VW MKV Golf GTI Pirelli / Accord EURO

[mshl1979]

Just got confirmation that my HPA Coilovers are shipping today after waiting for 7 weeks. So figured it's good time to start the thread.

My VW Journey started in 05 when I was due to replace my EK series Honda Civic. Had a budget of around $45K needed to have 4 doors and AUTO (Wife couldn't drive manual and we only had one car between us).

Pretty much narrowed down to:
- Accord EURO Luxary
- Mazda 6 Sports Luxary
- VW GOLF GTI

Mazda 6 only came as a 4 speed auto back then so that killed it for me. I really wanted Xenon lights and sunroof and those options boosted the GTI to $50K inc DSG. No dealer was discounting cause there were up to 8 month waiting lists of the car.

Ended up picking up a 05 Graphite Euro with the OEM body kit for $45500. With no experience in modding, I spoke to my cousin who had a DC5 and he pointed me towards is Motor racing to have some Tein springs installed along with 18" Rays g-Game 77S and and Mugen front grill. Then with the guidance of the ozhonda forum installed my first intake. A comptech intake bought off ebay.

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The following year we needed to buy a 2nd car for the missus. She really wanted the VW Beetle but after some convincing by me and test driving the Golf after the beetle, she saw the light and we down the deposit for a 06 Black comfortline. At the last minute missus decided she liked bigger wheels and sports seats and we ended up getting a black 5 door sportline 06 MKV golf. Loved the car...

Come 2009 and after having a few little problems here and there with the Euro, I started looking at the 2nd hand market to see if there any good deals to be had on the MKV GTI with the understanding that the MK6 is coming soon. After a few weeks of hunting a demo 5 door MKV GTI Pirelli edition popped up for sale.... I really wanted either a white or UG. But the Pirelli was too tempting to refuse and after some negotiating I even got an awesome deal on the car. So on the 31st of July 2009 I drove away from McGrath with my Pirelli!!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4455750963_5a0833d32b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4456530760_3a34cda576_o.jpg

So what have been done so far??

- APR Stage 1 - Boy that made a difference
- Stubby antenna
- RNS-510
- HPA SHS Coilovers

What I'm looking for right??

REV555 inspired me to hunt down a complete set of Front and rear R32 brakes. Still looking, keep me in mind if any of you R32 owners are going to upgrade.

Have also ordered the Carbonio intake as well.

Most likely will be getting the S3 Intercooler next. Then who knows what will happen after.

[Capercat]

Interesting you have APR Stage 1,

I looked at APR's website & couldn't see a dedicated Pirelli tune. How is APR GTI stage 1 going to work with a Pirelli ECU?

I'm interested as I don't want to wait for the R, but rather purchase a well maintained Pirelli, preferably Graphite Blue.

[Clifton]

Small small small small world!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs490.ash1/26784_422961938168_529123168_5071755_6168725_n.jpg

Your accord is still going strong! Tastefully modded btw :)

[Field]

hahaha thats interesting, i bought a car from mcgraths not long ago

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4499692017_025b690072_o.jpg

look familiar? =D
i just couldn't resist the jdm styling when i saw it at the dealer
btw did u lower the car if so how much lower was it? mcgrath had no idea when i bought it

[Justin Fox]

^ LOL how funny :) SMALL WORLD INDEED!

[Capercat]

That photo looks like it was taken at the Cowan truck rest stop.

[Field]

It was, after going to terrigal with the vw golf crew we decided to go back amongst our group of friends with the cars above in cliftons post + a mk4 golf

[10d]

You've got good eye, Roc!

[Capercat]

Interesting you have APR Stage 1,

I looked at APR's website & couldn't see a dedicated Pirelli tune. How is APR GTI stage 1 going to work with a Pirelli ECU?

I'm interested as I don't want to wait for the R, but rather purchase a well maintained Pirelli, preferably Graphite Blue.

^^Can someone answer this question please. :)

[Justin Fox]

I just checked out the APR Australia site and it was there, yes they do have a Pirelli specific stage 1 option.

http://www.goapr.com.au/products/ecu_upgrade_8golfgti.html

[Capercat]

Yes! it was hiding from me the first time.

Stage I ECU Upgrade (EDITION 30 - PIRELLI EDITION)

The Pirelli edition GTI is fitted with a higher output motor than the regular GTI, this allows us to get greater gains from this model. APR extract 229kw & 435nm with factory smooth power delivery & reliability

Wow, 229kw & 435Nm from a simple Stage 1 tune :O am I reading this right?

[Kooki]

Impressive

[10d]

Yes! it was hiding from me the first time.

Stage I ECU Upgrade (EDITION 30 - PIRELLI EDITION)

The Pirelli edition GTI is fitted with a higher output motor than the regular GTI, this allows us to get greater gains from this model. APR extract 229kw & 435nm with factory smooth power delivery & reliability

Wow, 229kw & 435Nm from a simple Stage 1 tune :O am I reading this right?
Always take it with a bit of salt :)

[mshl1979]

APR STG 1 Pirelli normally pull around 170Kw at the wheel judging from the last dyno day....

[mshl1979]

Small small small small world!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs490.ash1/26784_422961938168_529123168_5071755_6168725_n.jpg

Your accord is still going strong! Tastefully modded btw :)

Holy crap... I've been keeping my eye out for it but couldn't find it... and little did I know you guys was on the Terrigal drive day as well....

[mshl1979]

sweet!! another euro to VW convert!!! i use to have a euro too! this was my old ride

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?396-MK5-Jetta

Nice choice in the pirelli. a stage 1 APR tune on a pirelli goes hard!!!!!

RE: the carbonio intake, if u can later on down the track, see if u can upgrade to a proper intake. the carbonio is just a replacement for the OEM air scoop and doesnt give the most gains compared to soem other intakes. although it does look nice in CF :)

Only reason why I'm considering the Carbonio is that it's in-expensive and would complement the STG2 well.

[mshl1979]

hahaha thats interesting, i bought a car from mcgraths not long ago

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4499692017_025b690072_o.jpg

look familiar? =D
i just couldn't resist the jdm styling when i saw it at the dealer
btw did u lower the car if so how much lower was it? mcgrath had no idea when i bought it

Man such a small world... but it's good seeing the car go to someone who appreciates it. Looks like it's getting the love it deserves. Lovely car and still it miss it greatly... would have kept it longer if it was a manual.

The car is sitting on Tein springs. I believe it is 35MM up front and 30MM at the back. Did you get a proper MTM inspection on the car??? The little problem I mentioned above was the left front shock was starting to leak a little... so I was looking at replacing it with Bilstien shocks.

The tryes on the car was less than 6 months old as well. How much did you pay for it if I may ask? I saw it on carsales for $28,880

[Clifton]

Holy crap... I've been keeping my eye out for it but couldn't find it... and little did I know you guys was on the Terrigal drive day as well....

Haha, we actually had our own cruise up to Terrigal the week after the vwgolf cruise.

Good taste in cars!

[Field]

yeah for a first car it's a sweet ride and im loving it, i didn't expect to see something so modded at a dealer tho.
Arr it did look like it was lower at the front.

Erm i didn't get a proper inspection on the car, i had trust in the dealer
and when the first problem came i took it back and they mention something bout the driver's shaft leaking and
had that fixed other than that i haven't noticed any leaks anywhere else, there are still a few small problems
here and there that i haven't had time to fix.

yea it was around 29k on carsales my parents did a bit of haggling and ended up costing me $26,600, i was quite
happy with that deal

[Rayjuice]

holy crap it is a very small world...
lol i knew that car looked familiar

[mshl1979]

HPA SHS Coilovers arrived today... booked in at Top One Auto on Friday to get them installed.

Ordered myself a VAGCOM on the weekend as well from Dub Addiction.. this came in today as well...

[nath_mk6]

HPA SHS Coilovers arrived today... booked in at Top One Auto on Friday to get them installed.

Ordered myself a VAGCOM on the weekend as well from Dub Addiction.. this came in today as well...
Haha 10d is taking me to his other home on Thursday shame we will miss you

[10d]

HPA SHS Coilovers arrived today... booked in at Top One Auto on Friday to get them installed.

Ordered myself a VAGCOM on the weekend as well from Dub Addiction.. this came in today as well...

Ah, Dedi was telling me that he got another Golf for friday.
Now I know it's you. Haha.

[nath_mk6]

Should get him as a sponsor he gets plenty of business through the forum!

[10d]

Should get him as a sponsor he gets plenty of business through the forum!
He hates Golf! Haha. Wait I'm slowly converting him. Mine used to be the only one there. It is spreading now, like flu >D

[mshl1979]

Haha... Anything special I should keep my eye out for when do the install?

[mshl1979]

Some Pics of the new toys:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4519515512_d234e23a10.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4518883655_7c52808d23.jpg
Sportline Skin on the RNS-510
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4518880111_5264443aaf.jpg
THE MFD Integrated to the RNS-510 showing directions shows street names as well
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[Paolo]

lucky guy! time to give me a ride on Saturday!

[10d]

Michael,

How's your new suspension?

[mshl1979]

Good mate.... can't believe it's still rubbing when cornering hard though.... I'm on the stock 18s and the HPA can't even go that low.

It actually pushed the right hand side plastic guard out.

There was a small oddity with the install... the rear suspension is both adjusted at it's lowest point but the driver side is a little lower. Going to take Top One's advice to let it settle before I get it adjusted.

Quite impressed with the HPA coilovers though.

Ride is near identical to stock and much better damped, no longer getting the harshness that cause rattles in the car. This really surprised me. Ride doesn't pitch and dive as much any more and accelarting hard out of corners seems to have more bite now, this makes you want to get on the trottle earlier. Traction control is now coming on more often.... I assume it's because I'have more foot down rather backing off like I would before.

The car still rolls a fair bit this has improved only a little over stock. Wasn't going to consider sway bars before but I think i'm going to need them now.

[AP]

Have you done the screw mod under the front guards

[mshl1979]

No not yet AP going to do that today and get the wheel alignment re-done too. Just surprised I needed to do it that is all.

[G-rig]

Wow, Nice Accord Euro & Pirelli.. Look like some good driving there.

[G-rig]

Interesting you have APR Stage 1,

I looked at APR's website & couldn't see a dedicated Pirelli tune. How is APR GTI stage 1 going to work with a Pirelli ECU?

I'm interested as I don't want to wait for the R, but rather purchase a well maintained Pirelli, preferably Graphite Blue.


^^Can someone answer this question please. :)

Maybe give Guy or Derek at EA a call?

[mshl1979]

Picture of ride height after HPA install. Makes the wheels look bigger.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4531032772_8cd61e8753_b.jpg

[Paolo]

very nice height! thats what ill be happy with because any lower i would probably scrape on my drive way =S

[kaoticice]

perfect stance..

[mshl1979]

Ordered and shipping now!!

Upgraded OEM DV (being a cheap ass... the forge was tempting)
Upgraded OEM PCV (^^^)
HAWK Ceramic Pads Front and Rear
Carbonio Intake (Yes I'm APR tuned <--- heard 10D lost power by going the Gruppe so decided to stick with the Carbonio)

What else is coming soon.....
Forge Twincooler (Waiting for Ian to provide a quote - was going to go the S3 but the Pirelli is not that much smaller and the install cost for the S3 is double the Forge)
New rotors (Can't decide on which ones to get)
Premium bluetooth kit

[stephen8512]

Looking good mate!!!

What PCV fix did u get? where from and how much if u dont mind me asking? Im thinking of getting a EUROJET PCV fix myself...

[mshl1979]

See below this is a kit that includes:

•OEM Upgraded Regulator Valve ("E" Version)
•Gasket for valve
•Upgraded valve cover breather tube with internal check valve

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_V--2.0T/Engine/Emission/PCV/ES8209/

The Eurojet is on there as well:

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_V--2.0T/Engine/Emission/PCV/ES1844193/

[stephen8512]

nice!

any reason why u went the OEM one rather than the eurojet? wanted to keep th OEM'ness of it?

[mshl1979]

The OEM kit actually looks better built than the EuroJet one.... and yes trying to keep OEM to a certain degree.

[mshl1979]

Open air vent grilles just arrived. Bought of EBAY for $40 delivered.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1217/4594173637_248770ee47.jpg

[nath_mk6]

The Pirelli will certainly breath better with those :)

[MasterKevin]

Very nice progress you have there my friend :)

[burgs]

Cars looking good mate, love the fog light surrounds :)

[mshl1979]

Update: teach me for going cheap... these fit but the opening for the fog lamp isn't quite right... it seems these are designed for a different set of fogs.

I bit the bullet and went and ordered the Forge Intercooler though....

[bwen]

Ride height looks great!

[mshl1979]

Ride height looks great!

Yeah loving at the moment... makes the car look more sqauted and agressive. Has weighted up the steering at low speeds as well.

[G-rig]

Good stance mate, front could come down a touch IMO, but prob see how it goes.

Must feel a bit more planted.

[mshl1979]

It's settled a bit more now so more in-line with the rear.

[mshl1979]

Other stuff just got delivered...

UPRGRADE OEM PCV
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/4597485806_7d5d7f283a.jpg

HAWK Ceramic Front and Rear
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/4597485508_d3dab84bd1.jpg

OEM UPGRADE Revision DV
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3544/4597485274_2efc7154f6.jpg

Carbonio Intake
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1023/4597485092_f644dc4c31.jpg

[mshl1979]

All installed.

The DV being next to the intake in the Pirelli made this alot simplier.

The breather hose was a little hard to get too because of it's location otherwise everything else is perfect.

DSG paddles also installed.

Car is idling a little odd could just be ECU needs to adjust.

[stephen8512]

pics of the PCV upgrade installed please?

[10d]

You got busy today, Michael!
Good work there!

[Jig]

your not wasting time mate. Keep it coming.

[mshl1979]

Picked this up on Tuesday for my wife to replace the VW Golf MKV Sportline we sold.

And no it's not an "S" and yes it is underpowered but the wife likes it.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4625717179_8c86170106.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/4625717015_8dbf53aaf5.jpg

[stephen8512]

Nice pickup!!! That looks awesome.....love R56 mini's..........

Just a tad off topic, but do u think u can post pics of the OEM revision PCV? I just wante to see what ti looks like before I buy the EUROJET one.

[en.elle]

Picked this up on Tuesday for my wife to replace the VW Golf MKV Sportline we sold.

And no it's not an "S" and yes it is underpowered but the wife likes it.


Nice mini! Love those white rims and front fog/spot lights! :)

[nath_mk6]

nice picup!

[mshl1979]

Nice pickup!!! That looks awesome.....love R56 mini's..........

Just a tad off topic, but do u think u can post pics of the OEM revision PCV? I just wante to see what ti looks like before I buy the EUROJET one.

It's this one Stephen. It nearly looks identical to stock but the breath hose and PCV now has additional check valves.

I believe the Eurojet retains the stock PCV but changes the U shape tubing going from the PCV to the engine. It adds the check valve to the tubing.

http://c1552172.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/6810_x300.jpg

Looks similar to this

http://vagdrivers.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40537

but mine is the "E" Version which requires the metal breather hose covered in this thread.

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60428

[stephen8512]

Oh okay.

Do u have pics of them installed?

[mshl1979]

I have to take the engine cover off. It looks identical stock.

[mshl1979]

Ok got a few more goodies:

OSIR Foot Rest
OSIR Rear Spolier

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1267/4692010507_eb2c026ce2.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4692009949_faeff6bbcc.jpg

[10d]

Nice!

[mshl1979]

Just got back from the Renualt Dyno Day @ JEM. I was the only Golf there....

Was expecting to get 170KW @ the wheels. I ended up getting 185.8KW over three runs. I was shocked along with a few of the Renualt guys.

Nothing to compare against though as no other Golf was there today.

Dyno was a Mainline Dyno (Same as the one in Hornsby on the last VW/Audi Day) But different conditions and different operators would mean a variance of up to 10%.

Regardless, I'm so happy. To put things into perspective:

- EVO 6 TME (STOCK) - 158KW
- Megane Sport 225 - 152KW
- 4-5 - Clio Sport - AVG of 100KW
- Subaru 02/03 WRX - 118KW

The operator said car was running helps well and felt the power right through the rev range. He said car is still running Rich so can still get more power out of it.

APR Tuned Stage 1 with Carbonio Intake and OEM Upgrade DV and PCV

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4692644100_8c9da2f690_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4692643720_8ccd6e0d0d_b.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1U1lt6oow

[Rayjuice]

Congrats!! HOLY CRAP great results:D

[Paolo]

VERY impressive Michael! maybe i should have went with APR hahaha =P wheres your torque curve by the way?

Also which spoiler finish did you get? theres only a $60 difference between the plastic and carbon fibre choices from Rennenhaus. I'll do this later on as well hrmmmmmmmmmmmmm

btw can't hear anything from the clip just looks like one of the operators holding your car down on the dyno, maybe from too much powwwaaa!

[mshl1979]

Thanks Paolo and Rayjuice.

Was wondering the same thing when I relooked at the print out but I was running late too a lunch appointment so had leave before I got a chance to ask the guys. The torque figure is at the bottom though 423NM but no graph.

Yeah screwed up on the clip when I did the rotation on the editing tool it lost audio.

I think the Carbonio Intake just works well with the tune. Who knows, I could just have a lucky one. The DV probaly a made a difference. I do want to head out to isMotor Racing and test on the Dyno dynamics just too confirm. Cause it does seem extreamly high for a STG 1

I really wanted the Carbon Fibre one. But if I got that I would have gone the whole lot and ordered the Front Mask / Side mirrors / Fog covers all in Carbon Fibre to complete the look. When I thought about it more I decided that I like the car how it is now. So I got the fibreglass one. It's in the workshop being color coded now. Fibreglass option + color coding ends up costing more than the CF one.

[mshl1979]

Hmm looking at the graph just surprised how linear the power delivery is compared to some other cars.

[DeanCorp]

Nice figures, but rigged dyno.

[MasterKevin]

Very very nice result buddy :)

Kevin

[mshl1979]

Nice figures, but rigged dyno.

Ahhh.... yeah....

[mshl1979]

Decided to go to is Motor Racing for another run on there Dyno Dynamics Dyno (Same run Justin/10D/Kev went to) to verify the numbers. After speaking to a few people numbers do look unreasonably high for just STG 1. Seeing if they can fit me on Tuesday.

[DeanCorp]

Cool, sounds good. Let us know how you go. It just doesn't make sense to be pulling that much power with this mods. I'd say 170-175kw at best.

[mshl1979]

Nice figures, but rigged dyno.

Mate, appreciate feedback but don't appreciate comments like above. You got pissed off about people calling you a liar on the pirelli thread but that's pretty much what you are calling me.

You also discrediting the guys at JEM who ran the dyno day.

FYI this was Renault dyno day which the guys on ozrenault extended a invite out to us.

A stock EVO 6 TME ran 158kw and the clios ran around 100kw on the same day.

[DeanCorp]

Mate, I wasn't trying to upset you or put you down rather just realize that the figure it gave you is wrong or misleading. I definitely do not think your lying!!!

I may even say impossible. Its quite difficult to say what you mean on a forum without it being interpreted wrong. But im glad your getting another run.

[Justin Fox]

Nice figures, but rigged dyno.
rigged - To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain.

DeanCorp. It's pretty obvious what you're trying to say but how you've gone about saying it is far from constructive and the tone of it is all wrong. A little bit of consideration when posting on a forum goes a LONG way so I'd appreciate it (lots) if you were to try a little bit harder around here.


Decided to go to is Motor Racing for another run on there Dyno Dynamics Dyno (Same run Justin/10D/Kev went to) to verify the numbers.
That's cool Michael so long as you don't feel the "need" to. In the end of the day you've already paid for a dyno run and you got a smashing figure to frame up on the wall! If Indy's dyno chart reads a lot lower I know which one I'd be framing up on the wall :lol: :)

[kaoticice]

Decided to go to is Motor Racing for another run on there Dyno Dynamics Dyno (Same run Justin/10D/Kev went to) to verify the numbers. After speaking to a few people numbers do look unreasonably high for just STG 1. Seeing if they can fit me on Tuesday.

I've seen from various sources, that turbo cars like the GTI tend to have a huge variety in power. For a Pirelli stage 1 running 185ish may look really high, but certainly not impossible =D

Could u post some of the results of the day, that will be good to see if every1 else is reading higher.

[mshl1979]

Mate, I wasn't trying to upset you or put you down rather just realize that the figure it gave you is wrong or misleading. I definitely do not think your lying!!!

I may even say impossible. Its quite difficult to say what you mean on a forum without it being interpreted wrong. But im glad your getting another run.

I agree it does seem high but I wouldn't say impossible. We know for a fact stg 1 pirelli's can pull on average 170 kw.

I've got the Carbonio intake which matches to the apr tune. Add a few kw's there.

Factor in a variance I'm weather. It was freezing yesterday. Add another few kw's there.

Difference between cars some performing better than others from factory. E.g. Hothactch's gti got good numbers from a stg 1 tune.

Then you got arguably the biggest difference, the dyno operator. The clios and the Evo 6 all pulled numbers that was expected on the same day. He also didn't seem to have any problems with the dsg. 4th gear run. Ran it three times all three times was in the 185 range.

In saying all that I'm not disagreeing with you that it does seem high. Hence I want to give it another go on another dyno.

[mshl1979]

I've seen from various sources, that turbo cars like the GTI tend to have a huge variety in power. For a Pirelli stage 1 running 185ish may look really high, but certainly not impossible =D

Could u post some of the results of the day, that will be good to see if every1 else is reading higher.

The numbers of the cars who ran before me are up the top. Speaking to the owners of the respective cars the numbers are all within expectation. The evo 6 is probably the best benchmark. One meganes who pulled 152kw didn't expect to hit such a number from bone stock. But he bought his car 2nd hand and didn't know if it was flashed or not.

[G-rig]

My car is running tops though, the cool weather helps. There are a fair few variables as you mentioned with dyno runs, can't always compare different brand dynos done at different times of the year and by different operators etc.

[10d]

Michael,

Don't worry about proving anything to anyone. Just make sure you are happy. It is your car.
I do what I do to my car because I want to and I'm happy with it. That's the bottom line. I don't care if it's not making a lot of power, nor look the best. I'm just happy with the way it drives and there's always room for improvement but one step at a time. :)

[mshl1979]

rigged - To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain.

DeanCorp. It's pretty obvious what you're trying to say but how you've gone about saying it is far from constructive and the tone of it is all wrong. A little bit of consideration when posting on a forum goes a LONG way so I'd appreciate it (lots) if you were to try a little bit harder around here.


That's cool Michael so long as you don't feel the "need" to. In the end of the day you've already paid for a dyno run and you got a smashing figure to frame up on the wall! If Indy's dyno chart reads a lot lower I know which one I'd be framing up on the wall :lol: :)

I'm going for the 2nd run for myself. I'm keen to find out what numbers the car is running. Hopefully it isn't significantly lower. Going in to is motor I'm expecting to run lower numbers both from your comments on your post and the numbers tendy ran. We'll see on Tuesday what the outcome is.

Hopefully I do have a special pirelli a opposed to JEM screwing it up.

[nath_mk6]

Michael,

Don't worry about proving anything to anyone. Just make sure you are happy. It is your car.
I do what I do to my car because I want to and I'm happy with it. That's the bottom line. I don't care if it's not making a lot of power, nor look the best. I'm just happy with the way it drives and there's always room for improvement but one step at a time. :)

spot on 10d, thats exactly my philospohy here, something I was explaining to the wife last night too, its nice to have compliments from others, but in the end everything you do is for yourself and if you're happy then who gives a toss what the haters say >D

Anyway good luck with the second dyno, hopefully the numbers stack up for you :)

[Jeffie]

Mate dont waste your time or money going on another dyno. Just if you get any further mods done, go back to Adams dyno so at least youll have the same dyno and operator for more direct comparisons.

If I got 145 and he was saying that should equate to 180 at the fly, it looks like Mainlines take about 20% driveline loss. Is that about right for your expected fly output?

[Jeffie]

Arent the S3 and Pirelli engines the same? Would there be any reason why yours wouldnt pull the same numbers with the same mods as Robby Jais car?


At that time the car (with only a Revo stage 1 Tune and CAI), dynoed an ok 184kw & 350Nm atw which approximately equates to a figure of 240kw & 420Nm. Not too Shabby.

[G-rig]

If the S3 was in FWD mode you'd think they would be similar, and AWD S3 should be a bit less due to more losses? Then again seems to vary how much they come with out of the factory. Robs was a hub dyno too IIRC.

[mshl1979]

Mate dont waste your time or money going on another dyno. Just if you get any further mods done, go back to Adams dyno so at least youll have the same dyno and operator for more direct comparisons.

If I got 145 and he was saying that should equate to 180 at the fly, it looks like Mainlines take about 20% driveline loss. Is that about right for your expected fly output?

Hey Jeffie,

Regardless I'm more curious than trying to prove anything. I'm never going to go Stage II+ (I value the life of my tyres=)). The Dyno Dynamics at isMotor Racing would be a good comparison as Tendy and the guys just came from that less than a week ago. I'm happy regardless if I get 170 (hopefully not anything lower) or 185 but it's more for my own knowledge and too see if I have a freak Pirelli haha

If I end up getting 175+ on the Dyno dynamics I know the mainline numbers at JEM was accurate.

The car i think already has too much power. Struggling to put the power down with just the coilovers. Next mod would be the whiteline anti lift kit. Don't want to go sway bars want to retain some level of comfort.

[mshl1979]

Arent the S3 and Pirelli engines the same? Would there be any reason why yours wouldnt pull the same numbers with the same mods as Robby Jais car?

The S3 has a big intercooler but then you factor in 4wd driveline loss and that sounds about right too be honest went compared to my numbers.

[mshl1979]

http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15730&start=150

Some of the numbers the Renault guys ran if anyone is interested.

[DeanCorp]

Let us know what you got :)

[mshl1979]

Just got back...

Headed to IS Motor Racing after the 10.00 session at the VW Advanced Driver Training.

A nice white R35 GTR just finished off the dyno and pulled 340KW ATW.

My car was up next we ran the car three times. Power was up on the JEM Mainline Dyno.

FYI 186.7KW ATW Pictures below. Indy from IS Motor also mentioned that the car is still running quite rich and should still be good for a some more KW. (Same as what the JEM guys said)

Really happy with the result, confirming that I've got a special Pirelli. Now I need Den525's car with STG 1 with APR to see if it would run similar numbers or if I've just got a SPECIAL PIRELLI.

This was the same dyno 10d/Justin/Kevin ran a few days ago. Conditions are pretty much the same.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/4702844196_8187e5a9e3_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4702209991_f8586bed30.jpg

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[Paolo]

good stuff! when i went to the K04 dyno day, i was pretty sure that APR and GIAC stage 1 cars got around the 170 mark but you're result definitely makes the claim that stage 1 = 230kw at the fly very possible. Now to see what a stage 2+ Pirelli actually gets. I'm looking at you tinto

[stephen8512]

wow! impressive numbers!!!

[G-rig]

good stuff! when i went to the K04 dyno day, i was pretty sure that APR and GIAC stage 1 cars got around the 170 mark but you're result definitely makes the claim that stage 1 = 230kw at the fly very possible. Now to see what a stage 2+ Pirelli actually gets. I'm looking at you tinto

That's pretty sweet for stage 1...
Goes to show the claims are pretty accurate.

[10d]

Sweet!!

[HCGTI]

That's pretty sweet for stage 1...
Goes to show the claims are pretty accurate.

agreed. they are very nice numbers indeed.
but as to say the claims are very accurate? this is the only car to be close to that claim.
so yes, accurate claim but consistency? nope.

[G-rig]

agreed. they are very nice numbers indeed.
but as to say the claims are very accurate? this is the only car to be close to that claim.
so yes, accurate claim but consistency? nope.

I haven't been following it that closely, assume there would be a lot that get ~180 fwkw.

[burgs]

Congrats on the result, big gains for minimal mods :)

[HCGTI]

I haven't been following it that closely, assume there would be a lot that get ~180 fwkw.

nope.
the recent vw/audi dyno day here in Vic, all stg1 pirellis got around 170 regardless of tune. ( i think a bluefin one got the highest.)
so i think this one might be a freak pirelli.

[G-rig]

Yeah, they could all be different from the factory and who knows whether the gains are on top of that or as a total.

The R32's varied heaps from the Dyno day Terence went to (even ones with the same tune, in this case GIAC).

[AP]

Great result!!

[DeanCorp]

Brilliant!! VERY impressive!!

[bwen]

That is a great power figure! Power curve looks quite steep at ~3000rpm, do other Stage 1 Pirellis have roughly the same dyno graph?

[mshl1979]

Thanks guys appreciate the comments. Just glad and happy that the car STG1 has that much power. Not sure about other Pirellis Bwen the only other Pirelli I've seen on the Dyno is Paolo but his is stage 2 and pulls 200+ KW ATW.

Only other engine mod i'm going to do now is a bigger intercooler.

Also need to start putting some cash aside for a BBK.

On a side note picked up my OSIR rear spolier from my local painter. Hunting down some 3M Automotive tape to get the thing on. Anyone have any good suggestions on where to buy some 3M Automotive tape?

[DeanCorp]

Thanks guys appreciate the comments. Just glad and happy that the car STG1 has that much power. Not sure about other Pirellis Bwen the only other Pirelli I've seen on the Dyno is Paolo but his is stage 2 and pulls 200+ KW ATW.

Only other engine mod i'm going to do now is a bigger intercooler.

Also need to start putting some cash aside for a BBK.

On a side note picked up my OSIR rear spolier from my local painter. Hunting down some 3M Automotive tape to get the thing on. Anyone have any good suggestions on where to buy some 3M Automotive tape?

Officeworks have it :)

[mshl1979]

Officeworks have it :)

You serious?? Wouldn't expect that but there is one on Epping Rd right near my office doesn't to hurt too ask I guess

[DeanCorp]

Could this be yours ;)

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98468

[mshl1979]

Could this be yours ;)

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98468

Lol dean I'll be dissapointed with only 185 if it was.

Twin turbo Pirelli hmmm...... Let me change my sig!!!!

[S&H]

Thanks guys appreciate the comments. Just glad and happy that the car STG1 has that much power. Not sure about other Pirellis Bwen the only other Pirelli I've seen on the Dyno is Paolo but his is stage 2 and pulls 200+ KW ATW.

Only other engine mod i'm going to do now is a bigger intercooler.

Also need to start putting some cash aside for a BBK.

On a side note picked up my OSIR rear spolier from my local painter. Hunting down some 3M Automotive tape to get the thing on. Anyone have any good suggestions on where to buy some 3M Automotive tape?

Ask your local smash repairer - they may give you some for free. That is what Stephen of Jack Hillermans Artarmon did when I needed some.

[S&H]

Lol dean I'll be dissapointed with only 185 if it was.

Twin turbo Pirelli hmmm...... Let me change my sig!!!!

I've always wondered if it was possible to fit another turbo or supercharger onto our engines to get rid of the initial turbo lag.

[bwen]

I've always wondered if it was possible to fit another turbo or supercharger onto our engines to get rid of the initial turbo lag.

Not really much point from a small 2.0L 4 cylinder engine, you'll get more gains on changing your cam profile and having it a bit lumpier

[mshl1979]

Ask your local smash repairer - they may give you some for free. That is what Stephen of Jack Hillermans Artarmon did when I needed some.

Impatient Officeworks is just around the corner. Going to pop in at lunch to pick some up.

[mshl1979]

Just some photos of the bit's and peices that was added on to the car over the last couple of weeks.

Open Fog Grills
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4710451253_45d307fa84.jpg

Location of the DV on the Pirelli (OEM REV D)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1284/4711090960_6a83936e91.jpg

Carbonio Intake
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4710450551_b99f3cc402.jpg

OSIR Dead Pedal
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1296/4710450121_e341fc7c7a.jpg

OSIR Teslon Spolier - Awaiting for the Urethane to dry
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4711089864_2555e18eaa.jpg

[DeanCorp]

Wow! After seeing your car my car is sitting so low. Do you ever scrape?


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[mshl1979]

Every so often but rare.

I didn't want to go any lower.

[mshl1979]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4714215037_76fa8510a5.jpg

Masking tape removed of the OSIR spolier.

Got Dave to come and get a detail done today as well.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4714857726_35378193e5.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4714211887_350345435d.jpg

[Paolo]

looks so much meaner with the rear spoiler! getting this done fa shizzle. How much did it cost to colour code it to BMP? and those pics look like you have bixenons

[nath_mk6]

nice look there Michael, very nice

[Justin Fox]

Looking great!!! I think that OSIR spoiler works best on black cars.

[mshl1979]

looks so much meaner with the rear spoiler! getting this done fa shizzle. How much did it cost to colour code it to BMP? and those pics look like you have bixenons

It was $180. Too be honest I could have got it done cheaper else where, but the guys I took it too where local. I like the look too subtle but mean enough. There just OSRAM Nightbreaker bulbs mate love your xenons wish I had them on my old car.


nice look there Michael, very nice

Thanks Nathan, sorry too hear about your wheels mate.


Looking great!!! I think that OSIR spoiler works best on black cars.

Nearly went the carbon one like on Kevin's car but it would have looked kinda odd on my with the one peice of carbon fibre. Not functional though, I think the whole thing weight around a 1KG or so.

[Justin Fox]

Nice figures, but rigged dyno.

It just doesn't make sense to be pulling that much power with this mods. I'd say 170-175kw at best.

just realize that the figure it gave you is wrong or misleading. I may even say impossible.


Power was up on the JEM Mainline Dyno.
FYI 186.7KW ATW Pictures below.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1293/4702844196_8187e5a9e3_b.jpg

How did I miss all this?! At the dyno today Indy mentioned your car and your figure. DUDE! What a way to prove DeanCorp (and any other doubters out there) wrong!!!!!!! Well done on the figure and good on you for taking the time (and money) to get another run done and share it with us too.

[mshl1979]

Thanks Justin, appreciate it.

It was done for myself as I was curious as well.

How did today's dyno day go?

[Justin Fox]

Dyno day went well, pics are up!

[DeanCorp]

Yes, the dyno is impressive.

[chugga44]

did they give you a torque curve??

would really be interested to see just how much APR is pumping through the DSG.

[mshl1979]

No decided to look at that the fuel ratio.

The JEM dyno was stating 420NM Max torque but no curve.

[chugga44]

No decided to look at that the fuel ratio.

The JEM dyno was stating 420NM Max torque but no curve.

thanks buddy, explains why giac is so flat when APR is doing that in competition!

[mshl1979]

thanks buddy, explains why giac is so flat when APR is doing that in competition!

I was meaning to jump in Paolo's car as well to get a feel for his car. I should have taken him on a run in mine as well. Dyno's are just numbers would have been keen to find out how both tunes felt on the road. (He is running stage 2 though).

Are you on stage 1 Chugga? Maybe we can catch up for coffee and have a run in each others cars.

[chugga44]

I was meaning to jump in Paolo's car as well to get a feel for his car. I should have taken him on a run in mine as well. Dyno's are just numbers would have been keen to find out how both tunes felt on the road. (He is running stage 2 though).

Are you on stage 1 Chugga? Maybe we can catch up for coffee and run in each others cars.

yeah stage 1. starting to find that my main limit at the moment is some bald tyres though!!!

pm me.

[mshl1979]

Was good catching up today Chugga!!

Gave a chance for our butt dyno's to test the differences in tune.

[DeanCorp]

And what's the verdict?? Honesty guys ;)

[chugga44]

And what's the verdict?? Honesty guys ;)

was great to go for a bit of a lunch time blast!

Michaels car certainly has a far more linear power delivery. it just feels stronger...which is to be expected given that APR override the DSG torque limiter.

driving home, i was thinking that michaels car felt like it had more traction, probably due to the fact that the power was more linear and you had a better sense of where you are with the throttle....and that was with bald tyres on michaels.

if i had my time again, i would prefer the APR, but i am still happy with my GIAC. still very good bang for your buck.

[mshl1979]

Chugga's car's power felt like it didn't come on till 3500 RPM. While my car boost comes in quite strong at 2000RPM... because the power comes on a little earlier I don't get caught off boost (turbo lag) as much. But if your driving slowly and going a hill and slip to below 2200 RPM the difference is quite drastic.

Will be interesting to see a GIAC tune car with the DSG flash.

[mshl1979]

Just had a TAI done at European Autotech.

Definetly feel the NVH thorugh the cabin now. Espcially when idling. But I think it's a good compromise vs the amount of traction I know get. No more wheelspin off the line and no axle tramping.... won't help in the rain still but the difference in traction is night and day now.

I do notice the car instead of wheelspinning and axle tramping I now get a bit of torque steer....

[stephen8512]

nice one mikey!
which TAI did u go with? APR, BSH or Neuspeed?

I had the Neuspeed one and it was such a TIGHT fit....u can def feel the NVH but as u said its a good compromise...

[mshl1979]

The APR one Stephen.

I'm going to give it a week to see if I can put up with it. It's vibrating a fair bit when you move light trottle from idle. Drove it a fair bit today and it does get a little annoying but man does it stick....

[DeanCorp]

The APR one Stephen.

I'm going to give it a week to see if I can put up with it. It's vibrating a fair bit when you move light trottle from idle. Drove it a fair bit today and it does get a little annoying but man does it stick....

It will settle down. After 2,000km it will be much softer. I hated it when I first had mine installed.

[mshl1979]

It will settle down. After 2,000km it will be much softer. I hated it when I first had mine installed.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll stick with it a little longer than.

[mshl1979]

Ripped out the RNS-510 too add some more toys
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4917907901_e5a3263c47_d.jpg

Kufatec Video in Motion
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4917909793_a08e82014c_d.jpg

Kufatec Multimedia Adaptor to get video in (Got a Tv-Tuner that can play Div-X via a USB key that is integrated to in the RNS-510 touch screen works with it)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4917909159_3c3c1db2bc_d.jpg

Kufatec Fiscon Bluetooth Kit
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4917907117_8307e81dba_d.jpg

Cables going everywhere
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4917906499_f47c7d5663_d.jpg

Also went for a short drive with a few friends you guys would probaly recognize the R32

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4918505614_dc08f2fd10_z_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4917902235_e4e916497c_z_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4918493758_4dee680e51_z_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4917898065_4109c1c69b_z_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4917881623_744f87fae9_z_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/4918479146_fc6419749e_z_d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4917871925_87b1ca46b0_z_d.jpg

[DeanCorp]

Holy Shit dude NICE!!!

Does that allow you to play Digital TV through the RNS510?? If so how is the quality, is it fuzzy at all? Does it drop out or lose connection if you floor the car. It used to do that in my old car lol

Cheers,

EDIT: Just bought it, can't wait to install!

[mshl1979]

Holy Shit dude NICE!!!

Does that allow you to play Digital TV through the RNS510?? If so how is the quality, is it fuzzy at all? Does it drop out or lose connection if you floor the car. It used to do that in my old car lol

Cheers,

Works well Dean. I've got two antennas in the car. It's not fuzzy just drops out in some areas e.g. tall building blocking out the sky. I mainly bought for the ability to play DIV-X via a USB key. I'll get some photos or video of it while it's playing.

[stephen8512]

did u already have bluetooth when you bought the pirelli?

any wires needed for the fiscon to work? where is the mic?

[mshl1979]

did u already have bluetooth when you bought the pirelli?

any wires needed for the fiscon to work? where is the mic?

No bluetooth when I bought the car Stephen. Bluetooth plugs straight into the RNS-510 I then ran the Microphone up the A-pillar and too the overhead lights where the factory bluetooth MIC is supposed to be. The A pillar trim was and light console was relatively straightfoward. I did have to run the AV and splice into the fuse box for the 12V Bat and ACC for the TV-tuner though.

[mshl1979]

Small update:

- HPA DOG (TAI) Mount got installed - Replaced APR TAI - Less NVH now but still similar in peformance to the APR
- HPA DSG Flash done - Smoother shifts now and much better sport mode. Manual mode will now hold gears up to 95% wot
- Subframe bolts installed to fix poping noise

- Waiting on H&R RSB now....

[10d]

So how do you like the DSG upgrade overall?

[mshl1979]

Too be really honest if another GTI owner jumped in my car and drove it they probaly won't notice the difference. You need to look for the change in order to notice it, but the little differences in each gear change does make the car a more enjoyable and smoother. You are pretty much spending the $1200 to fix the little annoying things of the DSG gearbox.

IF nothing annoyed you with the gearbox to begin with then you probaly won't notice the changes. I did have annoyances with the gearbox to start with so for me it still was worthwhile.

I do think it's on the pricey side of things though. When you consider Front and Rear Sway bars OR HPFP OR Intercooler all of the above is around the $1200 price mark but all of those things probaly would have more of a noticeable change in the car.

Overall I'll give it a 7/10 losings points for value essentially.

What are your thoughts?

[DeanCorp]

So I take it the Stage 3 DSG Flash would be 0/10 because it is $2395 ;) haha

[mshl1979]

Just added Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit at least a 50% reduction in wheel spin and that is on tires without much thread left. Got addition for $250 bucks. Puts the power down much more nicely now.

Unibrace UB on it's way too had look at the stock braces and my rear is bent!! LOL.

[dev17a]

yeah, gotta replace those tyres soon Michael! they're almost like semi slick.

nice to meet you at Top One yesterday :)

[bwen]

Just added Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit at least a 50% reduction in wheel spin and that is on tires without much thread left. Got addition for $250 bucks. Puts the power down much more nicely now.


My car is stock and I have solid bushes on my car, the whiteline ALK was the first thing I bought as I was suffering from traction problems from a bog standard car.

[DeanCorp]

My car is stock and I have solid bushes on my car, the whiteline ALK was the first thing I bought as I was suffering from traction problems from a bog standard car.

My car is stock too but the Anti lift kit made a huge difference, that and the Torque arm insert and Sticky Tyres :D

[10d]

What's with the GIAC boys with K04 claiming their car to be stock?
>D

[DeanCorp]

What's with the GIAC boys with K04 claiming their car to be stock?
>D

Because GIAC isn't seen to be as cool as APR.

[bwen]

My car is stock too but the Anti lift kit made a huge difference, that and the Torque arm insert and Sticky Tyres :D

Man if your car is stock mine's probably NA then

[DeanCorp]

Man if your car is stock mine's probably NA then

Haha! In all seriousness Michael next mod Nitto NT05!!

[mshl1979]

yeah, gotta replace those tyres soon Michael! they're almost like semi slick.

nice to meet you at Top One yesterday :)

Yeah mate nice meeting you too. Those Coilovers would be nice addition can't wait to see your pics.

[mshl1979]

My car is stock too but the Anti lift kit made a huge difference, that and the Torque arm insert and Sticky Tyres :D

Yeah I didn't realise that it actually was that effective.

The TAI removes the axle tramp for me but still had wheel spin now the WALK has removed the wheel spin as well. Can't wait until the brace gets here.

[mshl1979]

Haha! In all seriousness Michael next mod Nitto NT05!!

Who would stock the tyres in Sydney? and how much for 225/235 R18?

[DeanCorp]

Who would stock the tyres in Sydney? and how much for 225/235 R18?

I can talk to Micky @ Tyrepower in Hawthorn and see what it will cost sent to Sydney, I'm pretty sure he had them in stock as I was there on Monday getting my weights on the wheels changed over to black ones ;)

[DeanCorp]

Yeah I didn't realise that it actually was that effective.

The TAI removes the axle tramp for me but still had wheel spin now the WALK has removed the wheel spin as well. Can't wait until the brace gets here.

From what I read the brace won't do much, i'm pretty sure ALK and TAI was it (oh and LSD)

[dev17a]

Who would stock the tyres in Sydney? and how much for 225/235 R18?

St George Tyres has Nitto NT05 in eBay, but only for 2, ebay auction price $499 for 2:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-X-New-225-40-18-NITTO-NT05-SEMI-SLICK-RACE-TYRES-/290557862685?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a699231d

best to call them up and find out if they have 4.

[10d]

Who would stock the tyres in Sydney? and how much for 225/235 R18?

Taleb Tyres. Talk to Cuz

[DeanCorp]

y r ya spkin lyke dat?

[10d]

y r ya spkin lyke dat?

That's because that is his name. He told me the other day that they have NT05

[mshl1979]

Tread rating of 200. The P-Zeros was 220.

How long are the tyres lasting you Dean?

[DeanCorp]

Tread rating of 200. The P-Zeros was 220.

How long are the tyres lasting you Dean?

Still got at least another 8 months left according to the tyre shop. So much better than P-Zero's not even funny :D

[mshl1979]

So been life than the Pirelli's? Awesome

[DeanCorp]

So been life than the Pirelli's? Awesome

Yep definitely, I only got about 15,000km on those ones and the grip sucked even when I first got them! Personally, I don't know how you have gone this long with them!

[mshl1979]

Thats because I've got 32,000KM and I'm due to replace my 2nd set now. So around 16000KM for me.

Works out about right.

Seems like the Nittos are the way to go, better life and better performance.

How's the noise like and are the more uncomforatble than the P-Zeros?

[blaze182]

I have to jump in, as you know dean I'm using the new tread P-Zero's and they're actually a lot better for grip than standard.. But they still leave some to be desired.. which is why I'm upgrading to your tyre dean =P

[DeanCorp]

Thats because I've got 32,000KM and I'm due to replace my 2nd set now. So around 16000KM for me.

Works out about right.

Seems like the Nittos are the way to go, better life and better performance.

How's the noise like and are the more uncomforatble than the P-Zeros?

A little bit noiser but man the grip!! They also look aggressive!! I would take them any day!


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[mshl1979]

So was at the tyre shop today.....

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5107/5669276842_c41b3c1890_z.jpg

And....

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/5668706061_0d099b7f60_z.jpg

Nitto NT-05 225 40 R18

$220 Fitted and balance per corner from Taleb Tyres in Arncliffe...

Impressions are posted on Deancorps review thread.

[mshl1979]

Picture of WALK installed.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5066/5668706411_9948075519_z.jpg

As mentioned above definitive improvement with regards to wheel spin... (around 40% reduction)

And got the Underbody UNI-Brace installed today at Top One as well

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5264/5668706759_4ce327e62e_z.jpg

Had the WALK and Brace a week apart so I can feel if there is any difference.

Initial report is the Brace has made the car feel more rigid and weighted. The car just feels slightly more solid now. My car used creak when i'm going down the 180 degree ramp at my car park. Doesn't creak any more.

[onpole01]

How are the nittos going man? Pretty awesome I'm sure.

[MasterKevin]

omg was that $220 fitted?

If so i think im going to be sold on these :P

[mshl1979]

yeah it was $220 fitted. Taleb still have in 4 stock apparently.

Still going strong even in the rain. Awesome tyres, I am concerned about the wear though, I come home from work and you can smell the rubber, touch the trye and you can feel it being quite soft and tacky all good signs from a grip perspective but unsure regarding wear.

Tread depth isn't that deep either, but will see in the future how long these would last if they last as long as the Pirellis (16,000KM) then I'll be happy as they are half the price.

[mshl1979]

@ Top One

http://tapatalk.com/mu/ca7c496b-b43b-25c4.jpg

Too install these little goodies...

http://tapatalk.com/mu/ca7c496b-b483-60a1.jpg

Whiteline RSB, Adams slotted rotors and HPS pads.

[bwen]

Can you let me know how the pads and rotors hold up? I'm thinking of getting the same combo for my Pirelli soon

[stephen8512]

i thought u had H&R sways?

[mshl1979]

Can you let me know how the pads and rotors hold up? I'm thinking of getting the same combo for my Pirelli soon

Will do Brendan. Got to find a nice straight road to bed them in properly first.


i thought u had H&R sways?

That was the intention Stephen never got around too it. So ended just getting Whiteline.

[stephen8512]

Oh okay. HMm for some reason I always thought u already had these on the 'relli...

[DeanCorp]

Do you happen to know what your LC point is now that you have Stg 2 HPA DSG?

[mshl1979]

4000 something... too aggressive if you ask me... nothing but wheelspin even with the WALK and Nittos.

[DeanCorp]

4000 something... too aggressive if you ask me... nothing but wheelspin even with the WALK and Nittos.

Exactly why I asked, I'm getting mine adjusted.

[mshl1979]

Exactly why I asked, I'm getting mine adjusted.

Yeah and you have a lot more power than me.