View Full Version : Golf Gti Pirelli Owners!
random
30-03-2010, 01:25 AM
So there are only 400 of them in Australia... i wonder how many of them can we gather all on this forum and thread!!! Would be cool if we can get 10% of Pirelli owners on here, tell whoever you know who owns a pirelli to join, well we should be telling all golf owners to join anyway :)
So... list some of your details on here (of course not personal).
Number#:
User name or name: __________
Pirelli type: eg. 3dr or 5dr, colour, options
State:
Mods: if none say stock.
What you love most about your pirelli:__________
List of owners:
1. DJC
2. DrRelli
3. Paolo
4. Michael - MSHL1979
5. Tinto - Martin
6. Den525
7. S&H
8. John2204
9. Dash - Darren
10. GeorgeS3 - George
11. Chugga44
12. 777
13. Deancorp
14. Papz
15. order last 1
16. Leb one
17. Blaze182
18. fir-26t
19. Craig67
20. timbo
21. Michaelj
22. clutrz
23. honestpuck
24. Danjh
25. 60UST
26. faitro
27. Just me
28. Ragemonkey
29. Rosco122
30. bee200sx
31. Quacker
...
400. wouldn't it be great if we have all 400 owners on here >D
Number#: 1
DJC
5DR, Black, Sat Nav, Reverse Sensors
Tas
Stock
The most loved thing is that it is a Pirelli and its different!
DrRelli
30-03-2010, 08:41 AM
Number#: 2
DrRelli
5DR, graphite blue, reverse sensors
Sydney
Stg 2 Bluefin with 3"TBE
The subtle difference in looks that set it apart from other GTi's, oh it also goes harder :lol:
Cool thread! Guys you should start head counting now so it's easier to keep track once the thread gets bigger.
ie. put
Number#:
User name or name: __________
Pirelli type: eg. 3dr or 5dr, colour, options
State:
Mods: if none say stock.
What you love most about your pirelli:__________
Paolo
30-03-2010, 09:13 AM
Number#: 3
User name or name: Paolo
Pirelli type: 5dr, BMP, Reverse Sensors & RNS510
State: NSW
Mods:
- GIAC Extreme Tune
- Turboback Exhaust
- VF K04 Intake
- Autotech HPFP
- BSH Intercooler
- AWE Boost Gauge
- Tints
What you love most about your pirelli: colour coded from factory and K04 baby!
mshl1979
30-03-2010, 11:59 AM
Number#: 4
User name or name: Michael - MSHL1979
Pirelli type: 5dr, BMP, Reverse Sensors
State: NSW
Mods:
- APR Stage 1
- RNS-510 Version C
- Stubby Antenna
- HPA SHS Coilovers (Ordered awaiting delivery)
- Tints
What you love most about your pirelli: The seats...... joking. I'm with Paulo the K04 by far is the best thing...
Tinto
30-03-2010, 03:08 PM
Number#: 5
User name or name: Tinto - Martin
Pirelli type: 5dr/ Blue Graphite/xenon/RNS510/Reverse Sensors
State: WA
Mods:
- APR Stage 2+ software
- APR Intercooler
- APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
- 42 Draft Designs Ceramic Coated 3" Downpipe
- KW Variant 3 coilovers
- Black Forest Industries Torque Arm Insert
- Work Emotion XT7 18 x 8.5
- Stubby Antenna
What you love most about your Pirelli: It is a complete package. Looks good, is comfortable, sounds decent, handles well and is swift when you need it to be, docile when you don't. I love the seats and yellow stitching too. Alcantara is amazing stuff. fk the haters. I'M NOT TAKING SEAT ABUSE FROM PEOPLE WITH TARTAN SEATS. ;)
Number#: 5
I'M NOT TAKING SEAT ABUSE FROM PEOPLE WITH TARTAN SEATS. ;)
Also don't forget not to take it from cocks who drive Audis.
random
31-03-2010, 10:34 PM
Number#: 6
User name or name: Den525
Pirelli type: 3drs, silver, reverse sensors and sat nav
State: Sydney, NSW
Mods: Stock... will mod in a few months
What you love most about your pirelli: different, loved gti for a few years, but just so many around until the pirelli. plus more power of course.
Number#: 7
User name or name: S&H
Pirelli type: 3drs, BMP, reverse sensors and sat nav
State: Sydney, NSW
Mods: Stock engine, Votex front lip, Kamei eyelids.
What you love most about your pirelli: The turbo rush. Blowing people away at the lights, the P-zero tyres.
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Number#: 5
User name or name: Tinto - Martin
Pirelli type: 5dr/ Blue Graphite/xenon/RNS510/Reverse Sensors
State: WA
Mods:
- APR Stage 2+ software
- APR Intercooler
- APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
- 42 Draft Designs Ceramic Coated 3" Downpipe
- KW Variant 3 coilovers
- Black Forest Industries Torque Arm Insert
- Work Emotion XT7 18 x 8.5
- Stubby Antenna
What you love most about your Pirelli: Alcantara is amazing stuff. fk the haters. I'M NOT TAKING SEAT ABUSE FROM PEOPLE WITH TARTAN SEATS. ;)
I don't have Tartan, can I have a shot then, Martin?
>D
I don't have Tartan, can I have a shot then, Martin?
>D
No..that includes ppl who have GTIs with R32 recaro seats in them. [insert two emoticons - one hitting the other with a hammer]
No..that includes ppl who have GTIs with R32 recaro seats in them. [insert two emoticons - one hitting the other with a hammer]
Well, I think I have some rights, since I also run k04 and running on P-ZERO. :lol:
Well, I think I have some rights, since I also run k04 and running on P-ZERO. :lol:
To pass the club initiation, you'll have to put in Pirelli seats....>D
bump for the new pirelli members!
Justin Fox
22-04-2010, 11:16 AM
Someone please sell me a Pirelli rear bar? Thanks! :lol:
Someone please sell me a Pirelli rear bar? Thanks! :lol:
Justin,
TMTuning sells them.
stephen8512
22-04-2010, 01:29 PM
isnt a pirelli rear bar just a painted colour coded GTI rear bar?
Big Yellow
22-04-2010, 01:41 PM
isnt a pirelli rear bar just a painted colour coded GTI rear bar?
Nope they have different mouldings and is more aggressive i would say
Capercat
22-04-2010, 01:44 PM
I would have preferred the rear center section not painted, just looks overdone IMO. Other than that its brilliant!
mshl1979
22-04-2010, 02:19 PM
I would have preferred the rear center section not painted, just looks overdone IMO. Other than that its brilliant!
Agree with that.... and the standard valance mods don't fit anymore either....
john2204
22-04-2010, 02:47 PM
Number#: 8
User name or name: John2204
Pirelli type: 3dr Black pearl All Options
State: NSW
Mods: stock
What you love most about your pirelli: Comfort & Speed.
random
22-04-2010, 09:35 PM
i love the pirelli rear, the standard black doesn't look as good, especially if it is a colour which is not black...
And yay we have 8 owners!!
i've actually yet to seen another pirelli apart from mine... i've seen 1 i think, but it didn't have the pirelli badge and i didn't see the wheel properly.
Frenchie
23-04-2010, 08:57 AM
Too many for my liking :)
Growing more and more...
Number#: 9
User name or name: Dash - Darren
Pirelli type: 5dr Silver
State: QLD - Brisbane
Mods: stock
What you love most about your pirelli: Performance, Classy & Practical
GeorgeS3
23-04-2010, 02:13 PM
Number#: 10
User name or name: George
Pirelli type: 5dr Yellow / Sat Nav / Reverse Sensors
State: NSW - Sydney
Mods: Stock
What you love most about your pirelli: Effortless to drive / power / Comfort / The seats even though it looks like i've been run over every time I get out
Capercat
23-04-2010, 02:17 PM
Welcome to both Darren & George
chugga44
23-04-2010, 02:25 PM
Number#: 11
User name or name: Chugga44
Pirelli type: 5dr, GB
State: NSW
Mods:
- GIAC
What you love most about your pirelli: k04, the seats (hate the look, love to sit in them), k04, the spool up sound post GIAC, k04, the price son...the price, not having to go to APR to have a k04 put on.
what i hate about my pirelli: the rattles, FWD, lack of baffle in the doors for the stezza,
GeorgeS3
23-04-2010, 02:30 PM
Welcome to both Darren & George
Thanks mate. I've been viewing the forum for a while but only just decided to join.
Chugga44, looks like we've come equal 10th.
mshl1979
23-04-2010, 03:50 PM
Number#: 11
what i hate about my pirelli: the rattles, FWD, lack of baffle in the doors for the stezza,
The rattles do suck..
Hi all, guess I am #12
Number#: 12
User name or name: 777
Pirelli type: 5dr, Yellow, Fully optioned
State: NSW
Mods: Stock
What you love most about your pirelli: its faster than my wife's R32
Hi all, guess I am #12
Number#: 12
User name or name: 777
Pirelli type: 5dr, Yellow, Fully optioned
State: NSW
Mods: Stock
What you love most about your pirelli: its faster than my wife's R32
random
24-04-2010, 02:32 AM
what do you guys mean by rattles?? as in the ride? or just noises?
Ps. we have reached 3% of pirelli owners lol
DeanCorp
24-04-2010, 12:43 PM
Number#: 13
DeanCorp
5DR, Black Magic Pearl, Reverse Sensors, RNS510, Bi-Xenon's.
Melbourne
GIAC Extreme - VF K04 Intake, Forge Twintercooler, Autotech HPFP, Brembo Big Brake Kit Gran Turismo, KW V3 Suspension, Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit, VF Pendulum Mount + TAI, Full 3" Exhaust, DynAudio 362 3-way front speakers with 8" mid-range, Skoda Bluetooth Kit, MDI, Image Dynamics iD8 Sub in custom fibreglass enclosure.
The thing I like most about this car is, it is a sleeper and can blow off most things on the road!
For further details see: DeanCorp's GTI Pirelli (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?708-DeanCorp-s-GTI-Pirelli)
chugga44
24-04-2010, 09:23 PM
what do you guys mean by rattles?? as in the ride? or just noises?
Ps. we have reached 3% of pirelli owners lol
when you drive the car you can hear squeaks/rattles from internal panelling etc.
i have just turned the stereo up to compensate, and now i am getting annoyed by the lack of baffling in the doors!!!
i can sit here and complain all night if you want!!!!
i do love my car though...
DeanCorp
26-04-2010, 03:49 PM
Get Stinger Roadkill for all your doors, you will have no rattling in the doors!
I have rattles in my doors to....actually you just reminded me to go and pull the trim off my passenger's door and check it out.
It was never too bad until I had the windows re-tinted. They haven't put something back together quite right and its pissing me off lol.
Dean, your Pirelli is a beast!
Capercat
26-04-2010, 04:48 PM
There shouldn't be much to put back when tinting a MK5 or Mk4. The top lip simply springs out when correctly managed.
No need to remove the door trim when tinting.
DeanCorp
26-04-2010, 05:12 PM
I have rattles in my doors to....actually you just reminded me to go and pull the trim off my passenger's door and check it out.
It was never too bad until I had the windows re-tinted. They haven't put something back together quite right and its pissing me off lol.
Dean, your Pirelli is a beast!
Thanks mate :)
random
26-04-2010, 06:00 PM
oh ok, i don't have problems with rattle at the moment, maybe i will in the future??
Could it be from mods? eg. tuning, therefore it is making more power, hence more noises than it was designed to do?
There shouldn't be much to put back when tinting a MK5 or Mk4. The top lip simply springs out when correctly managed.
No need to remove the door trim when tinting.
I think thats the problem though...it wasn't correctly managed by the folks who did it.
Not to worry though I'm going to tackle it tomorrow and get stuck into it
:)
random
11-05-2010, 10:56 PM
Just came across a BRAND NEW Pirelli on carsales... http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8674928&__sid=126037577C6A&__Qpb=true&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%204294962746%2042949 62677%204294789929&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=3&silo=1011
didn't think there would be any new ones left.
nath_mk6
11-05-2010, 11:06 PM
Part of a sale of at least 4 cars by the look of it.
The Brand New Sunflower Yellow Pirelli as mentioned (93kms) 3 dr (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8674928&keywords=Rare&CT=Compare&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode matchany&__No=30&__D=Rare&silo=1011&__Ntx=mode matchallpartial&__sid=12805E09A430&__N=1216 1247 1282 1252 4294962746 898&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&Cr=&__Ntt=Rare&__Qpb=true)
2009 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF V MY09 R32 DSG 4-MOTION in Tornado Red (48kms) 5dr (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8674940&keywords=Rare&CT=Compare&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode matchany&__No=30&__D=Rare&silo=1011&__Ntx=mode matchallpartial&__sid=12805E09A430&__N=1216 1247 1282 1252 4294962746 898&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&Cr=&__Ntt=Rare&__Qpb=true)
2008 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF V MY08 R32 DSG 4-MOTION in Candy White (5,050kms) 3 dr (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8671666&keywords=Rare&CT=Compare&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode matchany&__No=30&__D=Rare&silo=1011&__Ntx=mode matchallpartial&__sid=12805E09A430&__N=1216 1247 1282 1252 4294962746 898&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&Cr=&__Ntt=Rare&__Qpb=true)
2008 VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 9C MY2008 ANNIVERSARY EDITION in Campanella White (34kms) (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8673147&keywords=Rare&CT=Compare&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode matchany&__No=30&__D=Rare&silo=1011&__Ntx=mode matchallpartial&__sid=12805E09A430&__N=1216 1247 1282 1252 4294962746 898&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&Cr=&__Ntt=Rare&__Qpb=true)
Links to each in text. All being sold from a collection of rare VWs in Wagga NSW.
Pretty cool hey?!
Tinto
11-05-2010, 11:22 PM
Red r32 = hens teeth
random
11-05-2010, 11:27 PM
The red one is rare, because it is really ugly. can't believe the difference between a red gti (which is acceptable) to a red r32 which from those pictures = disgusting.
But is a white r32 rare??? i've seen quite a few around, and some on this forum as well.
nath_mk6
11-05-2010, 11:34 PM
Dont know if the CW is rare, maybe in the 3dr?
random
11-05-2010, 11:47 PM
i think the white r32 is just there, it is not new. just part of what is on sale.
chugga44
12-05-2010, 08:22 AM
$50k for the pirelli....they're kidding right?
random
12-05-2010, 06:36 PM
$50k for the pirelli....they're kidding right?
fully optioned... brand new... limited edition... i think someone would be willing to cough up the cash, especially for someone who likes that colour.
How much did everyone pay for their pirelli???
chugga44
12-05-2010, 10:05 PM
fully optioned... brand new... limited edition... i think someone would be willing to cough up the cash, especially for someone who likes that colour.
How much did everyone pay for their pirelli???
46 on road 5 door GB.
i agree that the 3 door in the yellow is probably the most collectable of the lot however...
fully optioned... brand new... limited edition... i think someone would be willing to cough up the cash, especially for someone who likes that colour.
How much did everyone pay for their pirelli???
It is not fully optioned - it doesn't have bi-xenons.
burgs
12-05-2010, 10:28 PM
Pretty exy pricing for those golfs, I cant believe they want $60K for the red R32 lol
The red one is rare, because it is really ugly. can't believe the difference between a red gti (which is acceptable) to a red r32 which from those pictures = disgusting.
But is a white r32 rare??? i've seen quite a few around, and some on this forum as well.
I don't think the pictures do justice, the Red R32 looks so nice in the flesh. The pictures make the colour almost look pink :S
random
13-05-2010, 11:54 PM
I don't think the pictures do justice, the Red R32 looks so nice in the flesh. The pictures make the colour almost look pink :S
It is not 100% the colour, it is the matching of the red and the r32. The r32 has that more sophisticated/luxury looking front therefore, it makes red on that front looks weird. For a gti it is a more sporty looking front, so it matches more.
Number#: 14
User name or name: papz
Pirelli type: 3-Door, Graphite Blue, RNS510, Reverse Sensors
State: Sydney NSW
Mods: Stock
What you love most about your pirelli: Almost always underestimated, simple to drive, K04 turbo, P-Zero tyres, launchin it at the lights.
M4RK0
21-05-2010, 12:32 AM
I saw two of them near my work, I'll chace them!,
For sure there are a couple in Carsales,
random
21-05-2010, 01:09 AM
welcome papz!! more pirelli owners!
on the topic of carsales.... the 5 door silver one going for 48k has got to be joking! i bought mine 10 weeks ago for 10k less and less kms.
order last 1
24-05-2010, 04:23 PM
Number#: 15
User name or name: order last 1
Pirelli type: 5dr, Yellow, Fully optioned
State: ACT
Mods: Stock
In near future: Bilstein PSS10 (not install yet), Giac tuning
What you love most about your pirelli: Everything is looked special to ordinary GTI with a lot of great potentials
random
24-05-2010, 04:34 PM
yay we are closing in on 4% of the pirelli owners haha
mshl1979
24-05-2010, 04:59 PM
There was a Silver 5 Door with 8500KMS for sale at Chatswood VW.
Had RNS-510 and Xenons.
Asking $48K for it though.
random
25-05-2010, 01:17 AM
that is ridiculous pricing!! i saw that a couple of days ago, it will still be there for another 5 years, if they are trying to sell at that price.
Considering i got mine for less kms for 10k less, i think the max they could get is 42-43k, because of Xenons and 5 doors (but that is down to personal preferences)
Same for their r32 there... brand new... but 57k? surely people would just wait for the R
that is ridiculous pricing!! i saw that a couple of days ago, it will still be there for another 5 years, if they are trying to sell at that price.
Considering i got mine for less kms for 10k less, i think the max they could get is 42-43k, because of Xenons and 5 doors (but that is down to personal preferences)
Same for their r32 there... brand new... but 57k? surely people would just wait for the R
But does yours have an RNS510? If it doesn't that would explain the price difference. Dealers will always mark up the price over what you can get privately.
chugga44
25-05-2010, 02:35 PM
that is ridiculous pricing!! i saw that a couple of days ago, it will still be there for another 5 years, if they are trying to sell at that price.
Considering i got mine for less kms for 10k less, i think the max they could get is 42-43k, because of Xenons and 5 doors (but that is down to personal preferences)
Same for their r32 there... brand new... but 57k? surely people would just wait for the R
if you walked in there with a cheque for $43k i am sure they would give you the keys...
random
26-05-2010, 01:51 AM
But does yours have an RNS510? If it doesn't that would explain the price difference. Dealers will always mark up the price over what you can get privately.
yeah mine was fully optioned and from a dealer, hence my disbelieve at that price. In saying that, mine was cheaper than others on the market at the time, but this is overpriced.
if you walked in there with a cheque for $43k i am sure they would give you the keys...
i'm sure they would too lol but do they really think buyers are stupid? do they think marking up the price so ridiculously high, would mean people would offer just 2-3k down like other cars?
Capercat
26-05-2010, 07:30 AM
that is ridiculous pricing!! i saw that a couple of days ago, it will still be there for another 5 years, if they are trying to sell at that price.
Considering i got mine for less kms for 10k less, i think the max they could get is 42-43k, because of Xenons and 5 doors (but that is down to personal preferences)
Same for their r32 there... brand new... but 57k? surely people would just wait for the R
That's one way of seeing it, I would personally wait for the R, but until it officially gets released dealers can milk it.
Leb_One
26-05-2010, 08:27 PM
Number#: 16
User name or name: Leb One
Pirelli type: 5dr, Silver, Rear parking sensors
State: QLD
Mods: Stock, new bulbs
What you love most about your pirelli: Big gain when its chipped, also very easy to drive.
chugga44
26-05-2010, 08:44 PM
i'm sure they would too lol but do they really think buyers are stupid? do they think marking up the price so ridiculously high, would mean people would offer just 2-3k down like other cars?
unfortunately my old man walked into a dealership once and paid the quoted price on a subaru...i couldnt believe it when he told me...
order last 1
27-05-2010, 11:45 AM
Typical traditional way of purchasing a car couple of decades ago. The price was more realistic and didn't contain too much markup back then. These days, dealers put a price gap there for customer to negociate.
fir-26t
04-06-2010, 01:34 PM
+1 pirelli owner, NSW, 3door, sunflower yellow, standard
Can anyone that owns a pirelli shed some light...
I'm looking at a ECU Tune either with Bluefin or APR...
Did any pirelli owner run both tunes, to see weather it's worth paying $800 extra for the APR tune since they promise higher outputs????
random
04-06-2010, 01:42 PM
I'm looking into it as well... well i'm leaning towards APR... i've contacted them and there is a sale on at the moment till the end of the financial year, plus i'm going to take my car there for service (which is $125 cheaper than VW)... So i worked out that a standard $405 service plus bluefin would be around 1200... and at european autotech... i'm thinking 1800...
IMO i still think bluefin is very generic... i'm sure if you search the forum you would find alot of people very happy with it... but my gut feeling is that, apr specialise on 4 car manufacturers (audi, Porsche, vw and skoda)... i'm sure they have spent more time on developing a tune for the pirelli. For bluefin they have tunes for like 50 manufacturers, so in my opinion, knowing they do so many manufacturers, i just feel it would be generic.
At the end of the day, it is your decision afterall.
fir-26t
06-06-2010, 11:13 PM
@ den525 - Thanks for the info, much appreciated.... You have persuaded me to go with APR... cheers....
DeanCorp
06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
@ den525 - Thanks for the info, much appreciated.... You have persuaded me to go with APR... cheers....
I just find it amusing how you can take the advice from someone who hasn't tried either tune let alone any tune on their car yet for that matter.
IMO i still think bluefin is very generic... i'm sure if you search the forum you would find alot of people very happy with it... but my gut feeling is that, apr specialise on 4 car manufacturers (audi, Porsche, vw and skoda)... i'm sure they have spent more time on developing a tune for the pirelli. For bluefin they have tunes for like 50 manufacturers, so in my opinion, knowing they do so many manufacturers, i just feel it would be generic.
At the end of the day, it is your decision afterall.
Bluefin is based in the UK which is a market that actually received the Pirelli edition and the Edition 30 Golf unlike APR who are based in the US and did not receive the model. That would make them more qualified to tune the car in my opinion.
order last 1
07-06-2010, 01:53 AM
Bluefin is based in the UK which is a market that actually received the Pirelli edition and the Edition 30 Golf unlike APR who are based in the US and did not receive the model. That would make them more qualified to tune the car in my opinion.
This is so true! That is the reason why I persuit of sourcing Bluefin rather than getting APR from local.
What about Giac? I saw an ECU tuning chip on their list for 30th LE MK5 GTI which is the same as our Pirelli.
Don't like pricing 'persuade' you in believing that one company is better. It's like saying because Toyota produces more cars than Kia it doesn't make their cars more 'generic'. Bluefin have a very good knowledge of ED30/Pirellis. If you need more information on Pirelli tuning the UK Golf GTI forums are very helpful.
fir-26t
07-06-2010, 11:00 AM
Decisions, Decisions, so hard......
This is so true! That is the reason why I persuit of sourcing Bluefin rather than getting APR from local.
What about Giac? I saw an ECU tuning chip on their list for 30th LE MK5 GTI which is the same as our Pirelli.
I believe that GIAC have affiliations/dealers in both the UK and South Africa who map the cars and then send their tunes to the US head office for packaging/customisation/varification for other markets.
Dont quote me on it though.
Link to magazine review of Bluefin ED30 tune
http://www.superchips.co.uk/roadtest/VW%20Driver%20May07%20Golf%20GTI%20Edition30.PDF
G-rig
07-06-2010, 11:49 AM
Bluefin is based in the UK which is a market that actually received the Pirelli edition and the Edition 30 Golf unlike APR who are based in the US and did not receive the model. That would make them more qualified to tune the car in my opinion.
Depends how long they tested and spent on the tune - Guy told me APR spent 230 hours of data logging & recalibration on the MKV Pirelli alone.
Depends how long they tested and spent on the tune - Guy told me APR spent 230 hours of data logging & recalibration on the MKV Pirelli alone.
Bluefin has had their ED30/Pirelli tune longer than any other tuner out there - the article is dated June 2007. GIAC and APR didn't have theirs till 08/09.
If there have been problems with the BF tune, they would have been sorted by now.
Depends how long they tested and spent on the tune - Guy told me APR spent 230 hours of data logging & recalibration on the MKV Pirelli alone.
Yep i know Guy does a lot of work here. Other than the 1 time the APR boys come out to Australia I dont think he actually tunes anything here on a dyno though. Just log data and send it to APR for modification to suit our requirements who then send back code.. Rinse/repeat.
Just the same as any other local tuner that experiences problems with one of their tunes.
There are only 2 places in Australia with the ability to actually tune the cars that i know of. Neither are aligned with any of the big off the shelf tuning companies.
I think following assumptions that 1 tuner does more work than another are false. It doesnt matter what I buy in life. Im always going to take what the person selling the product tells me with a grain of salt.
For all the harping on about how bad every other tune on the market is I am yet to see an independant dyno plot from an APR tuned Pirelli. They may very well be the best. But prove it. Dont just say it.
G-rig
07-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Bluefin has had their ED30/Pirelli tune longer than any other tuner out there - the article is dated June 2007. GIAC and APR didn't have theirs till 08/09.
If there have been problems with the BF tune, they would have been sorted by now.
Yeah not saying it isn't as good, just seems more mild if it's anything like their other tunes. Personal preference.
Yep i know Guy does a lot of work here. Other than the 1 time the APR boys come out to Australia I dont think he actually tunes anything here on a dyno though. Just log data and send it to APR for modification to suit our requirements who then send back code.. Rinse/repeat.
In this day and age the programmers don't really need to be sitting here to do all the work, much like anything IT based.. Blufin isn't really any different but the onus is on the customer to do all the logging and sending files back and forward themselves if there are problems.
For all the harping on about how bad every other tune on the market is I am yet to see an independant dyno plot from an APR tuned Pirelli. They may very well be the best. But prove it. Dont just say it.
I'm sure there would be some & a lot of people aren't even on the forums- haven't seen many from the other tuners either tbh.
random
07-06-2010, 12:29 PM
This makes my decision harder after reading the last few posts... i think at the end of the day i will just have to take the plunge and see what happens.
Guy_H
07-06-2010, 12:46 PM
Yep i know Guy does a lot of work here. Other than the 1 time the APR boys come out to Australia I dont think he actually tunes anything here on a dyno though. Just log data and send it to APR for modification to suit our requirements who then send back code.. Rinse/repeat.
Just the same as any other local tuner that experiences problems with one of their tunes.
There are only 2 places in Australia with the ability to actually tune the cars that i know of. Neither are aligned with any of the big off the shelf tuning companies.
I think following assumptions that 1 tuner does more work than another are false. It doesnt matter what I buy in life. Im always going to take what the person selling the product tells me with a grain of salt.
For all the harping on about how bad every other tune on the market is I am yet to see an independant dyno plot from an APR tuned Pirelli. They may very well be the best. But prove it. Dont just say it.
I would suggest you do a bit more homework on your competitors rather than make assumptions.
The APR ED30 (Pirelli) code was originally done in conjunction with Oettinger back in 2007, then re-calibrated in Manchester back in 2008 (yes i was there with 2 of APR's calibrators for 3 weeks), then a month was spent on the DSG side of things last year (yes, here in Australia with APR's calibrators). To date we still have people that are running other "brands" of software that have continually misfire issues on the Pirelli's that we have been able to fix.
Who has a stock Pirelli for a one on one dyno & data log comparison to load Tim's program on & then ours? As he says:
They may very well be the best. But prove it. Don't just say it don't forget, run the free trial on both programs before purchase.
P.S, we have just under 90k worth of programming & mapping software & hardware in house. We don't modify any APR files, they have calibrators & engineers with thousands of hours hands on experience with this platform (2.0T) alone.
mshl1979
07-06-2010, 01:04 PM
My Pirelli is APR Tuned Stage 1 with the Carbonio Intake. Booked in at the Recode guys (Mainland Dyno) on Saturday for a dyno run. Will post numbers after. Happy to offer a drive if you want to try the APR out.
Honestly as posted in another thread each tuner have there good points and bad points for each tuner. My Opinion and the reason why I spent that little extra is below
From a Stage 1 perspective you can excpect all the tuners to be similar apart from Bluefin. It's when you go to Stage 2 or 3 that should influence your dicision on tuner.
APR: $1600-$1700 - You can change maps via cruise control. Been tuning VAG cars for quite some time. Involved in Motorsports. Make parts themselves to go with there tune. APR Parts generally ok priced and ok quality. Good point is that there Stg 2 and 3 tunes are matched to there parts and are tested with there parts. If you are a noob modder probaly a good direction to go in. Plug and play and less room for error but you pay for this. STG 2 APR also doesn't need intake apparently so can save some money there. 10D has a K04 tune.
GIAC: $900 + $300(GIAC tool to switch maps) - Expereniced modders seems to prefer GIAC. Good price point and proven dyno charts. GIAC doesn't make there own TBE or Intakes hence they by defualt support alof of different aftermarket parts. Good point is people have some choice and TBE/Intercooler/HPFP/ and Intake and don't have to go APR. But some trial and error have to take place as not all parts work equally as well with each other but arguably some combos could work quite well. There are a few GIAC Extreme Pirelli's already with different parts and are working well e.g. DeanCorp and Paolo.
Bluefin: $800 - Good option for people who are planning to stick to STG 1. Self sufficent you load the tune yourself. Bluefin maps can be edited by dyno tuners. Too be honest don't know of alot of people who have gone beyond STG 1 under bluefin. Online support seems to be supberb for these guys. So for the people who are in regional areas who can't visit a local tuner, Bluefin is perfect.
Then you of course got the other tuners as well.
BTW I've never ever switched my car back to stock again even though I can do it via cruise control.
Big Yellow
07-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Dean's car is making 200fwkw and does not have misfire problems. Nothing wrong with his tune!
Justin Fox
07-06-2010, 01:17 PM
Tim/Guy - It's awesome to have you both on the forum (please consider coming on board as sponsors?!) but I don't want a slug match between you guys on VWGolf.net.au.
I know it's a tough call to respect each other as you're both competitors but please refrain from any negative connotations towards the other. Thanking both of you in advance.
mshl1979
07-06-2010, 01:19 PM
Dean's car is making 200fwkw and does not have misfire problems. Nothing wrong with his tune!
Paolo's one had some misfire problems. His mechanic and GIAC was helping him fix it. I believe it's fixed now though.
Like I said before GIAC more trial and error but good value for money. Dean and Paolo both 200KW ATW but different parts. Dean runs Forge Intercooler / Paolo runs BSH Interooler for example. I think they both run Autotech fuel pumps. Not sure what TBE they run though.
To get that much via power via APR you have to go APR Intercooler / APR HPFP / APR TBE. And both the APR Intercooler and APR HPFP are more expensive than Forge and Autotech. But less trial and error.
With the Internet these days it's probaly not that hard to find a good combination. E.g. just go buy what Dean has. Still from a support perspective it could be easier to fix problems if you where with APR (less variance in parts means less things to worry about)
Big Yellow
07-06-2010, 01:27 PM
Both Dean and Paolo run the Eurospeed downpipe. Dean also has the eurospeed catback and paolo runs the arqray.
I dont think the intercooler is as big of a piece in the puzzle as tony's ko4 200kw car runs the VF intercooler.
But all 3 run giac extreme, vf ko4 intake and autotech hpfp.
Also, i believe there was a tsb issued in the UK for a faulty batch of valve springs in the pirelli motors. This is what is causing the misfires at high load. Not tune related. Obviously with an upgraded tune, the misfires may be more apparant as it highlights a hardware weak point.
random
07-06-2010, 01:28 PM
how about for someone who has no intentions to go further than stage 1?? Does that mean i should go with the cheapest?
Big Yellow
07-06-2010, 01:31 PM
how about for someone who has no intentions to go further than stage 1?? Does that mean i should go with the cheapest?
Get trials of them all and pick the one you like most and what you can afford.
mshl1979
07-06-2010, 01:34 PM
Get trials of them all and pick the one you like most and what you can afford.
What he said!!
random
07-06-2010, 01:42 PM
Get trials of them all and pick the one you like most and what you can afford.
Well yeah... it was really down to bluefin and apr... especially the sale, plus i intend to get my car serviced there, as it is cheaper.
Can one actually trial the bluefin/superchip?
But i know what will happen... whichever one i go to first, i would just get it... because i'm lazy, and as most people have said, all the tunes put a smile on your face straight away.
Well yeah... it was really down to bluefin and apr... especially the sale, plus i intend to get my car serviced there, as it is cheaper.
Can one actually trial the bluefin/superchip?
But i know what will happen... whichever one i go to first, i would just get it... because i'm lazy, and as most people have said, all the tunes put a smile on your face straight away.
GMC offers a 7day money back return on the Bluefin. Or speak to Gerard - he may be able to arrange a test for you.
random
07-06-2010, 01:51 PM
thanks for that... i'm still waiting for derek from eurotech to reply... the 1st emails he replied the very next day... but the 2nd email... no response yet.
G-rig
07-06-2010, 03:55 PM
Paolo's one had some misfire problems. His mechanic and GIAC was helping him fix it. I believe it's fixed now though.
Like I said before GIAC more trial and error but good value for money. Dean and Paolo both 200KW ATW but different parts. Dean runs Forge Intercooler / Paolo runs BSH Interooler for example. I think they both run Autotech fuel pumps. Not sure what TBE they run though.
To get that much via power via APR you have to go APR Intercooler / APR HPFP / APR TBE. And both the APR Intercooler and APR HPFP are more expensive than Forge and Autotech. But less trial and error.
With the Internet these days it's probaly not that hard to find a good combination. E.g. just go buy what Dean has. Still from a support perspective it could be easier to fix problems if you where with APR (less variance in parts means less things to worry about)
Same with Deans, he had troubles to start with and recall him replacing coilpacks and said it was a bad batch of fuel.
Agree it's a bit of trial and error with running a tune with all different brand of mods and combinations but sounds like they know what works now. There is a lot of good mods out there but kind of makes sense to get the APR hardware if using their software as it's tested with that gear and eliminates some of the trial and error with BYO parts. Also makes it easier with free future stage upgrade tunes and you know the gear is compatible.
Guy_H
07-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Also, i believe there was a tsb issued in the UK for a faulty batch of valve springs in the pirelli motors. This is what is causing the misfires at high load. Not tune related. Obviously with an upgraded tune, the misfires may be more apparant as it highlights a hardware weak point.
Can you please find a copy of this tsbplease? We had VW UK, VW Germany & VW Australia all search for it & it seems it does not exist. Would love to see it (and a couple of hundred Pirelli owners would too!)
mshl1979
07-06-2010, 04:13 PM
There is a fair few Pirelli on the forum now. (Last count was 18) Understand not all in Sydney but we should organise a Pirelli GTG Photoshoot.
blaze182
07-06-2010, 04:18 PM
Number#: 17
Blaze182
5DR, Black, Reverse Sensors
VIC
Stock - Is getting modded.
Most loved thing? Fun to drive =D
DeanCorp
07-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Same with Deans, he had troubles to start with and recall him replacing coilpacks and said it was a bad batch of fuel.
Agree it's a bit of trial and error with running a tune with all different brand of mods and combinations but sounds like they know what works now. There is a lot of good mods out there but kind of makes sense to get the APR hardware if using their software as it's tested with that gear and eliminates some of the trial and error with BYO parts. Also makes it easier with free future stage upgrade tunes and you know the gear is compatible.
What are you trying to say that I was LYING that I got my coil packs replaced and blamed it on fuel. I promise you it was fuel. I would say whether I replaced them or not.
G-rig
07-06-2010, 04:31 PM
What are you trying to say that I was LYING that I got my coil packs replaced and blamed it on fuel. I promise you it was fuel. I would say whether I replaced them or not.
Just going off what you told me at the time, i knew you bought coilpacks when it was playing up.
DeanCorp
07-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Just going off what you told me at the time, i knew you bought coilpacks when it was playing up.
Yeah, I also have told you several times that I did BUY them but before I was ready to fit them the problem stopped happening and I got a refund from Barloworld VW in Moorabbin. If you would like a screenshot of my bank statement showing the refund I would be more than happy to e-mail that to you.
MasterKevin
07-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I also have told you several times that I did BUY them but before I was ready to fit them the problem stopped happening and I got a refund from Barloworld VW in Moorabbin. If you would like a screenshot of my bank statement showing the refund I would be more than happy to e-mail that to you.
seriously who cares? wow !
DeanCorp
07-06-2010, 04:49 PM
seriously who cares? wow !
I care because I hate it when people make up shit! People like this tend to make bullshit up and make out as if a tune from a company i.e. GIAC caused this "coilpack issue" etc..
G-rig
07-06-2010, 04:54 PM
Yeah, I also have told you several times that I did BUY them but before I was ready to fit them the problem stopped happening and I got a refund from Barloworld VW in Moorabbin. If you would like a screenshot of my bank statement showing the refund I would be more than happy to e-mail that to you.
Never said the tune caused it but seemed like a coincidence at the time. Thought you installed them, don't recall otherwise but I believe you Dean :).
DeanCorp
07-06-2010, 04:55 PM
You never said it directly in black and white, but it was pretty clear what you were getting at, just thought I'd clear it up.
G-rig
07-06-2010, 05:00 PM
Well it's good now isn't it, you can blow peoples doors off lol.
Ok hope we are all good now, if you still have an issue with each other keep it to PM or start a new thread!
Looks like we forgot someone:
Number#: 18
User name or name: fir-26t
Pirelli type: 3door, sunflower yellow
State: NSW
Mods: Stock
random
07-06-2010, 05:23 PM
nearly 5%!! lol
fir-26t
07-06-2010, 05:59 PM
Jebusssssss!!!!!!!!! World War III..... Chill pill everyone :)
Thank you SUGA, good point.....
random
07-06-2010, 06:12 PM
So back to tuning the pirelli... what do you guys think... my 1st service is due 25th june... but i will be going away on the 23th of June... and will be for 4 weeks.
IF i go with APR... i intend to get it serviced at European Autotech at the same time before 23th of course to take advantage of the sale (10%)... plus it is like $130 cheaper than VW dealers for service. So i would do it all before that...
BUT would it be better to get the car serviced after i return? instead of having all the new oil etc just sitting in the garage for 4 weeks? Does it really matter that much that the car will be a month late for service? would that affect the warranty for not servicing the car on time? Does it matter for the stage 1 upgrade that just sits there for a month...
actually i'm also a little bit worried about my head/mind... getting it upgrade and only driving it for a day or 2, then be away from the awesomeness for a month...
DeanCorp
07-06-2010, 06:38 PM
At the end of the day if it is only a Stage I ECU Retune, it doesn't really make much difference which brand you go for most power figures are pretty similar.
Most important thing is distance between you and your local dealer. I don't really care how much it costs for the ECU tune, at the end of the day it's my car and I want to know it will run the best and most reliably. If it is an extra $500 over the life of you owning the car, then who cares!
random
07-06-2010, 06:58 PM
Thanks Dean, just a question... for a tuned car... is it recommended that you service the car more often?? compared to the once a year service at the moment.
Paolo
07-06-2010, 09:46 PM
bow chicka wow wow
thats what i think
noone can really find the TSB but many audis have had them replaced overseas
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?87953-Valve-springs-replacement-Audi-TSB&p=894516
back on topic mofos
Guy_H
07-06-2010, 09:51 PM
bow chicka wow wow
thats what i think
noone can really find the TSB but many audis have had them replaced overseas
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?87953-Valve-springs-replacement-Audi-TSB&p=894516
back on topic mofos
Already checked that one out, nothing to do with the BYD Pirelli motors at all, would love to see an official one. Thanks for the link anyway.
Justin Fox
07-06-2010, 10:56 PM
if you don't like it, don't read it.
simple
I'm not sure who you think you are (or who you are for that matter) but the last time I checked Christina and I run this forum. All we've done to this date is put in everything we've got into making it happen, to tell us to 'not read it if we don't like it' is plain insulting.
Our forum rules have been created in an aim to keep the peace and we expect every forum member to respect them.
I've just deleted a lot of posts which I found to be either pointless, abusive, repetitive, stupid or a combination of. Byza/Tendy I'm sorry some of your posts got deleted in the mix. I imagine it must be frustrating for you guys to have taken the time to write honest posts only to have them deleted, so a sincere sorry (and thanks).
Again, for the third time. PLEASE think twice and respect the forum rules. Not naming any names but if you guys continue to break our rules we'll be forced to ban you off the forum in order to protect our members and our community.
BACK ON TOPIC - This thread is dedicated to Pirelli owners, derail it and bare the consequences!
random
07-06-2010, 11:11 PM
job well done :)
HCGTI
07-06-2010, 11:12 PM
I'm not sure who you think you are, or who you are for that matter but the last time I checked Christina and I run this forum, all we've done to this date is put in everything we've got into making it happen and to tell us to not read it if we don't like it is plain insulting.
Our forum rules have been created in an aim to keep the peace on these forums and we expect every forum member to respect them.
I've just deleted a lot of posts which I found to be either pointless, abusive, repetitive stupid or a combination of. Byza I'm sorry some of your posts got deleted in the mix. I imagine it must be frustrating for you to have taken the time to write honest posts only to have them deleted.
Again, for the third time. PLEASE think twice and respect the forum rules. Not naming any names but if you guys continue to break our rules we'll be forced to ban you off the forum in order to protect our members and our community.
BACK ON TOPIC - This thread is dedicated to Pirelli owners, derail it and bare the consequences!
Sorry if it came out that way.
what i was referring to was the insulting comments and banter that was going on.
when i said don't read it i meant to just ignore it like i have. or not to take it so personally because i have learnt that it gets you no where and it just goes around and around.
i didn't mean it in a way to tell forum owners what they could and couldn't do.
Sorry mate.
Justin Fox
08-06-2010, 10:07 AM
Apology accepted! :)
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 11:32 AM
Ok back on track....
My name is Michael and I'm addicted to my K04 Pirelli (Even though my tyres only last 10,000KM and are $450 each)
Capercat
08-06-2010, 11:38 AM
Ok back on track....
My name is Michael and I'm addicted to my K04 Pirelli (Even though my tyres only last 10,000KM and are $450 each)
I like that Michael, good to see you get the most from your car. Are we talking track days?
random
08-06-2010, 11:39 AM
Ok back on track....
My name is Michael and I'm addicted to my K04 Pirelli (Even though my tyres only last 10,000KM and are $450 each)
Really? only 10000km? what do you do with your car? hopefully mine last alot longer than that!
chugga44
08-06-2010, 11:45 AM
Really? only 10000km? what do you do with your car? hopefully mine last alot longer than that!
8800 out of my fronts...rotated them and now the ass gets all out of shape in a lovely way!
the pirelli does not enjoy my foot of lead.
I have done 8000kms and they are still more than 50% - even with the usual high jinks on GTGs. Have you rotated your tyres and aligned your wheels since you got the car?
random
08-06-2010, 12:02 PM
me? no... i don't do any of that with any of my cars lol had the 135i for over 2 years and didn't do anything... had the mx5 (nc) for 4 years and didn't change and touch the tyres...
But i only drive my car normally... maybe not "normal" on this forum...:)
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 12:18 PM
I like that Michael, good to see you get the most from your car. Are we talking track days?
Nope no tracking... just my lead foot not being able to help itself. (STG 1 Flash doesn't help either)
Yeah due for a rotation. In saying that I'll probaly get another 5000KM max out of all four tyres after a rotation. They where rotated once before.
Considering we can get wheelspin in third, I can understand why they don't last.
These Pirelli tyres are soft but grippy as.
So if you buy a Pirelli and plan to go STG 1 expect to replace all 4 tyres at 15,000KM MAX.
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 12:21 PM
I have done 8000kms and they are still more than 50% - even with the usual high jinks on GTGs. Have you rotated your tyres and aligned your wheels since you got the car?
Chugga is flashed too... I think the software update is the culprit of our tyre life.
It's interesting note how much quicker the fronts wear compared to the back.
random
08-06-2010, 12:30 PM
So if you buy a Pirelli and plan to go STG 1 expect to replace all 4 tyres at 15,000KM MAX.
what!!! i'm planning to get stage 1... the tyres look fine and feel fine at the moment, no wheelspins, unless i step on it in 1st gear.
Does stage 1 really make that much of a difference to tyre wear?
Justin Fox
08-06-2010, 12:46 PM
So you guys drive around with traction control turned off?
random
08-06-2010, 01:06 PM
so... good news (for me anyway)... getting my car serviced at European Autotech tomorrow and getting stage 1 done as well :)
Tuned Pirelli owners are having traction problems even with TC turned on? Do you guys encounter any axle tramping?
DeanCorp
08-06-2010, 02:14 PM
I got 12,000km out of my fronts! :D Rotated at 12,000km
DeanCorp
08-06-2010, 02:15 PM
Tuned Pirelli owners are having traction problems even with TC turned on? Do you guys encounter any axle tramping?
I have no problems with traction. As for axle tramp, not after the Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit.
G-rig
08-06-2010, 02:15 PM
I think that's to expected when tuning any GTI..
Dean surely you'd get some Axel tramp in the wet?
Will have to look into these ALK's
I have an ALK on my stock Pirelli and I still get problems with axle tramping, not so much as before but still shows signs of it. After the install of the solid brushings it did help with the traction I could put on the ground though. I'm surprised on a Stage 2+ you don't get any traction problems? That's pretty awesome, are you still running 225's on the front Dean?
Androo
08-06-2010, 02:34 PM
A standard GTI gets axle tramp without trying, I'd hate to have that much power through the front wheels. It won't be fun, great for top end but to get going would be a bit of a task compared to a stage1 GTI.
random
08-06-2010, 02:41 PM
what is axle tramp??? is that the glunky noise if you step on it? or is that just the traction control?? all this car terms i don't get lol
But for stage 1... i do expect wheel spin, as i do with the normal pirelli... i just want more torque, and a little bit more power, knowing i could never get it off the line smoothly... kinda knew that when i bought a Fwd.
what is axle tramp??? is that the glunky noise if you step on it? or is that just the traction control?? all this car terms i don't get lol
But for stage 1... i do expect wheel spin, as i do with the normal pirelli... i just want more torque, and a little bit more power, knowing i could never get it off the line smoothly... kinda knew that when i bought a Fwd.
It's when a wheel 'hopping' occurs on a FWD car with the axle rotating and the wheels are springing backwards giving that noise I guess. I don't know the exact definition sorry lol. We shouldn't put down a FWD car too much, there are plenty of high power FWD cars out there that are great street cars. We just need to look at other things rather than power such as wheels, tyres, camber setup, suspension etc. :)
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 02:47 PM
So you guys drive around with traction control turned off?
The traction control I don't think is coping too be honest. I'm not talking about smoking all fours wheel.
Gun it in 3rd gear you'll get 1 sec of wheelspin / wheel chirp and then traction control kicks in for another 2-3 secs trying to control it.
If you do the above in 1st gear and keep your foot down with out backing off despite traction control, you won't be moving anyway for at least 5 secs.
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 02:47 PM
what!!! i'm planning to get stage 1... the tyres look fine and feel fine at the moment, no wheelspins, unless i step on it in 1st gear.
Does stage 1 really make that much of a difference to tyre wear?
Boost comes in quite hard after 2200 RPM.
random
08-06-2010, 02:49 PM
It's when a wheel 'hopping' occurs on a FWD car with the axle rotating and the wheels are springing backwards giving that noise I guess. I don't know the exact definition sorry lol. We shouldn't put down a FWD car too much, there are plenty of high power FWD cars out there that are great street cars. We just need to look at other things rather than power such as wheels, tyres, camber setup, suspension etc. :)
well yeah i think, i'm thinking about the same thing as you... lol
Well FWD do make great cars... not really putting the pirelli down, as i love it. But i don't treat it as some sort of race car, and i have no intention to make major modifications to it, stage 1 is the max i will go, because doing other mods are a long downhill slope that you can never stop or go back.
So i'm just happy with what i've got... if stage 1 is too much trouble i could always go back to stock (haha)
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 02:49 PM
A standard GTI gets axle tramp without trying, I'd hate to have that much power through the front wheels. It won't be fun, great for top end but to get going would be a bit of a task compared to a stage1 GTI.
Too be honest Androo. I test drove a normal GTI before I bought my Pirelli. And axle tramping was much worse on the stock GTI than the Pirelli. Not sure why to be honest: Tyres? better on the Pirelli? Boost comes on later maybe?? who knows.
random
08-06-2010, 02:51 PM
Boost comes in quite hard after 2200 RPM.
Just curious... what is the major difference between Sport mode and APR stage 1... and for stage 1... what is the difference between D and S??
Because i hardly drive with S, as it is quite rough at times on normal streets.
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 02:51 PM
After the HPA coilovers I don't really have an issue with axle tramping any more... the wheels tend to just spin now.
We should have a Pirelli GTG and check out the difference in each person cars.
Too be honest Androo. I test drove a normal GTI before I bought my Pirelli. And axle tramping was much worse on the stock GTI than the Pirelli. Not sure why to be honest: Tyres? better on the Pirelli? Boost comes on later maybe?? who knows.
I find driving with boost coming on a bit later isn't a bad thing, most of my driving is done in CBD traffic so I try to keep my revs as low as possible to save fuel lol.
Just curious... what is the major difference between Sport mode and APR stage 1... and for stage 1... what is the difference between D and S??
Because i hardly drive with S, as it is quite rough at times on normal streets.
I think S just gives you a later shift point and also keeps you in a lower gear as opposed to D
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Just curious... what is the major difference between Sport mode and APR stage 1... and for stage 1... what is the difference between D and S??
Because i hardly drive with S, as it is quite rough at times on normal streets.
I find sport mode on STG 1 probaly too agressive. It'll downshift a gear when you slowing down into a corner and stay at above 5000rpms making the car quite touchy to drive around a corner. Each dab of the trottle would invoke TC (imagine that mid corner). If you stayed in the same gear for example the car would sit at around 3000rpm still in it's powerband but not as touchy on the trottle compared to lower a gear. Less margin for error when cornering. thus I much prefer to drive the car in manual mode.
STG 1 improves power on boost that you can stay in a higher gear and still have plently of power.
Androo
08-06-2010, 02:57 PM
I can't find the video but there was a Stage 1 GTI vs a Stage 1 Pirelli and the 60Ft times were in favour of the standard GTI but the end result was Pirelli was .3 quicker at 400m.
GTI: 2.1 13.9
Pirelli: 2.3 13.6
It was something like that, must of been removed :S ... it was a ED30, pretty much the same thing though.
Obviously had a lot of top end. Another reason you might not have any axle tramp is because you have coilovers keeping weight down on the wheels. Many factors.
Pirelli rims might be heavier, better Pzero tyres... etc.
I've found that my new set of tyres have excellent grip but when they start to slip the axle tramp is worse than before, but it takes a lot for them to slip.
G-rig
08-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Agree with bwen, semi slicks or grippy tyres would be a must once you start pushing more than stage 1 IMO.. Some people say coilovers help, and changing the all bushes make the ride a lot firmer/harder but help as Guy has done that in his GTI now.
The 18" wheels probably help too being heavier.
random
08-06-2010, 03:02 PM
I find sport mode on STG 1 probaly too agressive. It'll downshift a gear when you slowing down into a corner and stay at above 5000rpms making the car quite touchy to drive around a corner. Each dab of the trottle would invoke TC (imagine that mid corner). If you stayed in the same gear for example the car would sit at around 3000rpm still in it's powerband but not as touchy on the trottle compared to lower a gear. Less margin for error when cornering. thus I much prefer to drive the car in manual mode.
STG 1 improves power on boost that you can stay in a higher gear and still have plently of power.
Thats for that info... last question i promise... it can't be true that stage 1 saves more fuel right? when the boost is always kicking in!
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 03:21 PM
Thats for that info... last question i promise... it can't be true that stage 1 saves more fuel right? when the boost is always kicking in!
Well... yes and no.
You have more power across the rev range now. So technically you don't need to drive the car as hard to get the same power as before. So if you drive at exactly the same speed before STG1 then you should save fuel. But we all know that isn't true.... most likely we would drive it harder.... leading to more fuel use.
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 03:24 PM
Some comparo stats of Pirelli vs Normal GTI
Not sure how accurate this site is. I think it grabs or the numbers and averages from different website/magazines.
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1561-1256.htm
chugga44
08-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Thats for that info... last question i promise... it can't be true that stage 1 saves more fuel right? when the boost is always kicking in!
i burn more fuel now with GIAC, but then again i do give it far more of a workout.
So i'm just happy with what i've got... if stage 1 is too much trouble i could always go back to stock
haha....that is what they all say!!! i thought i'd be happy with just stage 1, but now i want the GIAC extreme setup with ALK's etc etc...i really want the rear wheels to have some drive though...
Here's another good comparison (for track times):
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv220/bwen/Screenshot2010-06-08at23205PM.png
chugga44
08-06-2010, 03:34 PM
Some comparo stats of Pirelli vs Normal GTI
Not sure how accurate this site is. I think it grabs or the numbers and averages from different website/magazines.
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1561-1256.htm
and that is with some idiot controlling the gears on the pirelli!! lol...*waits for the flames*
post tune, the acceleration difference from 70-120 is insane.
Chugga is flashed too... I think the software update is the culprit of our tyre life.
It's interesting note how much quicker the fronts wear compared to the back.
Being FWD will do that to the tyres.
G-rig
08-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Here's another good comparison (for track times):
Interesting results, not too much in some of them but other times are quite apparent ie 0-200km/hr (not sure how often you'd do that).
random
08-06-2010, 04:04 PM
would be interesting to see gti mk6 vs pirelli... it is interesting to see how in those stats above, that the standard is better on some things, like 0-60... plus better braking? BUT the zeperfs ones pirelli was in a manual and standard gti in DSG... so pirelli should be even faster on all counts.
Ps. Thanks for the info on the fuel thing. looking forward to getting stage 1 tomorrow :) and 1.5k down as well
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Well I'll post the dyno charts for my car hopefully early next week, once I head into recode.
Hopefully it doesn't spark another Tuner war... (DUCKS)
random
08-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Well I'll post the dyno charts for my car hopefully early next week, once I head into recode.
Hopefully it doesn't spark another Tuner war... (DUCKS)
Why are you going to recode, when you have apr stage 1?
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 04:12 PM
Why are you going to recode, when you have apr stage 1?
Just getting Ben and Mark to run it on the dyno to see how the APR is running at the moment.
Really was happy to go to any dyno, but since they are forum sponsers decided to head out that way.
Some Pirelli Appreciation
http://www.volkswagengroupaustralia.com.au/GOLFGTIPIRELLI/
random
08-06-2010, 04:21 PM
i love how even in the picture the wheels doesn't stick to the road
nath_mk6
08-06-2010, 04:26 PM
when are you heading down there Michael, they're 5 mins down the road from me :)
chugga44
08-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Well I'll post the dyno charts for my car hopefully early next week, once I head into recode.
Hopefully it doesn't spark another Tuner war... (DUCKS)
i will be heaps interested to see how you go. i am convinced that i have a flat spot in my GIAC curve
chugga44
08-06-2010, 04:46 PM
i love how even in the picture the wheels doesn't stick to the road
that would confuse the shit out of the XDL in the mark VI!
DeanCorp
08-06-2010, 04:47 PM
I have an ALK on my stock Pirelli and I still get problems with axle tramping, not so much as before but still shows signs of it. After the install of the solid brushings it did help with the traction I could put on the ground though. I'm surprised on a Stage 2+ you don't get any traction problems? That's pretty awesome, are you still running 225's on the front Dean?
Yep still stock P-Zero 225's. I've rotated them but that's it!
DeanCorp
08-06-2010, 04:51 PM
Maybe it's not only the ALK but pretty much everything has been adjusted... V3 KW Suspension, ALK, TAI etc..
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 05:06 PM
when are you heading down there Michael, they're 5 mins down the road from me :)
Saturday morning Nathan. Around 9.00am.
mshl1979
08-06-2010, 05:06 PM
i will be heaps interested to see how you go. i am convinced that i have a flat spot in my GIAC curve
You STG1 with Giac Chugga?
Capercat
08-06-2010, 05:11 PM
Love the Pirelli, shame they didn't come in 6MT.
Maybe it's not only the ALK but pretty much everything has been adjusted... V3 KW Suspension, ALK, TAI etc..
I definately think it would be your tune working in conjunction with all your mods especially the ALK and V3 KWs!
would be interesting to see gti mk6 vs pirelli... it is interesting to see how in those stats above, that the standard is better on some things, like 0-60... plus better braking? BUT the zeperfs ones pirelli was in a manual and standard gti in DSG... so pirelli should be even faster on all counts.
Ps. Thanks for the info on the fuel thing. looking forward to getting stage 1 tomorrow :) and 1.5k down as well
Ask and you shall receive :)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv220/bwen/Untitled.png
Tinto
08-06-2010, 05:47 PM
^ ouch! that new engine must be a cracker. Great results for a stock MK6.
I'd love to know what the stage 1 tunes (from any given vendor) would produce.
i.e. which one wakes up more.
^ ouch! that new engine must be a cracker. Great results for a stock MK6.
I'd love to know what the stage 1 tunes (from any given vendor) would produce.
i.e. which one wakes up more.
I think it would be that new XDS system that helps get the power to the ground hence giving it a faster 0-400m time but yet still yield a slower 0-160km/h time
edit: because I think a stock ED30/Pirelli traps a 102-104mph? whereas a stock k03 normally traps a 99-101mph
random
08-06-2010, 05:56 PM
Ask and you shall receive :)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv220/bwen/Untitled.png
thanks mate... i still don't get how 0-100, 0-160 and 0-200 the pirelli is faster.. yet the quarter mile the mkvi is faster... how does that work?
I think if the test was conducted using LC, the 0-60ft times on the Pirelli might be slower than the MKVI GTI, don't know to be honest. Could be a whole factor of things
eurospeed
08-06-2010, 06:40 PM
Its up to the customer to discuss and ask for advice which way they want to go.
there are a lot of products out there, some good some bad, and many products that do not live up to advertised gains.
people may get better advice from those who have experienced a variety of products, than those who have only experience in only one type.
There are companies out there that may make several products of which some maybe good and some maybe bad.
I have yet to see one vendor that makes everything good.
If you have previously performed few mods on a car, i bet you can look back and say which items were worth doing and some may have been a waste, and if you did it all over again, you would probably do things differently, and if you are 100% honest you would agree with this.
Justin Fox
08-06-2010, 06:41 PM
Guys for the fourth time please STOP going off topic and digging up the chip war debate.
READ the first post of this thread:
http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?481-Golf-Gti-Pirelli-Owners!
Let's keep it on topic.
If you guys want to start the ultimate chip war thread, by all means go for it but just remember rules are rules and if you can't keep the discussion constructive the ban hammer will have to come out.
GeorgeS3
08-06-2010, 06:47 PM
Guys,
I think you will find that those times posted are very generic. FIR-26T new member on this forum ran a 13.9 @ WSID in a stock Pirelli. He can probably elaborate more on the time but when you compare his time to the one posted buy the ED30 in the above comparo there is almost 1sec diff down the 1/4mile which is a lot. I'm not sure if anyone has run a stock Mk VI at WSID yet but it would be interesting to see what the difference is.
Justin Fox
08-06-2010, 06:56 PM
Remember WSID's surface is VERY sticky which helps in getting a good launch.
chugga44
08-06-2010, 08:35 PM
You STG1 with Giac Chugga?
yeah the off the shelf GIAC.
lets get this back on topic.
fir-26t
09-06-2010, 10:07 AM
Guys,
I think you will find that those times posted are very generic. FIR-26T new member on this forum ran a 13.9 @ WSID in a stock Pirelli. He can probably elaborate more on the time but when you compare his time to the one posted buy the ED30 in the above comparo there is almost 1sec diff down the 1/4mile which is a lot. I'm not sure if anyone has run a stock Mk VI at WSID yet but it would be interesting to see what the difference is.
:) what can I say.... There is no need in comparing kw, performance, stats and everything else to determine which car is "BETTER"..... Every car to me is a great car in it's own unique way..... Be happy with what your driving....
Anyone can read stats (not having a dig at anyone) but the bottom line is, you need to know how to drive, control, race your can stock or wether it would be modified.....
A lot has to do with the driver and his/hers racing experience....
There is no point reading stats and saying that you drive a better or faster car, when in fact, many owners do not know how to drive their car.....
I thought, like many others, that I was a great driver, BUT once I started racing, then I really found out how 5h1t I was :)
Tinto
09-06-2010, 12:18 PM
Oh yes, best to ignore all points of reference we have and hope for the best.
...you can't ignore stats even if they are inaccurate. It at least provides a basis for discussion, none of which was about the "better car", just a point of reference towards the progression of the product.
Please don't try to shut it down, or there is no point in any of us being here.
mshl1979
09-06-2010, 12:20 PM
A three door Golf R Manual costs $48,990... Our Pirelli RRP was $48,990.... Discuss!!
fir-26t
09-06-2010, 12:23 PM
Oh yes, best to ignore all points of reference we have and hope for the best.
...you can't ignore stats even if they are inaccurate. It at least provides a basis for discussion, none of which was about the "better car", just a point of reference towards the progression of the product.
Please don't try to shut it down, or there is no point in any of us being here.
>D>D DAMMMMIIIITTT i tried changing the topic ;);)
A three door Golf R Manual costs $48,990... Our Pirelli RRP was $48,990.... Discuss!!
HMMMMMM, i would buy one for sure if i plan to do track work on a regular basis.... Its a best of a car....
Tinto
09-06-2010, 12:25 PM
great pricing, probably to make it work with stablemates from Audi.
Seems like the lower price of manufacturing is being passed through, which was quite unexpected!
A three door Golf R Manual costs $48,990... Our Pirelli RRP was $48,990.... Discuss!!
Golf R is better technically but Pirelli (MKV) is better aesthetically. IMO - YMMV! No facts - all objective! Nothing is ever factual!
For the sake of diplomacy, PCness and to make all parties happy. Both are good! Everything good - nothing is ever bad. :)
The Truth? - what is that?
great pricing, probably to make it work with stablemates from Audi.
Seems like the lower price of manufacturing is being passed through, which was quite unexpected!
Imagine what the price would be when the initial hype/demand has died down.
random
09-06-2010, 12:37 PM
Golf r vs pirelli...
From what I gathered... Same engine? Just awd and upgrades on several parts? And considering the 3 years difference you would expect a car of the same price to be better right?
mshl1979
09-06-2010, 12:39 PM
Lol remember that silver Pirelli at Chatswood? for $52K??? Should walk in there tell them they can have my Pirelli (less Kms as well) and just let me drive a bare Golf R 3 Door away.
random
09-06-2010, 12:47 PM
Haha yeah it is 48990 at the moment! I should trade mine in should get at least 45k for it!
Androo
09-06-2010, 12:50 PM
A three door Golf R Manual costs $48,990... Our Pirelli RRP was $48,990.... Discuss!!
I highly doubt it, that's a big drop and the GTI won't sell in that case.
1) the prices are too close
2) if you option a GTI to the exact standard R why would you buy a GTI when you can have AWD?
Wait till VW release pricing.
Tinto
09-06-2010, 12:58 PM
Do the new R models come with all the fruit like they (basically) did on an R32?
Or is it possible to get a taxi-pack model?
When I had my GT, i optioned nothing and still loved it as the important stuff was there - 1.4TSI and DSG.
I'm a little more spoiled in the loaded Pirelli, but I could definitely do without stuff like seat warmers...
G-rig
09-06-2010, 01:05 PM
It's nice to get a few options but a lot aren't necessary.
I'm a little more spoiled in the loaded Pirelli, but I could definitely do without stuff like seat warmers...
I'm always a bit bare when buying cars, I always opt for nothing as I always much prefer the driving experience than anything else. In saying that I think I've used the seat warmers in my car once since first purchase lol
I'm always a bit bare when buying cars, I always opt for nothing as I always much prefer the driving experience than anything else. In saying that I think I've used the seat warmers in my car once since first purchase lol
Seat warmers are a boon on cold mornings like today. Brrrr!
mshl1979
09-06-2010, 01:18 PM
Leather is no longer standard.
Capercat
09-06-2010, 01:18 PM
I'm a little more spoiled in the loaded Pirelli, but I could definitely do without stuff like seat warmers...
It cost $1000 for seat warmers on the Porsche, I've only used them a few times, but its nice to have a warm ass rather using the heater.
Whichever way you look at it, I was robbed.
order last 1
09-06-2010, 01:21 PM
Yea, I am really surprised of seeing this price with the R considerring amount of standard equipments it has. Very tempting to trade!
Seat warmer is very useful in some areas such as Canberra. The story could be different if you live in Qld. Now I am in love of them comparing with sitting on a cold leather seat in a freezing winter morning.
random
09-06-2010, 01:22 PM
I highly doubt it, that's a big drop and the GTI won't sell in that case.
1) the prices are too close
2) if you option a GTI to the exact standard R why would you buy a GTI when you can have AWD?
Wait till VW release pricing.
Those are the official pricing it has been confirmed by a few dealers on vwwatercooled!
I think people think too much of the R as in comparing the price to r32 but in reality it is alot closer to a gti now...
Golf > GTI 10k jump
GTI > R 10k jump
I think it is fair as it no longer have a v6, just 2l turbo, the big difference is the AWD! Other than that the engine is better but an older version and the rest are just vw modification to a gti instead of big difference like mk5 gti vs r32
alot of people still buy the standard golf, I don't see why people won't buy the gti just because of the R.
One good thing is, you won't see p platers driving Rs no more yay!
random
09-06-2010, 01:25 PM
Seat warmers are a boon on cold mornings like today. Brrrr!
The seat Warmers are awesome
1. To warm butt on cold mornings
2. Turn it on the passenger side to freak people out in winter or summer :)
Yea, I am really surprised of seeing this price with the R considerring amount of standard equipments it has. Very attempting to trade!
Seat warmer is very useful in some areas such as Canberra. The story could be different if you live in Qld. Now I am in love of them comparing with sitting on a cold leather seat in a freezing winter morning.
Yes - very tempting but better to wait till the initial hype/demand has abated.
G-rig
09-06-2010, 02:01 PM
The seat Warmers are awesome
1. To warm butt on cold mornings
2. Turn it on the passenger side to freak people out in winter or summer :)
Don't really need them at all up here in QLD, but disappointing leather isn't standard like with all the other proper R vehicles in the range.
The cheaper price makes up for it a bit and actually don't mind cloth for a change as the leather isn't cheap or the best quality.
Anyway all this is off topic just like the tuning discussions :P.
Androo
09-06-2010, 02:13 PM
R32 is more classy than the Golf R.
If that is confirmed pricing then VW have killed the GTI sales and the R has lost its prestige.
CW Pirelli :)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1285/4683183607_5b8f87152b.jpg
chugga44
09-06-2010, 02:27 PM
CW Pirelli :)
wtf?
i thought yellow, black, silver and graphite...just a wheel swap tendy?
Capercat
09-06-2010, 02:29 PM
...just a wheel swap tendy?
Correct
G-rig
09-06-2010, 02:31 PM
R32 is more classy than the Golf R.
If that is confirmed pricing then VW have killed the GTI sales and the R has lost its prestige.
Yeah it will just be like a WRX and fairly common. Still a good car though but more boy racer than the R32 and doesn't really deserve the R badge, not really the same as the R36 and R50.
order last 1
09-06-2010, 03:16 PM
It seems VW really tries to differentiate the similar range of cars under Audi and VW, they are S3 and R20, by magnifying the price gap between them. But the consequence will just sacrifice the GTI sales and lose its prestige on the R20.
chugga44
09-06-2010, 03:22 PM
Yeah it will just be like a WRX and fairly common. Still a good car though but more boy racer than the R32 and doesn't really deserve the R badge, not really the same as the R36 and R50.
i agree that it has lost its true R image, but the pricetag will keep it from being WRX like. there is very little chance these will be less than $65k on road without some decent specs
It seems VW really tries to differentiate the similar range of cars under Audi and VW, they are S3 and R20, by magnifying the price gap between them. But the consequence will just sacrifice the GTI sales and lose its prestige on the R20.
I don't see why a cheaper R is a bad thing. If it means the R losing some prestige, bring it on I say. I rather pay less for more car. How much prestige can you expect in a car under $100K?
Sure, it may affect Pirelli resale values but at the end of the day, cheaper price of the R means the changeover price will still be the same.
wtf?
i thought yellow, black, silver and graphite...just a wheel swap tendy?
:) um yes.
order last 1
09-06-2010, 07:48 PM
haha... It is looked like a real one since you got front lip and side skirt.
Hehe. This thread became so tense, I just want to cheers you Pirelli boys up!
:)
I think the Pirelli wheels look the best on the CWs. If only they came in that colour :(
burgs
09-06-2010, 11:34 PM
I think the Pirelli wheels look the best on the CWs. If only they came in that colour :(
X2 that looks hot 10D :)
random
09-06-2010, 11:36 PM
just checked carsales... pirellis are flooding the market! 7 is on sale
Thanks guys.
Prepping to hit the track on Friday. Any Pirelli would like to come?
Tinto
09-06-2010, 11:46 PM
I got my dose on Saturday :) check the video thread
I got my dose on Saturday :) check the video thread
That sure is fun! M
Thanks guys.
Prepping to hit the track on Friday. Any Pirelli would like to come?
Would love to come but have to work...and got no track wheels/tyres.
mshl1979
10-06-2010, 11:28 AM
Same.... tyres would kill me.
Same.... tyres would kill me.
Kumho bro - Kumho - $135 per tyre.
Big Yellow
10-06-2010, 11:40 AM
Kumho bro - Kumho - $135 per tyre.
which kumhos cost $135 a tire??
which kumhos cost $135 a tire??
KU31s
Johnno got his for that much from a mob in QLD. 17 inch though.
G-rig
10-06-2010, 11:46 AM
KU31s
Johnno got his for that much from a mob in QLD. 17 inch though.
That would be Option1garage bloody cheap!
Big Yellow
10-06-2010, 11:53 AM
KU31s
Johnno got his for that much from a mob in QLD. 17 inch though.
ahhh k, i got a local quote for ku31s for 225/40/18 $200 fitted
ahhh k, i got a local quote for ku31s for 225/40/18 $200 fitted
So the price of the tyres (minus fitting) and taking into account size differences, should be about right.
I have the KU31s on our BBS CKs, which are currently on the S3 and were previously on the GTI. They've propbably done 15,000-20,000kms I suppose. I also had them on my old MINI.
They're hard to knock back because their performance for price is pretty damn good. They do get noisy, though. Compared to some much more expensive tyres I have used, however, (namely Michelin Pilot Precedas) they are actually better in pretty much all conditions, especially after a few thousand kilometers have been driven.
That said, the tyre noise is at a point where I'm not so sure I'll get them again.
mshl1979
10-06-2010, 12:15 PM
Need to invest in some stock 17"s and kumhos then for track days.
mshl1979
15-06-2010, 07:47 PM
Pirelli APR STG 1 with Carbonio Intake and OEM DV (THESE ARE THE ONLY MODS) Upgrade too seperate dyno's a day apart
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4692644100_8c9da2f690_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/4702844196_8187e5a9e3_b.jpg
random
21-06-2010, 09:18 PM
What is the tint level of the pirelli?
Craig67
29-06-2010, 10:02 PM
Hi all just discovered this thread, i think i'm #19
Number#: 19
User name or name: Craig67
Pirelli type: 5 door, Reflex Silver Pirelli . Alpine Head Unit, Sat Nav, Bluetooth and Tinted Windows.
State: QLD
What you love most about your pirelli: everything
timbo
09-07-2010, 05:43 PM
Hello fellow Golf owners. What a fantastic car ! I just took delivery this morning of my very own GTI Pirelli, so I guess I'm #20...
Number#: 20
User name or name: timbo
Pirelli type: 5 door, Reflex Silver, reverse park sensors
State: VIC
What you love most about your pirelli: the pirelli seats (tyre tread & yellow stitching - excellent style), the pirelli alloys
My only problem: Now I need to sell my other car...quickly!...
Who introduced me to the GTI brand: The messiah Jeremy Clarkson. This car does it all - it is now my main family car - space for teenage kids, reasonable 'boot' space and awesome performance. What more could you want ?
michaelj
10-07-2010, 10:22 AM
#21 here, aca Michaelj
Love my car, but please somebody tell me they also suffer chronic tyre noise.
Indepenent tyre people have said the P Zeros are not suited to the car, ironic eh!
My previous '06 with Conties, replaced @ 60k quiet as.
Please tell me I'm not the only one!!
clutrz
24-07-2010, 02:48 PM
Number#: 22
User name or name: clutrz
Pirelli type: 5 door, Reflex Silver, reverse park sensors, bluetooth, Pioneer AVIC F900BT
State: VIC
What you love most about your pirelli: The rims. Always liked GTIs but the Pirelli made me love them
Honestpuck
31-07-2010, 10:55 AM
Number#: 23
Type: 5 Door Reflex Silver, reverse park sensors, bluetooth
State: NSW
What I love most: The DSG box and that 2 litre Turbo.
GTi4Eva
02-08-2010, 11:39 AM
Sorry I dont have one... only standard for me :(
Some1 I know at uni has one... its sooo nice
I think its honestly worth the extra compared to the standard gti
What I love about it most - The one thing that I love about it most is the pirelli seats, the tyre tread & yellow stitching is so awesome.... but just having an secondhand standard gti is still awesome
random
02-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Which uni?
danjh
03-08-2010, 07:18 PM
Danjh
Sydney
Pirelli Edition 3 door graphite blue DSG
APR ECU upgrade
Sat Nav Reverse sensors
have owned many golfs first one I rebuilt from the shell up by GTI Imports ( Thanks Brian) a Black MK1 3 door with a MK2 gti motor upgrade. Then owned a MK2 Silver gti and have also had a MK1 convertible I bought in Kennsington when I was about 21 was a piece of #@% it was !
60UST
16-08-2010, 08:02 PM
just a simple hi from the owner of the black 2 door GTI Pirelli, just joined the forum, how many of you are from Brisbane?
60UST
16-08-2010, 08:55 PM
just a simple hi from the owner of the black 2 door GTI Pirelli, just joined the forum, how many of you are from Brisbane?
Number#:25
User name or name: 60UST
Pirelli type: 3dr, black, all options available fitted
State:QLD
Mods: Stock
What you love most about your pirelli: we look different :>, we ignore the rest :<, we are the best:cool:
random
16-08-2010, 10:00 PM
love it, i like to ignore the rest as well!!!
1/16 of the pirelli population!!!
faitro
22-08-2010, 01:00 AM
Number#:26
User name or name: faitro
Pirelli type: 5dr, Reflex Silver, Sat Nav, Parking sensors
State: VIC
Mods: APR
What you love most about your Pirelli: KO4 + APR = perfect power :D
The GTI Pirelli's the heart of the Golf R, so you guys are the Mk6 Golf R trendsetters! :)
You are ahead of the game. :)
stephen8512
22-08-2010, 02:04 AM
The GTI Pirelli's the heart of the Golf R, so you guys are the Mk6 Golf R trendsetters! :)
You are ahead of the game. :)
Actually, the S3 is closer to being the heart of the Golf R....given that the engine is exactly the same and they both have AWD
G-rig
23-08-2010, 09:14 AM
Number#:25
User name or name: 60UST
Pirelli type: 3dr, black, all options available fitted
State:QLD
Mods: Stock
What you love most about your pirelli: we look different :>, we ignore the rest :
Welcome, spotted you coming off the SE freeway near the gabba on Saturday. The Pirelli looks sweet. I was in the white MK6 GTI.
60UST
28-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Hi Pirelli people,
I am due for 4 new Pirelli P-Zeros. $430 each was the best price I got. No point buying anything else. Just wandering if we can possible get the "Pirelli Club" discount anywhere around Brisbane?
Another question is regarding the windscreen insurance. I was told that the replacement cost for the GTI Pirelli windscreen is over 2K so I got myself additional cover. What is your experience with this issue?
DeanCorp
28-08-2010, 09:52 AM
Hi Pirelli people,
I am due for 4 new Pirelli P-Zeros. $430 each was the best price I got. No point buying anything else. Just wandering if we can possible get the "Pirelli Club" discount anywhere around Brisbane?
Another question is regarding the windscreen insurance. I was told that the replacement cost for the GTI Pirelli windscreen is over 2K so I got myself additional cover. What is your experience with this issue?
The P-Zero's are shit tyres in my opinion. I just sold my 4 x tyres for $500. I think there are better tyres out there. If I were you, I would buy the Michelin PS3's they are on special until the end of this month for about $280 each!
60UST
28-08-2010, 10:03 AM
The P-Zero's are shit tyres in my opinion. I just sold my 4 x tyres for $500. I think there are better tyres out there. If I were you, I would buy the Michelin PS3's they are on special until the end of this month for about $280 each!
you may be right DeanCorp but I drive Golf GTI Pirelli not Golf GTI Michelin so there is no choice here :-(
Jeffie
28-08-2010, 10:54 AM
Thats the most ridiculous thing ive heard.
But PS3s are not the way to go either. PS2s or F1 a/s' are the only choice...
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