DIY Rear Wiper Delete MKV Golf

[Justin Fox]

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Rear wiper delete.

Today I did a rear wiper delete on the GTI so I thought I'd document it and make a DIY in-case anyone else wanted to do it.

I've done this on a few cars in the past (my R32 GT-R, DC2R Integra, EG Civic, ED Civic), not so much for weight saving, but more for a clean look.

Once the motor is disconnected the rear wiper is automatically disabled and fluid will not come out of the hose if switch is accidentally triggered.

I'll visit JDMyard later today to pick up a wiper delete plug (it's an OEM Honda part) and finish this DIY off but here it is for now:

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Pull the finishing cap off from the base/bottom. It'll come off easily with your hands.

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Remove the 13mm bolt.

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Getting the rear wiper off is the hardest part of the job as it's wedged in there. Spray a lot of WD40 on it and either wait or continue with the following steps and come back to it later. You will need to pry it off carefully. I ended up using a fat spanner covered in a T-Shirt (to prevent damage), wedged underneath it and I pried it slowly left side, then right and vice versa until it came off. I was patient enough and it took me about 5 minutes before it finally popped off.

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On the inside remove the 2 plastic screws from inside the boot handles.

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Pulling it off requires some force but trying to evenly apply that force is the hard part. The whole pice is just clipped in but getting a good handle to get the un-clipping going is the hard part. I started with the top left corner by pulling hard on that handle, it finally came off (makes a very loud noise when the clip does release) and from there un-clipped it towards the right, got the right corner off then the rest came off easily.

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Location of all the clips.

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Close-up of a clip.

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The wiper motor: Remove the water hose + wiring harness (simply lift plastic tab and slide off for both). Remove the 3 10mm bolts holding down the motor and remove the motor completely.

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Motor removed.

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Zip tie the harness + hose together to prevent rattling.

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Wiper assembly removed. Total weight 1.02kg.

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Wiper delete plug from JDMyard.com

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It's threaded.

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I had to get into MacGuyver Mode. I scrounged around the man cave and found a few good bits: An allen key bolt, a red washer made of rubber, something you would find in the plumbing section at Bunnings. A carbon bicycle headset spacer and also a carbon fibre bicycle stem top cap.

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This is how it all came together in the end on the underside (note: I will be applying silicone all around this to prevent leaks).

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And how it looks on the outside.

[Frenchie]

Nice thread Justin - it all adds up :)

Are you thinking shaved look !? Looks sexy.

[rayray086]

Very informative! The plug for the delete will be the icing on the cake.

[Justin Fox]

PS: These guys make a plug kit:
http://www.shop.verdictmotorsports.com/product.sc?productId=144&categoryId=13

[AP]

Looks good Justin...

[Justin Fox]

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APR just made one for their MK6 race car.

[Garth]

I rekon the honda one looks HEAPS better than that apr..

[bwen]

Looks good! I always do this to the civics I own and was contemplating on doing this on mine!

ps. awesome photos by the way, what setup do you use for those marco shots?

[Justin Fox]

bwen it's just a Canon IXUS pocket camera :lol:

[10d]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4524548112_7ee98e5bab_b.jpg
APR just made one for their MK6 race car.

I want one of these! >D

Anyway, here's mine. Justin is kind enough to get me one of the plug!

Thanks Justin!

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[G-rig]

Nice DIY Justin, dont think i would do it but looks pretty clean. Would be harder to see out the back when it's raining but i kinda think you would be expecting that :).

[MasterKevin]

wow thats really cool.

I would do it. But i feel lik ei would rip my whole rear windshield of in the process cause im retartded :D lol lol


10d and justin install to the rescue :D ? haha

[Justin Fox]

I might give rainx a go :lol:

[AP]

What about single wiper conversion for the front Justin!!

[G-rig]

I might give rainx a go :lol:

Yeah that stuff works ok but would have to apply it fairly often doesn't seem to stay on that long. Or use a good window cleaner (i use invisable glass from waxit).

Now you just need a single wiper on the front as AP said, but you have to make it stop half way and drive around like that :D

[Pharkus]

I might give rainx a go :lol:

Just give SUGA a squidgee. Let us know how the rainX goes.

[Justin Fox]

What about single wiper conversion for the front Justin!!

Egging me on!

[saad]

Our 1992 E class merc has a single wiper. If you could find the motor ad aprts im sure you could use it. Call up some wreckers in the UK, or Japan, theyd have heaps.

[saad]

Also whats the part number for the plug? Might go down to the honda dealer and order it.

[Justin Fox]

Also whats the part number for the plug? Might go down to the honda dealer and order it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2286/4507221382_375fb46008_o.jpg.

[Justin Fox]

Changed my wiper plug to a generic rubber plug also made by Honda. I prefer this one, it's smaller and I like the way it looks:

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Excuse the dirt, looks like a have a few scratches on the glass too oops.

[10d]

Forgot to ask you, JF.

Did you get another plug for me?

[Justin Fox]

Yup! :)

[10d]

Yup! :)

Thanks. I'll get it next time. I think I can secure the hatch release now

[G-rig]

I liked the other Honda plug, was nice and flat/flush .. :)

[saad]

Did mine too, really like it.

I also waxed my rear window with some swissvax. And it rained all day and night the next day. The swissvax did its job, and i put some on the fron too - I hardly needed the wiper as the water would just stream off

[MasterKevin]

Hey Justin Was wondering where you got these 2 parts from?

Like what size or where can i get them etc. Been looking kinda lost :P

carbon bicycle headset spacer and also a carbon fibre bicycle stem top cap

Kevin :)

[Frenchie]

Have at look at the bag MK -

Part is from Honda and you even have part number displayed >D

Wiper delete plug from JDMyard.com

[MasterKevin]

Have at look at the bag MK -

Part is from Honda and you even have part number displayed >D

Wiper delete plug from JDMyard.com

yeh i asked about

carbon bicycle headset spacer and also a carbon fibre bicycle stem top cap

:P

[Frenchie]

haha in that case we'll just have to wait till the Fox gets back MK and send him a PM

Did you check the bicycle thread ?

[AP]

I think I might do this aswell, it gives it the very clean look!!

[MasterKevin]

I think I might do this aswell, it gives it the very clean look!!

yeh i finally got convinced last night when i relooked at this thread and was staring at the plug for like 2 minutes and was like yeh im gonna do it haha

[saad]

any bike shop mate

I didnt even need a spacer. I just used a headset cap with a short bolt, a rubber washer from the plumbing tool box, and I used the original rubber plug that was in the window instead of a spacer.

Most bike shops would give you a top cap and bolt for free too

[AP]

any bike shop mate

I didnt even need a spacer. I just used a headset cap with a short bolt, a rubber washer from the plumbing tool box, and I used the original rubber plug that was in the window instead of a spacer.

Most bike shops would give you a top cap and bolt for free too

Post a few photos Saad!!!

[Clifton]

yeh i asked about

carbon bicycle headset spacer and also a carbon fibre bicycle stem top cap

:P

Spacers
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-8-Carbon-Headset-Spacer-Set-5-10-15mm-No-Logo-/370369529240?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563bbe8598
http://cgi.ebay.com/OMNI-Racer-Carbon-Headset-Spacers-1-1-8-5-10-15-20mm-/220570904537?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item335b0ce7d9
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-8-Carbon-Headset-Spacer-Set-2-x-20mm-No-Logo-/370368973895?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563bb60c47

Topcaps
http://cgi.ebay.com/OMNI-Racer-Headset-Stem-Top-Cap-WORLDS-LIGHTEST-CARBON-/220589300986?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item335c259cfa
http://cgi.ebay.com/CARBON-STEM-CAP-8-7g-Road-Mountain-Bike-Bicycle-Headset-/390149835471?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ad6be0acf
http://cgi.ebay.com/Forza-Carbon-fiber-Headset-Cap-and-Bolt-1-1-8-35403-/380224047462?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58871e8966

Same things as Justin used, I dont know how big his spacer is (looks like 10mm) but if you get the ones that come with 3 different sizes you cant go wrong.

Edit: the bolt size should be M6

[MasterKevin]

Man i went to honda to just try to get one of those wiper delete plugs direct and they have none in stock damn honda lol.

Justinnnnnnnnnn can you get me one of those plugssss, the Flat plastic one :D

Yeh justin is it a 10 mm spacer also?

Honda dealershiped wanted to charge me like $26 to get one from melbourne and i can't find one on the JDMyard site as there is no search function and the OEM honda prts ar eonly for interior :P

haha

<3

Ps: thanks Clifton for the info :)

[Clifton]

I find it takes a while for JDMyard to reply if you email the one given on the website. If you havnt done already try emailing yonas@jdmyard.com.

[MasterKevin]

I find it takes a while for JDMyard to reply if you email the one given on the website. If you havnt done already try emailing yonas@jdmyard.com.

thanks i emailed him :D

[saad]

I ordered mine from honda dealer, took 2 days.

anthony, as far as photos, the car has been put back together again but ill try explain.

insert the plug from the outside.

On the inside, use a rubber washerand place behind the plug, on the inside of the glass. On top of this, use the rubber grommet, which you took out of the hole, which acts as the original water proof seal. Place the grommet on top of the washer, then through this, insert you headset cap with bolt. As you tighten the bolt, the rubber grommet will compress. You may need to hold the delete plug from the outside to stop it from spinning when tightening, but it doesn't need to be TOO tight. I tested this by directed a stream of water straight to it, and got no leaks.

[MasterKevin]

I ordered mine from honda dealer, took 2 days.

anthony, as far as photos, the car has been put back together again but ill try explain.

insert the plug from the outside.

On the inside, use a rubber washerand place behind the plug, on the inside of the glass. On top of this, use the rubber grommet, which you took out of the hole, which acts as the original water proof seal. Place the grommet on top of the washer, then through this, insert you headset cap with bolt. As you tighten the bolt, the rubber grommet will compress. You may need to hold the delete plug from the outside to stop it from spinning when tightening, but it doesn't need to be TOO tight. I tested this by directed a stream of water straight to it, and got no leaks.

yeh i just ordered mine should be here tomorrow.

Is the bicycle stem top cap 1-1/8" or 1"?

and is the bicycle headset spacer 10mm or 15mm?

[saad]

I didnt use a spacer, but a 10mm should be OK.

1 1/8" top cap

[MasterKevin]

Thank you kind sir :)

and what size bolt as well :D haha

[saad]

not sure, but ask for standard headset bolt, thats the size! Or just go into bunnings and find the right size.

[Justin Fox]

LOL guys I just checked this all out, maybe I should design up a kit for this, will look into it in future.

Tendy has done the same modification. Same Honda plug (the solid metal one not the rubber one). I'm not sure about what bolt he used though, best to ask him. Here's a pic I took of his car last week:

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[AP]

LOL guys I just checked this all out, maybe I should design up a kit for this, will look into it in future.

Tendy has done the same modification. Same Honda plug (the solid metal one not the rubber one). I'm not sure about what bolt he used though, best to ask him. Here's a pic I took of his car last week:

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Yeah i like this one!! Will talk to Tendy next week...

[silverbullet]

can't believe you boyz castrated your GTI's

[Paolo]

issit easy to put back the wiper?

[silverbullet]

paolo, once the schlong is off its off ahahha

[Justin Fox]

Yes it's plug and play but getting the big rear plastic trim panel off is a pain, it's also a pain to get it back on. You have to be patient with it otherwise you could damage some of the clips. When putting it back on make 100% sure the little metal clips all line up otherwise you will end up bending a few of them.

[MasterKevin]

Just put mine on today :D

Was a little different to the DIY as my water thing was located somewhere else. But the rest basically the same.

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[stephen8512]

nice MK! is that the instructions printout u have in your hand? >D

[MasterKevin]

say whaaa? i did print out the instructions though :P lol

donot' think you can see it in the picture though O_o

[Frenchie]

haha Stephen is like a spy - eyes everywhere !!

Looks like you did a good job MK

[stephen8512]

say whaaa? i did print out the instructions though :P lol

donot' think you can see it in the picture though O_o

Hahah yeah u had a pic (which you took off now i think?) which you took a photo of the wiper delete and in the reflection i could see you holding a bunch of papers in your hand along with your camera



haha Stephen is like a spy - eyes everywhere !!

Better believe it frenchman!!!! >D

[MasterKevin]

Hahah yeah u had a pic (which you took off now i think?) which you took a photo of the wiper delete and in the reflection i could see you holding a bunch of papers in your hand along with your camera



yeh you must of saw em on my build thread :P

[scotty1991]

Much cleaner, i like it

[10d]

Nice plug, John!

[Justin Fox]

That's a great find J.

PS: Duct tape rocks out!

[bwen]

I was trying to make the hatch a touch lighter which originally led me looking into this. My hatch pop isn't always doing it's job due to the heavier RVC and deadening.

I wasn't a fan of the above solutions/kits, and found a better looking one here:

http://www.gecleant.de/

It's the cleanest and most OEM looking. It'll reflect in the same way the window does too. The UK boys use them quite a bit.

Till it arrives, I'm rocking duct tape.

Bump to an old thread, have you installed this plug? I'm looking at removing my wiper this week and was wondering if I should opt out for a normal black one or wait for something as nice as this.

[Justin Fox]

Tendy has it installed it looks awesome! I've got one too but have yet to put it on.

[bwen]

Tendy has it installed it looks awesome! I've got one too but have yet to put it on.

I'm ordering mine now, did you buy the additional glue and cleaner that goes with it? or just the plug?

[Justin Fox]

Yes I got the lot.

[stephen8512]

I sent them an email asking them if they can make a rubber grommet with the mk6 R logo. No response yet. I will be getting the glass plug and the shocker grommet. Glass one will look cleaner though.

[G-rig]

Tendy has it installed it looks awesome! I've got one too but have yet to put it on.

Looks cool when it isn't raining :).

This is a rice mod, like it or not. I personally can't see much out the back once it's been raining or from road dust etc.

[funny]

Sacriledge!
Honda parts on a VW!!
[shakes head]

[grins as he will actually have rear view after a few crap rainy days unlike the delete boyz (with or without the RainX)]

Well done guys. I wouldn't be game to do this, plus i like looking out the rear more than you guys i guess.

[Craig]

Dammit Justin, you didnt say the generic rubber one wasn't threaded!!! Hahaha, did you just silicone it in..?

[CSR]

I'm confused by the comments made about not being able to see out the back...
I can't see out the back when it rains even with the rear wiper. It just makes a mess of things and gives that yucky dirty outline in parts it doesn't wipe.

I will definately be doing this mod in the near future, and will be getting one of these with a special logo I have in mind :D :
http://www.gecleant.de/shop/Grommets/Design/individual/prod_16.html

[bwen]

If you keep your car relatively clean even if it rains it shouldn't affect your vision too much if any at all. I've had no problems, I've never used my rear windscreen wiper since the day I got my car and mainly removed it for aesthetics (also easier to wash your car)

[MarcsGTI]

I can't beleive I didnt stumble across this earlier nor did I think of it...
As soon as I get home from work today... DELETE!

[CSR]

If you keep your car relatively clean even if it rains it shouldn't affect your vision too much if any at all. I've had no problems, I've never used my rear windscreen wiper since the day I got my car and mainly removed it for aesthetics (also easier to wash your car)

Agreed.

Anyone want to do a group buy of those glass grommets from Germany? :D

[CSR]

Just wondering because I didn't see any mention of it here, that hose would still work even though the motor is out now...right? So if you were to accidently push forward your stalk..Would you spray water all over your boot?

[MarcsGTI]

Hey CSR, To answer your question - No. I tested it before I cable tied it back up etc.

P.S - How about this FAIL from myself.
NOTE TO SELF - Do not attempt DIY's when you are in a rush - It could turn out bad - And cost you alot of money ;(
Yes feel free to laugh...

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9192/photojon.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/photojon.jpg/)

[Jacquesvdub]

Holy mother of shattered glass! Were you in such a rush that you decided to just rip it out?

[Mr_Bob]

:( ouch!

[MarcsGTI]

Holy mother of shattered glass! Were you in such a rush that you decided to just rip it out?

LOL No, I was trying to pry the wiper blade etc with a screw driver, I had it wrapped in a clotch etc but then I just started gettin frustrated... Put too much force... Broke the glass.

Its being replaced today - But the pocket is feeling it.

I spose all you can do is laugh ?

[CSR]

Aw man now that seems like something I would totally do...Now i'm scared to do it myself hahaha..........

Sorry man but that is funny anyway :D How much did it set you back if I can ask?

[Justin Fox]

Daym!!!!!!!

[MarcsGTI]

Well O'Brien glass wanted to charge me $792.
I am having it done by Campsie Glass Repair or whatever they're called. Great guy - Phoned yesterday, he said he would get back to me today. He called this morning and he is going to my house today to do it for $336. To have it re-tinted he is charging an extra $88.

All up this wiper delete cost me much more than expected :) I would still recommend it is a DIY - As once I actually calmed down after breaking my window I took some time and it came off fine...

[CSR]

That's better than I expected, but yes you're right was a very expensive mod for you :P.

I've bought the glass grommet and will be getting it laser engraved with the following image (my company logo). It's perfectly symmetrical too which is a plus..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Beretta-logo.png

[Pharkus]

That's better than I expected, but yes you're right was a very expensive mod for you :P.

I've bought the glass grommet and will be getting it laser engraved with the following image (my company logo). It's perfectly symmetrical too which is a plus..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Beretta-logo.png

You work for Beretta?

Personally it looks great, but I would not do it as I would miss the rear wiper coming on when putting the car in reverse and it senses rain =)

[bwen]

Hey CSR, To answer your question - No. I tested it before I cable tied it back up etc.

P.S - How about this FAIL from myself.
NOTE TO SELF - Do not attempt DIY's when you are in a rush - It could turn out bad - And cost you alot of money ;(
Yes feel free to laugh...
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9192/photojon.jpg

That's so unlucky, I hope this doesn't deter other people from doing it DIY. The bolt is done up pretty tight and getting off is a bitch, only advice I can give is be patient and persistant

[CSR]

You work for Beretta?

Personally it looks great, but I would not do it as I would miss the rear wiper coming on when putting the car in reverse and it senses rain =)

I never use the rear wiper so no loss to me..When it's in auto mode actually I find sometimes it just starts wiping for no reason and has that scratchy sound.

And yes I work at Beretta, family business in Australia :)

[10d]

And yes I work at Beretta, family business in Australia :)

:drool:

Hook up?? :)

[10d]

Ouch, that hurts.
Rubber mallet is your friend to loosen up that wiper arm.

[melbv]

Interesting :)


And yes I work at Beretta, family business in Australia :)

[MarcsGTI]

After having the window installed yesterday I installed the Wiper Delete plug with all the other bits that I bought from Bunnings and the local bicycle shop.
It was super simple!

All in all my review for this DIY would be - Give it a go - Its simple... Just be GENTLE!!! lol
I am still happy I made this modification - It just cost me a lil more than it should have.

[Jacquesvdub]

Where is the easiest place to get my hands on the plug? Bunnings?

[MarcsGTI]

I purchased mine from JDMYARD. - $35.00
I purchased the other 2 bits from a bike shop - The spacer and end cap. - $16.00
Rubber O'ring type things from Bunnings - $2.50

[bwen]

Guys for that price definitely check out the glass ones you can get. It cost me about $25 shipped to my door

http://www.gecleant.de/shop/Grommets/Glas/Glasstopfen-fA-r-Audi-VW-Seat-Skoda/prod_46.html
http://www.gecleant.de/shop/images/uploads/pics/werbung/glasstopfen_heckscheibe_wischerloch_theaser.jpg

[CSR]

Cost me $38 shipped to my door (but I got the cleaner / glue as well). Bastards charged me 19% tax which I don't understand, that should automatically be deducted given it is overseas..

[CSR]

I just did this wiper delete tonight and I have to say getting the back cover off with all those clips is the second most frustrating thing i've ever done in my life - the first was GETTING THE FUCKING THING BACK ON!!

I broke about 3 clips but luckily (for now) there doesn't seem to be any rattling..

[golferthirtytwo]

Cost me $38 shipped to my door (but I got the cleaner / glue as well). Bastards charged me 19% tax which I don't understand, that should automatically be deducted given it is overseas..

Hey Clemente,
Was the cleaner/glue worth it?
I know its only like 10bux or less difference but was just wondering what they were? :S

[CSR]

They are cleaner..and glue ;D

Nah mate nothing a regular super glue and glass cleaner won't do. The cleaner is to remove the streak on the glass from the original wiper rubber stopper thingy. Glue is to glue. Household items really!!

[golferthirtytwo]

Ohhh I see :)
Cheers for the info!
How long did the shipping take approx?
Hoping to get these before the parts installation day..

[CSR]

took me a good month..must've gotten lost in the post system.

[Darkneo]

Just received my glass plug w/ the cleaner and glue. I have a question on the install of it... Do we use the glue on the "lip" of the plug only? I was reading the install instructions on the site and it said something about reusing a rubber ring from the stock wiper? is that true? thanks

[CSR]

Erm...Nope I didn't use any rubber ring from stock wiper >.> . I put the glue on the lip yes and then you push it in from the inside. No idea where a rubber ring would go!

[fir-26t]

Hey fellas, since many have done a rear wiper DELETE, can someone kindly donate/sell a rear wiper blade thingy that clips on the arm. Not the whole unit.

Some crack head decided to steal mine of the car. Idiots!!

Joey