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r207
07-04-2010, 07:37 AM
Hey Guys,

need some advice on an exhaust for the r36. I recently had a tune done (dec 09) by City performance and it did wonders for the car. Then I added the Gruppe M carbon intake (this mod is one way or the other... not overly impressed)

Now i had an exhaust fitted by a local supplier (dont want to bash anyone) that claimed good gains and a good product however im fussy and it was not up to my standard in terms of build quality and sound...

As far as i can see my only option is an Arqray however id love any suggestion on an alternative if anyone has a suggestion...

Paolo
07-04-2010, 09:54 AM
i hope there is a Capristo or Kreissig for your car

r207
07-04-2010, 10:11 AM
i dont think so

AP
07-04-2010, 10:34 AM
Turbo Kit!

Frenchie
07-04-2010, 10:37 AM
^ x2

Contact those 2 companies above. I am sure you they should be able to accomodate you.

r207
07-04-2010, 01:51 PM
no turbo kit....yet.

maybe hpa front brakes they look nice.

at this stage my only option is Arqray, anyone got one they can comment on

AP
07-04-2010, 02:02 PM
Send a email to capristo, I'm sure they could do an exhaust system for you..

Frenchie
07-04-2010, 02:48 PM
no turbo kit....yet.

maybe hpa front brakes they look nice.

at this stage my only option is Arqray, anyone got one they can comment on

I used to have an Arqray on my R32 - great exhaust, awesome craftmanship, sound I loved - deep/low note.

Have you tried SS, Milltek ?

r207
08-04-2010, 07:54 AM
i hope there is a Capristo or Kreissig for your car

both companies have denied making an exhaust for my car....

ive got two options,

Supersprint full extractors back or the arqray cat back...... im thinking arqray because from the clips ive heard the arqray sounds alot deeper and seems to be better quality....

thoughts?

G-rig
08-04-2010, 08:29 AM
Don't know if i'd bother with headers cost too much to install if they are anything like the golf where you have to pull of the front of the car.

Also some well known brand ones lose power. Cat backs are easy, arqray would be cool.

Tim
08-04-2010, 08:43 AM
what are your concerns with the current exhaust?
Too loud? Too quiet? Too boomy? Welds arent pretty? Dont like the tips? Isnt it possible to address the concerns without going to the expense of a complete new system?

Not all exhausts are created equally. What are your requirements though?

AP
08-04-2010, 09:05 AM
both companies have denied making an exhaust for my car....

ive got two options,

Supersprint full extractors back or the arqray cat back...... im thinking arqray because from the clips ive heard the arqray sounds alot deeper and seems to be better quality....

thoughts?
City performance built me a full stainless steel custom exhaust..
Give Allissio a call and he we make you a custom one!!

r207
08-04-2010, 09:42 AM
what are your concerns with the current exhaust?
Too loud? Too quiet? Too boomy? Welds arent pretty? Dont like the tips? Isnt it possible to address the concerns without going to the expense of a complete new system?

Not all exhausts are created equally. What are your requirements though?

its stock......

Jig
30-04-2010, 05:30 PM
Hi R207:

I spoke to Capristo and confirmed also by Ramspeed that they do not have any plans in developing an exhaust for the R36. There are only 2 aftermarket companies that supplies exhaust for the R36. Bastuck and Superprint. Bastuck is from Germany. They had an R32 cat back exhaust but it had drone tendencies confirmed by Bastuck themselves. I am not sure what it will be for the R36. Supersprint is from Italy. They also have a cat back system but just check whether its for LHD or RHD. Supersprint have good gains when I had it on my R32. The sound is pretty good too. They have racing and sport center exhausts. I am not sure what they mean by racing but I do hope its not equivalent to a non-res because the non-res I had for the R32 was drony at higher gears. Try and have a go at the Supersprint but do ask questions about the sound. You might be the 1st person to do this on an R36 so that's bragging rights right there.

I agree with you, the R36 exhaust sound is very conservative and it needs to be better than this. It is an R afterall.

I am considering the HGP turbo kit for the R36 from Germany which will include a full TBE. Price is not bad also for what you get. That could be an option for you if you decide to boost your R36.

scotty1991
30-04-2010, 05:57 PM
April 2009

Release of evolve VW R36 exhaust

evolve technik is proud to anounce the release of its world first cat-back exhaust system for the VW R36 and VW Passat CC

They also offer a ECU tune

http://www.evolve-technik.com.au/products_car_db.php?l=3&b=Volkswagen&m=Passat&id=1430

AP
30-04-2010, 06:14 PM
Man seriously I would have City build you a custom one..
They really know there stuff when it comes to fab work..
Lotus custom
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4431772120_28229e718b_b.jpg
Turbo R
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3573/3304499583_1e571118d7_b.jpg
MMMmmmm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3304497001_f568849ccb_b.jpg
MMMmmmm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3340/3305289382_fb93379fa3_b.jpg

Frenchie
30-04-2010, 06:52 PM
April 2009

Release of evolve VW R36 exhaust

evolve technik is proud to anounce the release of its world first cat-back exhaust system for the VW R36 and VW Passat CC

They also offer a ECU tune

http://www.evolve-technik.com.au/products_car_db.php?l=3&b=Volkswagen&m=Passat&id=1430


I must be blind - can't see exhaust on website ?

Ap - God damn I must say that is a sexy custom job Ap - just need bigger tips >D

Capercat
30-04-2010, 07:37 PM
Man seriously I would have City build you a custom one..
They really know there stuff when it comes to fab work..
Lotus custom

Agreed, at least you don't have the hassle of shopping around.

G-rig
30-04-2010, 09:13 PM
AP's exhausts both look like pieces of art!

Just depends if they've done many V6's but shoudn't be too different from an R32 one you'd think.

zz2
30-04-2010, 09:26 PM
AP, the quality of those TIG welds does things to me in my pants.

god i love looking at qualtity welding

AP
30-04-2010, 10:45 PM
Man these guys can build anything...


AP's exhausts both look like pieces of art!

Just depends if they've done many V6's but shoudn't be too different from an R32 one you'd think.

Big Yellow
30-04-2010, 10:53 PM
Anthony, your exhausts look great! Workmanship is top class!

Very similar quality to the one i had made for mine!

r207
01-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Thanks for all the info guys it's great to get feedback.
I had an evolve exhaust on my car and as ap knows it was not the best quality to say the least. But Im not here to bash evolve. City performance did a tune for me and I have an arqray coming from japan on the 20th of may, titanium tips and all. I'll keep you all posted,,, Ross

Paolo
01-05-2010, 06:40 PM
arqray - high end Japanese quality exhausts >D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6062ekElFoU

silverbullet
01-05-2010, 07:06 PM
arqray. nice!

AP
01-05-2010, 07:21 PM
Cool!! Cat wait to hear that 3.6 beast roar!!

Paolo
01-05-2010, 07:27 PM
i saw what you typed before you edited it Johno hahaha but i agree, i don't think Arqray meant for their exhaust note to be over the top but almost stock like but with more bass without raspyness. That's just my experience from my catback and hearing bigwills one in person

Jig
01-05-2010, 07:31 PM
Thanks for all the info guys it's great to get feedback.
I had an evolve exhaust on my car and as ap knows it was not the best quality to say the least. But Im not here to bash evolve. City performance did a tune for me and I have an arqray coming from japan on the 20th of may, titanium tips and all. I'll keep you all posted,,, Ross

Yes please. Would love to hear it in person if you dont mind...

r207
02-05-2010, 12:26 AM
well when its on the car you can all take it for a spin

AP
02-05-2010, 12:39 AM
well when its on the car you can all take it for a spin

Sick

scotty1991
02-05-2010, 02:31 AM
well when its on the car you can all take it for a spin

I forsee a long que

Frenchie
02-05-2010, 09:06 AM
well when its on the car you can all take it for a spin

Queue for Ross's test drive >D

1. Frenchie
2. Jig
3. Ap

bigwill
02-05-2010, 10:27 AM
ross, look forward to hearing the arqray on the r36 :D glad you went with titanium tips!

Paolo
02-05-2010, 10:49 AM
he offered so ill be glad to have a go in an r36 >D
1. Frenchie
2. Jig
3. Ap
4. Paolo

MasterKevin
02-05-2010, 10:32 PM
1. Frenchie
2. Jig
3. Ap
4. Paolo
5. MasterKevin :D

hereandthere
03-05-2010, 11:38 AM
Rsco,

Will i be able to hear you from my place >D ?

Jig
03-05-2010, 12:35 PM
Rsco,

Will i be able to hear you from my place >D ?

Welcome to the forum hereandthere. Dont forget to post your ride and a small intro into this site.

r207
03-05-2010, 12:45 PM
Rsco,

Will i be able to hear you from my place >D ?

you sure will Sammy....

hereandthere
03-05-2010, 03:16 PM
Ross, any chance i can jump the que? LOL

AP
03-05-2010, 03:55 PM
Ross, any chance i can jump the que? LOL
No way mate wait your turn!! Haha

hereandthere
03-05-2010, 04:32 PM
hay you can't blame a bloke for trying :D

at this rate Ross will soon be selling tickets.

BTW guys and girls I'm a VAG family member but not a specifically of the VW religion, althought between Ross and syd_32 (Billy) i hope that you accept me into the fold

cheers

Rob32R
30-05-2010, 01:01 AM
have you got pictures of your r32 ross please.

AP
30-05-2010, 10:08 AM
have you got pictures of your r32 ross please.

Don't you mean R36 rob?

Jig
30-05-2010, 12:41 PM
hay you can't blame a bloke for trying :D

at this rate Ross will soon be selling tickets.

BTW guys and girls I'm a VAG family member but not a specifically of the VW religion, althought between Ross and syd_32 (Billy) i hope that you accept me into the fold

cheers

Of course mate.

r207
31-05-2010, 12:02 AM
Don't you mean R36 rob?

It's an r36... Didn't you see it in summer hill????

r207
05-06-2010, 09:26 AM
it has arrived.... city performance are doing a dyno before and after on the car on Wednesday...

10d
05-06-2010, 09:34 AM
it has arrived.... city performance are doing a dyno before and after on the car on Wednesday...

Good stuff!

AP
05-06-2010, 09:55 AM
Made can't wait to see the differece!!

Jig
05-06-2010, 10:26 AM
Cant wait to hear the sound.

G-rig
05-06-2010, 04:45 PM
This should something to see!

Frenchie
05-06-2010, 07:22 PM
Nice one Ross time to put his bad boy to the test.

r207
10-06-2010, 03:58 PM
It's on the car... It's got an awesome note very r32 ish.. Just wait for it to bed in at the moment. Only prob I have is I think it's a bit loud. That's my opinion. My wife drove it and she thinks it's awesome .... Hmm I must be getting old...

If you want to hear it I'll be out and about tonight so might be able to meet somewhere on the northside...

Jig
10-06-2010, 04:38 PM
It's on the car... It's got an awesome note very r32 ish.. Just wait for it to bed in at the moment. Only prob I have is I think it's a bit loud. That's my opinion. My wife drove it and she thinks it's awesome .... Hmm I must be getting old...

If you want to hear it I'll be out and about tonight so might be able to meet somewhere on the northside...

Are you at CP now? if yes, I am coming over Ross.

gead
10-06-2010, 06:13 PM
any chance of a soundgrab for people south of Sydney ;)

Bizi
10-06-2010, 07:30 PM
Tonight or earlier today?

Anyone confirmed when and if it's at CP? :)

r207
10-06-2010, 08:55 PM
Im not there now... It's Thursday night and Im in manly..

AP
10-06-2010, 09:22 PM
Is it done yet Ross?

r207
11-06-2010, 12:07 AM
Oh yes it's on the car picked it up this morning... Fk it's loud and it screams.. Exhaust pop is more evident however driving normally is just a bit loud... Who knows I'll probably get sick if it after a week and an r36 owner can grab a bargain

Paolo
11-06-2010, 12:12 AM
interesting review, i thought it would have just a bassy note like most of the Arqray range. How were the before and after dynos

stephen8512
11-06-2010, 12:19 AM
interesting review, i thought it would have just a bassy note like most of the Arqray range. How were the before and after dynos

x2. Interested to see this too. Cant wait to hear this also at the warehouse meet

Frenchie
11-06-2010, 12:22 AM
Oh yes it's on the car picked it up this morning... Fk it's loud and it screams.. Exhaust pop is more evident however driving normally is just a bit loud... Who knows I'll probably get sick if it after a week and an r36 owner can grab a bargain

Well keep us posted Ross someone I know may be interested.

r207
11-06-2010, 03:23 PM
after all that i just had the exhaust removed... Too loud for me..

G-rig
11-06-2010, 03:40 PM
Oh, that's no good mate, can't they just use a better muffler or add some resonators?

That's the problem with custom jobbies, you're not sure what you're getting and can't listen to it first.

Big Yellow
11-06-2010, 03:41 PM
Oh, that's no good mate, can't they just use a better muffler or add some resonators?

That's the problem with custom jobbies, you're not sure what you're getting and can't listen to it first.

this wasnt a custom job, it was the arqray wasn't it?

G-rig
11-06-2010, 04:17 PM
this wasnt a custom job, it was the arqray wasn't it?

My bad Terence, I was thinking of the GTI in the other thread, but goes to show even the brand name stuff can turn out a bit loud. It's a fairly personal thing too, how much noise is good.

Exhaust development for the R36 seems fairly limited so guess it takes time as the car is still pretty new.

r207
11-06-2010, 04:23 PM
ive given up, im happy with the stock exhaust and the gruppe m.....

nath_mk6
11-06-2010, 04:47 PM
sad to hear it turned out too loud, but the GruppeM and stock exhaust still produces a pretty nice sound :)

G-rig
11-06-2010, 04:50 PM
Don't have have a really nice Audio setup Ross? A droney/loud exhaust could work against it a bit anyway & agree stock sounds good too.

MasterKevin
11-06-2010, 06:10 PM
Each to their own :P loud to us young guys = yummy :D

G-rig
11-06-2010, 07:45 PM
Each to their own :P loud to us young guys = yummy :D

I must be getting old haha (but still keen on the RSC).

r207
11-06-2010, 11:50 PM
Each to their own :P loud to us young guys = yummy :D

Im just an old man keV... Oh I want my youth back

MasterKevin
12-06-2010, 12:08 AM
Im just an old man keV... Oh I want my youth back

haha your still young :D all good.

My old car measured 104 db from the exhaust at EPA LOL !

gead
17-06-2010, 12:22 PM
hey ross....what happened to the arqray?

Jig
17-06-2010, 12:30 PM
Yes. Do you have any video caps to tie us over until the Warehouse meet big guy?

gead
28-06-2010, 12:43 PM
hey ross, did you get my PM?