There should be one up here very soon.. can't say too much.

[Capercat]

Just say it, no one's going to sue you in court.

[DeanCorp]

Yeah what's the big deal G-banger?? Just tell!!

[elisiX]

G - you know how badly i've been waiting R news... give it up mate :)

[Byza]

my guess is APR have probably got one coming... they got there MKVI GTI very early and have a good relationship with VW Australia... that would be my guess out of anyone here in QLD to get one first...

[G-rig]

Byza is gettin hot, as I noticed the APR S3 is for sale.

[dopey]

Spotted a bright blue one on the Western Distributor yesterday afternoon! Really digging the front bumper, looks nice and aggressive.

[Lima]

Spotted a bright blue one on the Western Distributor yesterday afternoon! Really digging the front bumper, looks nice and aggressive.

I'm confused. So many people saying it is impossible to tell a Golf R from a regular Mk6, are you sure it wasn't a 90TSI you were looking at. :p

Can't wait to see a Golf R myself. I reckon they will look very, very nice.

[dopey]

I'm confused. So many people saying it is impossible to tell a Golf R from a regular Mk6, are you sure it wasn't a 90TSI you were looking at. :p

Can't wait to see a Golf R myself. I reckon they will look very, very nice.

Those who can't distinguish between the two from a front angle are quite clearly, blind. The massive vents on the front bumper are not easy to miss! The rest of the differences are admittedly subtle, but I have trained eyes (sometimes) :p

[S&H]

I'm confused. So many people saying it is impossible to tell a Golf R from a regular Mk6, are you sure it wasn't a 90TSI you were looking at. :p

Can't wait to see a Golf R myself. I reckon they will look very, very nice.

It is not the Golf R that they cannot distinguish from the regular Mk6, It is the Mk6 GTI.
The Golf R isn't out yet so how can it be the Golf R?

[dev17a]

I'm confused. So many people saying it is impossible to tell a Golf R from a regular Mk6, are you sure it wasn't a 90TSI you were looking at. :p

Can't wait to see a Golf R myself. I reckon they will look very, very nice.

perhaps you need to be around sydney to see one on the road :)

[dev17a]

has anyone made a pre-order on the R yet? went to VW Denlo Parra the other day and the salesperson showed me the Denlo internal memo re Golf R showing the specs, photos, colours and options list. some customers have paid $1000 for pre-order but prices list will be confirmed / agreed when VW aust has released it.

[G-rig]

It is not the Golf R that they cannot distinguish from the regular Mk6, It is the Mk6 GTI.
The Golf R isn't out yet so how can it be the Golf R?

They need glasses if they can't tell..

[S&H]

They cannot tell easily from a distance - it is only when the car is up close that the difference is obvious such is the subtleness of the Mk6 GTI's looks.

- unlike the MkV which you could tell from a greater distance away.

[Lima]

It is not the Golf R that they cannot distinguish from the regular Mk6, It is the Mk6 GTI.
The Golf R isn't out yet so how can it be the Golf R?

There's been a few sightings of Golf Rs on Sydney roads (in particular) now.

As for GTI v R v regular Mk6 looks I just reckon there is as much point of difference between the GTI and "lesser" Mk6s as there is between the R and a "lesser" Golf. Front foglights and rear exhaust the two biggest giveaways that usually give it away for me when I see a new GTI on the road.

All look good, to me anyway, so that's the biggest tick.

[GTI Cam]

The Golf R's also have DRL's so they are easy to differentiate from a normal Golf

[nath_mk6]

The Golf R's also have DRL's so they are easy to differentiate from a normal Golf
Don't they all have drls? Or do you mean different drls? Anyway you average Joe prob can't tell the difference but those in the know will, I think it looks good and am looking forward to getting in one for a test soon

[S&H]

Don't they all have drls? Or do you mean different drls? Anyway you average Joe prob can't tell the difference but those in the know will, I think it looks good and am looking forward to getting in one for a test soon

Only the R has DRLs isn't it? The GTI's only have the fog lights.

[G-rig]

They cannot tell easily from a distance - it is only when the car is up close that the difference is obvious such is the subtleness of the Mk6 GTI's looks.

- unlike the MkV which you could tell from a greater distance away.

Until you find out it's a GT, lol.

I know what you mean as there has been a bit of cost cutting using some of the same parts across the mk6 range, but not as different to mk5 GTI vs base models.

I didn't get one so randoms who aren't interested in cars can tell what it is. If I wanted something loud I would have got an orange XR5 or yellow Megane.

The GTI uses the bi-xenons as DRL's.

[Lima]

The R has LED DRLs, the halogen equipped Golfs still have a DRL arrangement, they're just not as flash. You'll probably have noticed what looks like parking globes on the inner lights.

The S3 used to have a similar set up before they added the LED DRLs with the facelift.

But, yes, the Golf R with low mounted LEDs would most likely catch the eye more than other Golfs.

[G-rig]

The R has LED DRLs, the halogen equipped Golfs still have a DRL arrangement, they're just not as flash. You'll probably have noticed what looks like parking globes on the inner lights.

The S3 used to have a similar set up before they added the LED DRLs with the facelift.

But, yes, the Golf R with low mounted LEDs would most likely catch the eye more than other Golfs.

I was expecting the inner lights on mine to be DRL's, but turns out they are the indicators.. Still a bit odd having my bi-xenon headlights as DRL's (unless they are actually less intense during the day). The bulbs last for quite a few hours but are still $150-200 to replace. Wouldnt mind an R bumper and/or the LED DRL's.. could possibly fit them anyway but may look odd with the fogs as well.

S&H: the wheels also give it away fairly quickly which model it is, most people are familiar with the trade mark Denvers (and Detroits) by now. The ride height is also slightly less than other models. Tail lights appear to be the same that could be where your confusion is coming from..

[GTI Cam]

Just followed a white 5 door R through the airport tunnel.....looked hot

[DSGR]

has anyone made a pre-order on the R yet? went to VW Denlo Parra the other day and the salesperson showed me the Denlo internal memo re Golf R showing the specs, photos, colours and options list. some customers have paid $1000 for pre-order but prices list will be confirmed / agreed when VW aust has released it.



Myself and a couple of mates put deposits down back in March, Final Pricing not until June/July apparently.

[elisiX]

So many R's on the road. Can we assume they're all press cars?

I'm really surprised with how many are being spotted - all different colours so obviously not just 1 or 2 cars.

[dev17a]

could be the journalists doing their review... could be the dealer salespersons / principals enjoying their first hand chance to experience the soon to be demo cars... or the volkswagen aust Botany HQ corporate executives?

[S&H]

Might want to hold off buying a demo for a few months...these cars will be trashed.

[Lima]

Might want to hold off buying a demo for a few months...these cars will be trashed.

Yep, always be wary of a car advertised as "VW executive driven vehicle". :p

They usually sell them with around 8000-9000km on the clock. Perhaps the only benefit of buying a "used" Volkswagen Aus car is I am pretty sure you get the full 3 year warranty from the date you purchase, not the date of teh car's first registration.

[elisiX]

I would never buy a demo that was used under such conditions (executive driven)..

Am hoping for a pre ordered vehicle arriving brand new close to my desired spec.

That is... if they arrive in the next few weeks.

[G-rig]

Yep, always be wary of a car advertised as "VW executive driven vehicle". :p

They usually sell them with around 8000-9000km on the clock. Perhaps the only benefit of buying a "used" Volkswagen Aus car is I am pretty sure you get the full 3 year warranty from the date you purchase, not the date of teh car's first registration.

On the other hand people say to run them in hard, so they should be ok but the discount isn't usually good enough to warrant buying a demo over a new car. The main thing I'd br annoyed at was if the interior was scuffed up from people that don't take much care.

The demo pirelli I was looking at didn't have full warranty, just the remainder from when it was registered.

[Capercat]

A sales person I know once said he would never buy a demo car for various reasons including the price.

[Lima]

I bought a demo Pulsar SSS back in the day. It had 1034km on it. By the time I sold 8 years later it had done about 180,000kms. Apart from regular servicing all I had to do was replace the clutch at about 160,000kms. It did have a bit of hesitation that came an went throughout its life, but it wasn't a major concern.

[G-rig]

My new gti had 60km on the clock whick is getting a bit much, but hey, saved waiting six months. Still ran it in as best I could wihout babying it but they are run in at the factory so don't really care.

[Capercat]

I once owned both the N14 & N15 SSS,

It was in this car I received my first speeding ticket.

[GeorgeS3]

So many R's on the road. Can we assume they're all press cars?

I'm really surprised with how many are being spotted - all different colours so obviously not just 1 or 2 cars.

Yes, I would expect that VWA will end up with at least 5-10 R's on the fleet as press vehicles. I know they had 5 Pirelli's as press vehicles back when they came out and this was a limited run of cars. I know this as the company I work for services/maintains VWA Head office. Back when Audi was in the same office it was surprising to see the amount of RS4's, RS6's and R8's that where on the fleet. But in saying this not all of these vehicles will make it to the press. There may be 1 or 2 of these vehicles that are good examples but you will never know.

[Lima]

http://volkswagengroupaustralia.com.au/golfrdash/

I guess a few of you have seen this already?

[AP]

Nothing wrong with Demo's!! If you are worried about the kms then just buy new!!

[random]

For the demo topic... it all depends what kind of car it is as well... The golf gti get tested ALOT, and people who buy GTIs would drive it pretty hard (wouldn't you?) compare this to say a toyota corolla... even if it has been tested a few times, the people who buy corolla's won't drive it anywhere near as hard...

When i tested the mk6 gti a few months back, it had like 8000km on it... and the salesman said it was only there for a few weeks.

As for the whole ex vw manager owned cars etc... what makes them so special? lol the last one i saw the salesman was like, the manager drives it and gets washed like every other day, so it was kept in "excellent" condition... as soon as i saw the car, i see swirly marks all over the car from the car being overwashed and probably dirty tools

[AP]

That's ok 8000km! Do you think the car is going to break? It's a volkswagen, plus there is always a salesperson in the car, so it can't get that thrashed...
I've brought a demo before and never had a problem.. Most of the time you can get a big discount on the demo's, plus you still get the new car warranty!!

[S&H]

Yes, I agree that buying a demo is ok. My previous car was a demo and it was faultless (up to 90,000K) until I handed it to my dad to use for 3 yrs (but that is another story).

The salesperson is not always in the car with me when I take them on test drives. As a matter of fact, 80% of the times I've asked for a test drive, the salesperson didn't come along.

[G-rig]

That's ok 8000km! Do you think the car is going to break? It's a volkswagen, plus there is always a salesperson in the car, so it can't get that thrashed...
I've brought a demo before and never had a problem.. Most of the time you can get a big discount on the demo's, plus you still get the new car warranty!!

Yeah as long as there is a considerable discount i'd consider it, but not if it's only slightly cheaper (due to the demand they try and sell them for the same amount when there are long waits for GTI's).

[Capercat]

It's not about the km's, let me tell you my story,

When I test drove the TTS DSG the sales guy red lined the car as soon as we left the yard in sport mode while the temperature needle was still at 0!

He continued to red line. I made a comment about this and his response was, it's just a demo car :rolleyes:

Then in effort to impress me, he Launched Controlled it in a back street and hit a roundabout curb in the process. I'm sure the alignment would have been out as a result. It was enough to make me sick.

When my boss bought his C63 AMG the sales guy handed the keys over, we had 2 hours to play.
I won't repeat on this forum what we did to that poor car, but it was enough to convince my boss to buy a new C63 & a sale was confirmed that day.
Sales guys knows what happens behind the scenes because it creates sales.

[Pharkus]

I agree with Rocco. There are some nasty things that people do to demo cars over a longer period than what might be done during a normal service. I'm still hesitant every time I drop mine in for service that some idiot hasn't taken it out and abused my poor baby. But the test drive/demo vehicle has every backyard Sebastian Vettel (most who don't respect the car and don't know how to drive) in them banging it up as hard as they can. It might have only a few thousand k's on it but those are the hardests k's it will most likely do.

I've pulled out of my watch purchase as the salesperson didn't want to even try sourcing a BRAND new watch for me. I'm not dropping that kind of dough on something where people have fiddled with the mechanism, tried it on etc. Yes I may be picky, but I think as a customer you should still approach a purchse of anything with both eyes open.

[random]

well yeah if there is a considerable amount of discount yes, but last time i went to barloworld mascot, the demo there was only like 2-3k off the price of a brand new one... that is not really worth it.

[M4RK0]

When i tested the mk6 gti a few months back, it had like 8000km on it... and the salesman said it was only there for a few weeks.

As for the whole ex vw manager owned cars etc... what makes them so special? lol the last one i saw the salesman was like, the manager drives it and gets washed like every other day, so it was kept in "excellent" condition... as soon as i saw the car, i see swirly marks all over the car from the car being overwashed and probably dirty tools

Maybe that's why they sale the demos "cheap", they have issues latter sometimes, or maybe not, but it's on the background that those cars had a tough life on the dealership,

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Maybe that's why they sale the demos "cheap", they have issues latter sometimes, or maybe not, but it's on the background that those cars had a tough life on the dealership,

well if it is actually cheap, then i would take it into consideration... but the mk6 gti i looked at a few months back only had like 2k off... 8000km... he basically said, if you don't want it someone else will, because they are in hot demand.

I think demos should be treated like a 2nd hand car... a second hand car drops it value as soon as it hits the road, why should it be any different to a demo? when most people would treat their car much nicer in the 1st year or so, much better than those demos, which are kept in all sorts of conditions outside, in rain, sun or hail.

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Demo's should be treated like a 2nd hand car once they have been registered and got so many km (anything over 100km is a demo in my book).

Highway VW in QLD still have a silver 2008 build Pirellli 'Demo' sitting in the sun every day with 4000km on it but grounded test drives on it a while ago. I would have got it for 43k but they are hoping for 47k. I asked them about the warranty and they said I'd only get the balance of the warranty (~2 years now), so pretty bad deal. No one will want it now with the R coming out haha.

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another example... my mate test drove a tornado red gti today at his local dealer, 9000km, and asking for 47k... that is the same price as a brand new one!! And they said no negotiation.

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How official is the 15th? ~ I know my R is here in Australia and my dealer still can't tell me when I can pick it up nor even when his demo will be delivered! I hope it is the 15th as I've been waiting for 18 months!
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