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TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:11 AM

Hello guys

My name is Stefan, i'm from Bucharest, Romania. This is my Golf story.

Bought it October 2010. It was love at first sight.

After 800km it received Revo Stage 1: 320hp & 420Nm.
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Here is with winter wheels on:
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After another 300km, Milltek TBE non-resonated arrived along with THS intercooler, APF HPFP, RS4 return valve. Remained on Stage 1. I managed to get the Milltek exhaust from the very first lot they made available to public :D
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A full interior upholstery followed: Black Mercedes Nappa leather with Black Alcantara with Blue stitching.
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After 1 month decided that it's time for Stage 2+, and installed ITG Maxogen Intake:
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TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:12 AM

PART II:
LC with Stage 2+
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Also felt the need for better braking, and went with AP Racing Competition package: 362x34 rotors
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These nice brakes would look ulgy behind OEM wheels, so a set of BBS RS-GT 19x8.5J ET46 with Goodyear F1 Assym got on the car
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After 2 months, i felt the need for more power, and went to Revo Romania HQ and with the guys there i made a shopping list:
- BSH Work of Art turbo kit with Precision Turbo 5830 (new version of BSH kit)
- Tial External WG
- Audi RS4 injectors
- HEP Stage 2 Intake Manifold
- AEM WMI
- e-Boost 2
- Ferrea +1mm valvetrain
- JE pistons & IE rods
- BSH Throttle Pipe
- BSH PCV Fix
- Revo Stage 4
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TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:13 AM

PART III:
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Also intalled Kerscher 25mm wider front fenders
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Also changed the brakes with something more docile: Audi RS4 8pot

TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:15 AM

Haldex Controller Gen 4 is here
Maniacs DSG extensions are here
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In first phase the car made at a moderate boost and stock engine, 460HP at 6500rpm (stock DSG flash)
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Also ordered a set of Recaro CS's with airbag and heating. Should arrive in 1-2 weeks
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Since the car looked like an SUV, i decided to lower it and ordered a Bilstein PSS10 coilover kit.
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3 months ago the engine re-build (internals, valves) began:
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The gearbox was sent at HGP Turbo Germany for upgrade, after failing with SSP 600HP Clutch Pack. I have the same clutches now that HGP uses on their R36 bi-turbo 680HP. Also DSG ECU has been modified for:
-8000rpm rev limit
-5000rpm LC
-shifting time improved
-torque limits removed
-fully manual mode

TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:16 AM

Oh, and forgot to mention.
For track days i have a set of Toyo R888's 245/40/R18, and will be getting some TD ProRace 1.3 black with 18x8.5 with ET35 on the front to clear the brakes, and ET45 on the rear.

Now i have a Porsche 996TT front brakes, but it's possible to upgrade them.

TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:17 AM

OEM black headlights are here (sorry for crappy pics, will post better ones when i get the car):

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TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:18 AM

RECARO's are here after i've placed the order at Recaro 2 months ago !!! :D The quality of upholstery is not so good, but i don't mind, i will change it anyway :D

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TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:21 AM

In present the DSG is on the car, running in period now. First 100km were made today following HGP's instructions. Until now the DSG is working good, there is no slip at all, is very smooth. This weekend i hope that another 4-500km will be made, and raise the boost a little bit.

This is a very very short summary of the car. 100% i forgot to mention some details, but i can't remember now. If you have question i will be more than happy to answer.

Glad to meet you guys.

PS: some pictures made today

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dsiew

14-10-2011, 07:29 AM

Wow! Talk about no messing around! What a beast! Good luck with the future mods, we'd love to see some 1/4 mile slips, dynosheets and a full mod list. I'm sure there are other things people would love to see but thus far, welcome to the forum!

TEFF

14-10-2011, 07:54 AM

Thank you dsiew. Next week the car will be ready. I've also got 57L of race fuel VP120 (120 octane). Now the Stage 2 Intake Manifold is used like OEM one. After winter i will use all it's features: 4 additional fuel injectors, 4 additional WM injectors. I will also get an additional ECU only for the injectors, another fuel pump for them, and many more. But everything at it's time :D :D

Mod list: (what i remember now). After it will be ready i will make videos, record accelerations with Racelogic, pictures :D

PERFORMANCE:
- BSH Work of Art Turbo Kit (Precision Turbo 5830)
- Audi RS4 injectors
- Audi RS4 return valve
- 3" TBE (straight pipe :D)
- HEP Stage 2 Intake Manifold
- AEM WMI
- ITG Maxogen Intake
- APR HPFP
- USP Motorsport intank inline fuel pump
- THS Intercooler
- BSH PCV Fix
- BSH Throttle Pipe
- Revo Technik Stage 4
- e-Boost 2 Boost Controller
- HGP Turbo race clutch 8 pack
- HGP Turbo custom DSG remap

HANDLING/BRAKING:
- Bilstein B16 PSS10 Coilovers
- KW DCC Delete Kit
- Audi TT lower arms + lower bushings
- Porsche 996 Turbo BBK (4pot, 350x32 rotors)
- H&R 15mm spacers (front)
- Gen4 Haldex Controller + switch

APPEARANCE:
- Kerscher wider fenders (+25mm)
- BBS RS-GT 19x8.5J ET46 wheels (street)/ Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.3 18x8.5J ET35 (front) + ET45 (rear) (track)
- Goodyear Eagle F1 Assym 235/35/R19 tyres (street)/ Toyo R888 245/40/R18 (track)
- RevoZport front splitter (waiting to arrive)
- Tinted Windows
- OEM black headlights
- Recaro Sportster CS (not installed yet)

:D This is all i remember

dyljoy

14-10-2011, 08:38 AM

Man, great work and nice mod~I hope can see the result it can achieve from the track.

MasterKevin

14-10-2011, 08:44 AM

Teff my man :p welcome to this forum!

sub11z

14-10-2011, 09:00 AM

Awesome!

The Precision Turbo Kit is truly a work of Art.

spooner18

14-10-2011, 09:02 AM

what sort of fertilizer do you use on your money tree? i can't seem to grow any money on mine....

ravun

14-10-2011, 09:39 AM

I have been following the build thread on the golfmk6 forums.

A truly awesome car.

TEFF

14-10-2011, 11:04 AM

Man, great work and nice mod~I hope can see the result it can achieve from the track.
Thank you dyljoy. I can't wait to drive the car. One more week and it will be ready

Teff my man :p welcome to this forum!
Hey Kevin. Nice to see you too here. I've seen this forum on Fab_R's signature on other forum, and decided to take a look. Very very very beautiful cars in here. I'm honoured to be a user

Awesome!

The Precision Turbo Kit is truly a work of Art.

Indeed. It's the 2nd kit in the world that uses the Precision Turbo. The 1st is on their car :D. I prefered this over their "old" kit with GT-X30r turbo

what sort of fertilizer do you use on your money tree? i can't seem to grow any money on mine....
Hehe, i was lucky to get a good tree breed :D. They grown without any fertilizer :P

I have been following the build thread on the golfmk6 forums.

A truly awesome car.

Thank you very much ravun

Jig

14-10-2011, 11:51 AM

Such an awesome build. YOur welcome here anytime. Let us know the sprint to 100kms and 1/4 mile figures.

Tarmac

14-10-2011, 12:50 PM

Stefan that is 1 awesome Golf R. You have really gone all out. Its good to see someone turning 1 of these things into a real weapon. Congrats on a great build.

Motor32race

14-10-2011, 03:17 PM

Stefan,
Love your work and dedication to detail. Always like to see people who enjoy their toys. Were the flared front guides an easy fit and what wascthe quality of the metal pressing like. They look awesome and would probably allow you to run a 235 width tire set.
Well done.
PS. How cold will your winter get ? In Australia we're heading for summer and in Sydney lastcsummer we had 42.5C at our house.

zz2

14-10-2011, 03:35 PM

Dammm Stefan! What a nutso build.

Btw, Romanian women are some of the hottest in Europe... I would know hahaha

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

TEFF

14-10-2011, 03:43 PM

Such an awesome build. YOur welcome here anytime. Let us know the sprint to 100kms and 1/4 mile figures.
Thank you Jig. As soon as the car is ready, i will start enjoying it :D and drive it like it's meant to be driven

Stefan that is 1 awesome Golf R. You have really gone all out. Its good to see someone turning 1 of these things into a real weapon. Congrats on a great build.
Thank you very much Tarmac

Stefan,
Love your work and dedication to detail. Always like to see people who enjoy their toys. Were the flared front guides an easy fit and what wascthe quality of the metal pressing like. They look awesome and would probably allow you to run a 235 width tire set.
Well done.
PS. How cold will your winter get ? In Australia we're heading for summer and in Sydney lastcsummer we had 42.5C at our house.
I've always liked to push the limits with cars, and try something new. For example, the BSH turbo kit is made for FWD cars only, and we have 4WD. So some custom pipes were made. :D Here Autumn began, temperatures now are maximum 20 degree C. In winter we even had -20 degree C, so it's pretty cold

Dammm Stefan! What a nutso build.

Btw, Romanian women are some of the hottest in Europe... I would know hahaha

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Indeed they are beautiful :D Have you visited Romania? or met a Romanian woman?

Cheers

*thad*

14-10-2011, 04:06 PM

*loud thud as bottom jaw hits desk*
Man that is insane, nice build.

zz2

14-10-2011, 08:37 PM

Indeed they are beautiful :D Have you visited Romania? or met a Romanian woman?

Cheers

am yet to go but my gf is half Romanian. hope to go soon on the way back to Croatia

14-10-2011, 09:45 PM

Awesome build.. Keep up the good work..

sxcR32

14-10-2011, 10:07 PM

WOW!! Very nicely done

Quality mods there Stefan.

Congrats :) let us know how it goes when you get it back

chuppamello

14-10-2011, 10:24 PM

Very nice

eurotrashed

14-10-2011, 11:11 PM

Hands down the best build thread I have seen. e superba masina ;)

TEFF

17-10-2011, 04:04 AM

*loud thud as bottom jaw hits desk*
Man that is insane, nice build.
Thank you very much :D

am yet to go but my gf is half Romanian. hope to go soon on the way back to Croatia
If you every decide to come here, let me know ;) Cheers

Awesome build.. Keep up the good work..
Thank you AP. Do you have a build thread of your car. I've seen some pics with it, but i would like to read it's history :D Nice ride

WOW!! Very nicely done

Quality mods there Stefan.

Congrats :) let us know how it goes when you get it back
Thanks. This week it will be finished, also dyno'd :D

Very nice

Hands down the best build thread I have seen. e superba masina ;)

Thank you guys. Multumesc frumos :D

i-vtec

17-10-2011, 09:46 AM

Images don't work.
any chance of fixing it up ?

TEFF

17-10-2011, 10:01 AM

I know, my Pro Account on Photobucket expired. Tomorrow morning i will activate it again. Sorry :D

TEFF

17-10-2011, 10:02 PM

Little update:

Now 900km of running in. The boost was raised at 1.6bar, the DSG is rock solid. No slip at all !!

zz2

18-10-2011, 12:20 AM

1.6 bar (23.2 psi) is a pretty serious amount of boost when running a turbo capable of that much volume.

TEFF

18-10-2011, 12:49 AM

This is just the moderate boost, we will pass 2 bars after it will be finished :D

CSR

18-10-2011, 01:27 AM

I love that!! Running in at 23 PSI!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahaha. Beautiful list, my mouth was open the whole time reading it. I had heard there was a crazy guy in Romania who wasn't happy with the stock R but didn't know the limits...

Fab you reading this? Get cracking if you're going to catch up.. ;)

TEFF

18-10-2011, 02:30 AM

Thanks CSR :D This car was built with reliability as dominant word. Also hope to achieve some nice numbers on the rollers :D

TEFF

18-10-2011, 04:00 AM

CSR: a little update, now we've raised the boost at 26.1PSI, the DSG is rock solid. 3 LC's from 5000rpm and it's tearing up the ground :D

Brick

18-10-2011, 04:09 AM

Teff,

Have you been able to record a 0-100kph time with the increased boost yet? Loving your mods.

TEFF

18-10-2011, 04:17 AM

Not yet, videos will be made after the car will be ready. I will have 3 versions for ECU

1. only for pump fuel
2. pump fuel + WMI
3. race fuel + WMI

All selected from Revo SPS

Thank you Brick

sxcR32

18-10-2011, 07:46 AM

Wow I can't wait to see the figures!

Great work mate. Keep it up

TEFF

18-10-2011, 08:22 AM

Thank you very much sxcR32

10d

18-10-2011, 08:25 AM

Awesome work! Really looking forward to those pics working again

cookie28

18-10-2011, 08:27 AM

^ x2 keen for the pics of this

TEFF

18-10-2011, 09:56 AM

Thank you guys. Finally managed to get the photos fixed. Cheers :D

Prodigy

18-10-2011, 02:08 PM

Awesome build Stef, can't wait to see some video footage of this beast in action. :cool:

cookie28

18-10-2011, 11:52 PM

This is absolutely amazing man!! I'm keen for times!!!

tippah

19-10-2011, 01:03 AM

REVO FTW.......Nice car mate been following you on golf mk6 for a long time..... Welcome.

just_quietly

19-10-2011, 01:19 AM

Fantastic read Stefan.
What an awesome car you have.
Thats some serious power....
Well done to our Romanian friend.

CSR

19-10-2011, 02:22 AM

After looking at all the pics, I'm even more amazed. Love the smiley faced pistons.

Are you running a staggered wheel set-up or did you roll your rear fenders too?

The only negative I can comment on are those maniacs stick on paddles...See what you think about this company:
http://www.s2tpp.com/VW-Paddle-Details.html

TEFF

19-10-2011, 03:44 AM

Awesome build Stef, can't wait to see some video footage of this beast in action. :cool:
Thank you Prodigy. Videos will follow :D

This is absolutely amazing man!! I'm keen for times!!!
Thanks :D

REVO FTW.......Nice car mate been following you on golf mk6 for a long time..... Welcome.
Thank you tippah

Fantastic read Stefan.
What an awesome car you have.
Thats some serious power....
Well done to our Romanian friend.
Thank you very much. Can't wait to get the car running at high potential

After looking at all the pics, I'm even more amazed. Love the smiley faced pistons.

Are you running a staggered wheel set-up or did you roll your rear fenders too?

The only negative I can comment on are those maniacs stick on paddles...See what you think about this company:
http://www.s2tpp.com/VW-Paddle-Details.html
Hello CSR
I haven't done anything to my rear fenders. Also staggered wheels on haldex it's not that good, because it will cause problem. Always have same specifications on all 4 wheels
I've ordered the Maniacs paddles because i was bored in one night, and decided to order something for the car. They are not top quality. I've seen the S2TPP paddles but i'm not a fan. In the future i will get OSIR or TID Styling paddles :D Top quality imo

Little update:
Did some running today with VP120 race fuel (120 octane) + meth at 2bars, and my tuner said: "if yesterday at 1.8bars and pump fuel it was running like it was eating ground, now it makes the earth to spin faster" :D

MasterKevin

19-10-2011, 11:49 AM

Teff put those headlights on!!!

Tarmac

19-10-2011, 12:50 PM

Did some running today with VP120 race fuel (120 octane) + meth at 2bars, and my tuner said: "if yesterday at 1.8bars and pump fuel it was running like it was eating ground, now it makes the earth to spin faster" :D

haha the earth spins faster. I like this. I imagine it does. and 2 bars is ALOT of boost. You boost hog you :) cant wait to see Dyno results. Hurry up, you have fans waiting to see them. :)

Footguy

19-10-2011, 12:53 PM

Holy cow. Sweet...

I think the bench mark is 11.35 @119MPHset by the stage 4 APR Golf R in QLD.

Look forward to hearing how the Stge 4 Revo goes...

markwid

19-10-2011, 01:25 PM

Stirlo

19-10-2011, 10:21 PM

TEFF awesome car man, love it

chuppamello

19-10-2011, 10:35 PM

Removed by request

Stirlo

19-10-2011, 10:48 PM

Removed at request

TEFF

20-10-2011, 02:51 AM

Teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iO9A1D_niQ&feature=player_embedded

Later next week some BIG will be unveiled :D So keep an eye on this thread 'cause is going to be very interesting

DeanCorp

20-10-2011, 04:51 AM

Now this is a car!!

Awesome work Stefan!!! :D :D :D

TEFF

20-10-2011, 05:22 AM

Thank you very much DeanCorp :D

MasterKevin

20-10-2011, 08:42 AM

freaking insane this thing !

bluefrog

20-10-2011, 05:36 PM

time to change my pants

Teaser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iO9A1D_niQ

Later next week some BIG will be unveiled :D So keep an eye on this thread 'cause is going to be very interesting

CSR

20-10-2011, 07:36 PM

13-20 seconds I am shitting my pants just looking at that, let alone trying to sit in it when it's moving the earth...!!

golferthirtytwo

20-10-2011, 08:07 PM

This car is INSANE :eek::eek::eek:

DeanCorp

20-10-2011, 08:22 PM

When I die, I want to be re-incarnated into this car!

Tarmac

20-10-2011, 08:44 PM

When I die, I want to be re-incarnated into this car!

+1

TEFF

20-10-2011, 09:00 PM

Thank you very much guys. It means a lot to me. Thank you

TEFF

24-10-2011, 12:19 PM

Forgot to mention: 515fwhp. I'm not very good with whp knowledge, but i suppose the bigger the better :D

Jig

24-10-2011, 04:10 PM

Crazy car!

MasterKevin

24-10-2011, 04:22 PM

Forgot to mention: 515fwhp. I'm not very good with whp knowledge, but i suppose the bigger the better :D

ALmost 400 kw atw. so freaking insane!!!!!!!!

24-10-2011, 04:57 PM

This is a beast.. Look out Guy Harding..

Sammy

24-10-2011, 05:05 PM

Teff,

would you care to tell what compression ratio the engine was built with?

DeanCorp

24-10-2011, 05:06 PM

This is a beast.. Look out Guy Harding..

More like look out AP.

10d

24-10-2011, 06:36 PM

A real weapon here! Keep up the good work.

TEFF

24-10-2011, 09:37 PM

Crazy car!

ALmost 400 kw atw. so freaking insane!!!!!!!!

This is a beast.. Look out Guy Harding..

Thank you guys. I love GH's car, he did a wonderful job and he is constantly improving it. Great car

Teff,

would you care to tell what compression ratio the engine was built with?

Sammy, the engine has the same compression ratio as when it was stock. Revo Technik recommended like this

More like look out AP.
I don't dare to compare my car to AP's twin-turbo R36 :D

A real weapon here! Keep up the good work.

Thank you 10d. This power is just intermediate. I have't still used the extra 4 fuel injectors, extra 4 meth injectors. Also i have to get new fuel extra fuel pump for them, extra ECU for them. So there is still a lot of work to do. But this is enough for Phase 2 (as i like to call it) of the project. Because the rebuild lasted 3 months, and now i miss driving my car :D
In Spring Phase 3 will begin with lot of surprises

Cheers

24-10-2011, 10:13 PM

Good luck with it all stefan... This is going to be an epic car! enjoy...

CSR

24-10-2011, 10:15 PM

what more can you surprise us with!! Gorgeous man..

TEFF

24-10-2011, 10:44 PM

Thank you very much AP.

CSR, also this winter something truly unique will happen at the interior. And in Spring some power will happen :D

Rob32R

24-10-2011, 10:49 PM

This thread is getting serious. I love it, keep up the good work Stefan. 1 crazy Golf R :p.

MasterKevin

24-10-2011, 11:20 PM

THis thing is gonna be 500 + kw i reckon. You my friend are insane !

TEFF

24-10-2011, 11:59 PM

Thank you again guys

Kevin, KW at the crank right?

DeanCorp

25-10-2011, 12:01 AM

Thank you again guys

Kevin, KW at the crank right?

Considered moving to Australia :D

25-10-2011, 12:04 AM

Considered moving to Australia :D

Dean you should loose your Giac tune and Revo..

DeanCorp

25-10-2011, 12:08 AM

Dean you should loose your Giac tune and Revo..

If someone said your license will be re-instated tomorrow on the condition that you get an APR tune and APR badge and "LUVAPR" plates I seriously would!!

technopato

25-10-2011, 01:28 AM

If someone said your license will be re-instated tomorrow on the condition that you get an APR tune and APR badge and "LUVAPR" plates I seriously would!!

LMFAO!!!!

vanboy

25-10-2011, 01:48 AM

Only just came across this thread tonight.. awesome work Stefan! Putting the R in Romania.....

dave-r

25-10-2011, 04:23 PM

Teff the forum whore hehehe. No matter how many forums I find this build thread on, I still work my way through them and am amazed every time.

Looking forward to the results and videos!

Hey Teff, when you get bored, wack a set of turbos on the X5 ;)

MasterKevin

25-10-2011, 06:42 PM

If someone said your license will be re-instated tomorrow on the condition that you get an APR tune and APR badge and "LUVAPR" plates I seriously would!!

Dean you crack me up :P

just_quietly

25-10-2011, 07:50 PM

Dean you crack me up :P

More like his on crack MK :)

TEFF

25-10-2011, 08:34 PM

Thank you guys :D I really apreciate y our kind words

Teff the forum whore hehehe. No matter how many forums I find this build thread on, I still work my way through them and am amazed every time.

Looking forward to the results and videos!

Hey Teff, when you get bored, wack a set of turbos on the X5 ;)

Hey Dave.
I was thinking of selling the X5 in April 2012. I own it for 3 years now. Maybe an X5M, or an Audi S7 4.0TT (v8 viturbo). I also changed of putting turbos in my current X5, but my gearbox wouldn't help me i think :(

CSR

25-10-2011, 08:50 PM

X5M looks to be a nice car..I saw one the other day, sporty looking for a big ass fat 4WD...

TEFF

26-10-2011, 10:45 AM

POLL :D:

Do you think is worth of getting this rear CF difusser?

http://www.vary.co.jp/reife/golf6_r/7b.jpg

MasterKevin

26-10-2011, 11:10 AM

Hell yes!

Freaking hot!

degers

26-10-2011, 11:40 AM

Oh yes. That would make your weapon look even more deadly!!

just_quietly

26-10-2011, 11:44 AM

yes yes

Peanut Butter Wolf

26-10-2011, 11:56 AM

Stock golf = no
Your golf = hell yeah!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

CSR

26-10-2011, 12:20 PM

It's definately something different..

I know a few of the R boys here are keen on it too! Get a group buy happening :)

TEFF

26-10-2011, 12:48 PM

Thank you very much guys. Until now everybody said: YES :D I'm so happy. I'm still waiting for their price offer. Until then i'm open to suggestions regarding the diffuser.

PS: i think it will match pretty good with the front splitter from RevoZport that should arrive this week

a buddy's R:
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/IMG_0222.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/IMG_0223.jpg

TEFF

26-10-2011, 12:53 PM

It's definately something different..

I know a few of the R boys here are keen on it too! Get a group buy happening :)

I know, here on this forum i've seen it 3 hours ago :D It really looks special

sxcR32

26-10-2011, 04:09 PM

Its a definate YES from me!

Tarmac

26-10-2011, 05:17 PM

I love the front one. im keen for one of those. :)

Nabsta

26-10-2011, 09:22 PM

Stefan=Golf HeRo

TEFF

27-10-2011, 03:42 AM

Well ladies and gentlemen...time has come to present you the surprise i was speaking about a few days ago. It's a special car that belongs to a very good friend of mine :happyanim:

But remember this is just a teaser, i'll let the pictures talk: (this is just the beginning, big numbers will come)

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/VSG333frontviewatREVOHQ.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/VSG333REVOStage4.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/Herrodsdyno26Octobernograph.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/HerrodsDyno26October2011.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/291KWLAMBDAANDINLETAIRTEMP.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/291KWLAMBDAANDTIMING.jpg

10d

27-10-2011, 07:18 AM

Whoa! That's a big surprise...
And it's Victorian

TEFF

27-10-2011, 07:26 AM

Don't know what Victorian means :)

10d

27-10-2011, 07:34 AM

Don't know what Victorian means :)

It's a state in Australia. :)
Well done. Seems REVO is stepping up in the game.
Like the custom intake manifold

27-10-2011, 07:53 AM

Awesome result..
Don't understand the torque figure, My Lotus is a 2.2Litre 20V with GT 3071 and on low boost 20psi made 400hp at the wheels and 580nm and with 28psi made 500hp at the wheels and 620nm
Plus my old R32 turbo made 400hp in FWD mode and 1.2bar with 586nm.

What sort of boost are you running?

TEFF

27-10-2011, 08:23 AM

AP, were you reffering to my R torque? Or the torque of white R?

10d, he is from Melbourne. I guess Melboune is in Victorian state? The intake manifold is a HE Performane Stage 1 intake manifold

dsiew

27-10-2011, 09:05 AM

Teff, Melbourne is the capital city of the state of Victoria. According to this map (http://adbaptistchurch.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/regional_map-romania.gif), Victoria is like Maramures, Bucovina, Crisana, Transilvania, Moldova, Banat, Walachia & Dobrogea in Romania.

Both your R and this white R are beasts!

TEFF

27-10-2011, 09:35 AM

Thank you dsiew. That map represents how Romania was divided many hundred years ago, in regions. In popular term we still use those names, but official in papers they don't exist anymore. Now we have 41 county (don't know if the correct form for plural is "counties")

Some of you may know the owner of thr white beast. His name is Simon Gordon (or rudy-r it's his username on other forums)

dave-r

27-10-2011, 10:48 AM

APR looses another customer, how surprising....

Jig

27-10-2011, 10:54 AM

850+Nm of torque and 290KW+ of power at the wheels? Is that right? If it is, awesome build! Be nice to have rudy-r come join this forum and share his work.

MasterKevin

27-10-2011, 11:00 AM

850+Nm of torque and 290KW+ of power at the wheels? Is that right? If it is, awesome build! Be nice to have rudy-r come join this forum and share his work.

+1 i completely 110% agree with this :)

TEFF

27-10-2011, 11:11 AM

APR looses another customer, how surprising....
:)

850+Nm of torque and 290KW+ of power at the wheels? Is that right? If it is, awesome build! Be nice to have rudy-r come join this forum and share his work.
Yes. You are absolutely right. But this was just a "raw" setup. He ,together with Revo Australia, will tweak this car and some hardware parts will follow on the car, so he will pass 320awkw. I will ask him if he wants to join the forum

+1 i completely 110% agree with this :)
I know, it will be nice to have him here. He is a very smart person and knows his car in the most minor detail. Knows what type of bolt was used here, and there, what metal, what materials, etc. :D

MasterKevin

27-10-2011, 11:12 AM

Yes. You are absolutely right. But this was just a "raw" setup. He ,together with Revo Australia, will tweak this car and some hardware parts will follow on the car, so he will pass 320awkw. I will ask him if he wants to join the forum

do0o0o ittt :D

dsiew

27-10-2011, 12:34 PM

Teff, between yourself and Simon, who started the build first? Was this why you both chose to go Revo?

Footguy

27-10-2011, 01:00 PM

Rudy R has posted here before. Was around the time in the build up to the Motor Mag modified car event (forget what it was called)

BBR32

27-10-2011, 01:19 PM

what wheels is the white R got ?

CSR

27-10-2011, 02:37 PM

Don't believe the TQ figure but looks nice. Well done to Revo..

TEFF

27-10-2011, 08:31 PM

Teff, between yourself and Simon, who started the build first? Was this why you both chose to go Revo?
To be honest i don't know who started first. I've ordered the parts for BT somewhere in March 2011. Then i posted on another forum, and met Simon there. And since then we've kept connection. But i don't know 100% sure id he ordered the parts first, or me. One thing is sure: i work with Revo for 3 years. Simon was at another company. (i won't tell the reasons why he moved to Revo, but i'm glad i met him because i've learned a lot from him)

Rudy R has posted here before. Was around the time in the build up to the Motor Mag modified car event (forget what it was called)

what wheels is the white R got ?
Volk VR G2 :D

Don't believe the TQ figure but looks nice. Well done to Revo..

The setup is not finished, those were some preliminare figures. He has some serious parts under the bonnet. The final result should be interesting :D

27-10-2011, 08:39 PM

Teff your golf R is awesome buddy... Great to see these bad boys pushed to the limit..

bluefrog

27-10-2011, 08:42 PM

Volk VR G2 :D

mmmmm, G2's .. can't wait to get my grubby hands on a set soon :>

The setup is not finished, those were some preliminare figures. He has some serious parts under the bonnet. The final result should be interesting :D

If this is the same Simon who's white R I saw up on the hoist with engine on the ground at Volkspower in August, he does indeed have some nice fruit .. pretty sure that Dean said that it was now a $130k R :D :D

TEFF

27-10-2011, 08:44 PM

Thank you very much AP. I have a saying of my own: "If you never push you limits then you never know what your capable of". And i've always loved to see where my limits are, and what i have to improve at me as a human being.
To be honest you have the car i've dreamed at before i bought the R. HPA R36TT. Your car really is a work of art. The quality of the parts is at another level. Congrats

Regards

TEFF

27-10-2011, 08:49 PM

Bluefrog, all i can say is that his R really one of a kind. A lot of money invested, but he really studied every part in detail before ordering it. Great guy, and i repeat myself: i'm glad i met him

MasterKevin

27-10-2011, 08:57 PM

ALl i can say is STefan take me for a spin ! Fly your beast to my house now ! haha

TEFF

27-10-2011, 09:07 PM

I was one step ahead of you Kevin. Right now i'm on my way to you :D. I would love to visit Australia sometime. Everynight i look with my fiance to TV at Zone Reality, and Investigation Discovery, on documentaries about Australia :D

bluefrog

27-10-2011, 09:10 PM

Stefan make sure you ship the R across when you come! ;)

Tarmac

27-10-2011, 09:11 PM

haha come TEFF. Im sure the VW community in AUS will look after you. However our cars will be a bit underpowered for you :)

TEFF

27-10-2011, 09:35 PM

Stefan make sure you ship the R across when you come! ;)
He he :D. When i was at Revo UK i was in shock when i entered in UK. Because they drive on the other side than Romania. I don't want to experience that again :D Just a joke :D I would love to come there

haha come TEFF. Im sure the VW community in AUS will look after you. However our cars will be a bit underpowered for you :)
At the end of the day, a car is just a pile of metal. People is what matters :D. You really have some powerfull cars over there :D. If everything goes well, maybe i will take my fiance and come to Australia in summer :D Would love to visit your beautiful country

TEFF

27-10-2011, 09:38 PM

mmmmm, G2's .. can't wait to get my grubby hands on a set soon :>

Indeed G2's are some serious wheels :D

Rudy-R

28-10-2011, 01:39 AM

850+Nm of torque and 290KW+ of power at the wheels? Is that right? If it is, awesome build! Be nice to have rudy-r come join this forum and share his work.

Stefan,
Thank you for showcasing our REVO stage 4 builds. I reckon we have shared several 100 emails over the last 4 or 5 months. With your advice and encouragement, the challenges have been overcome. It has been some journey, and i'm glad we are nearing the end:)

I shall post a much more detailed post in the near future...I am just about to head off to Victorian Alps for 5 days, and will have limited internet access. Upon my return, I shall hopefully shed some light on the challenges posed by this monumental build.

Just a couple of points:

Why REVO? Quite simply, the original APR tune although good for 257awkw 700nm, could never cope with the raft of changes to this motor. I have no doubt at all that Dean and GH will be somewhat disappointed. While Dean's service was excellent, the APR was not able to be altered. The REVO tune, with all of the adjustments necessary was expertly managed by Raymond at Audvolks, and above all, was able to be completely customised.

The car is not yet complete, as it still runs the relatively small Carbonio intake, and APR's restrictive T25 divorced DP. For comparisons sake, on a calibrated mainline dyno, the torque has risen 170NM, and power around 50awkw. So, a sample graph shows 291awkw, 868Nm. LC today 0-100 in 3.55sec, 40psi.

In development the car has already hit 305awkw at 18psi, 98 Octane. Once the exhaust is customised, and the new ITG Maxogen intake is installed, then I would expect to easily hit 325-333awkw. Note my licence plate....

I haven't even started to play with oxygenated fuels yet as Stefan has, so again i would expect a further modest gain. I shall never achieve Stefan's 360-380 awkw, as my Intake is the relatively poor cousin (HEP Stage 1+).

Cost. No where near 130k. Certainly north of 100k, including the Recaro SPA seats being installed in a fortnight, and Arkym bonnet (due any day).

Apart from the motor, the single best other component on the cart is the KW-DDC adaptive chassis control. A world better than stock Monroes, and the contact patch is that much greater to really inspire confidence in the twisties. Thanks to Erik @ Evl motorsports for having the first commercially available set of these shocks in the world installed on my Golf-R.

Stefan has a couple of other shots of my car, so if you ask him nicely, he might show you a picture of the VRG2's etc.

Full build info to follow, I promise.

Cheers

Simon

just_quietly

28-10-2011, 02:10 AM

Simon.
This is exciting. Looking forward to more amazing info regarding your build. This is what we like to read.
I for one chose REVO (5 years ago) over all the other tunes because it allows us to custom tune the car to different climate and temps to maximize performance.
To be able to data log my engine and adjust negative and positive timing in all 4 cylinders with my own laptop made the car even more enjoyable and I learnt so much.
Thanks for sharing.

Stefan - keep the candy coming....

bluefrog

28-10-2011, 02:21 AM

thanks gents for letting us know more about REVO and the kind of things they can do

haven't been to Audvolks yet .. sounds like it's time for a trip to Clayton ;)

TEFF

28-10-2011, 03:24 AM

Hello Simon. I'm glad you are here. From what i know the Stage 1 intake has the same volumetric capacity like my Stage 2, except that i have the 8 extra slots for fuel and meth injectors. Now a Stage 3 version is in work, with even more volumetric capacity :D

Here are the pictures guys:

VR G2's with 245/35R19:
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/RinprofileGTXandrotorscomplete-1.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/Rinprofile.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/ALCONVRG2BESTPHOTO.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/VRG2frontright.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/VRG2frontleft.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/drilledrearbrakesonhoist.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/KWDDCwith2453519.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/Rdrilledrotorsoncar26Oct.jpg

Now the track wheels: Advan Racing RZ
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/AdvanRacingRZ1.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/AdvanRacingRZ2.jpg

Rudy-R

28-10-2011, 07:37 AM

Jig

28-10-2011, 08:11 AM

Awesome build Simon and TEFF of course. Nice to have you guys on board here. Inspiration to all Golf R owners.

TEFF

28-10-2011, 10:25 AM

Thank you Jig. Thank you very much

CSR

28-10-2011, 10:41 AM

Hi Stefan et al,
I think I went overboard in sending thru those wheel pics!
For the record, I have two set-ups:
ROAD: VRG2 19 x 8 ET48 running on Conti 5P
TRACK: Yokohama RZ 18 x 8 running on Neova's.

I have had Kerscher guards too, but have not installed them to date as there are no issues with rubbing.

The VRG2's were ordered in February along with the Alcons; this was the beginning of my BT project. Both the Brakes and Wheels took almost 6 months to arrive due to custom changes I requested. More to come soon.....

Cheers

Simon

Hah I heard about your kerscher guards, I asked my panelbeater what it would cost to get a set and paint them and he said someone with a white golf R asked him the same thing :).
He recommended I don't fit them unless I absolutely need them and would need to respray all the surrounding panels (bumper, bonnet, guards, front doors) in order for everything to match properly. Sounds painful!

TEFF

28-10-2011, 10:59 AM

CSR, Simon, you call guards at fenders? If so, i love them. Have them since June. I've painted them at VW dealership and the paint matched perfectly :D

CSR

28-10-2011, 11:12 AM

Yes fenders Stefan :)

What'd it cost you for the respray out of curiosity? Can't have been cheap from VW dealership..

Rudy-R

28-10-2011, 11:24 AM

LP panels was where I received a quote. Guards = fenders only, no guarantee of a perfect match was around $700. More than double that for bonnet, doors etc for "the perfect match".
I'm holding off till my bonnet arrives.....

dave-r

28-10-2011, 11:38 AM

TRACK: Yokohama RZ 18 x 8 running on Neova's.
Love these, would run them 24/7!

CSR

28-10-2011, 11:38 AM

Yep...Exxy..

I recently had all my front panels resprayed under insurance, didn't get the guards as I couldn't justify them still without the extra paint costs!!

TEFF

28-10-2011, 11:54 AM

Simon, can't wait to see your bonnet :D

CSR: i paid 300€ (400 AUD) at VW for them to be repainted :D

Rudy-R

29-10-2011, 07:05 PM

Hi ALL,

Here is an abridged version of the reply I made on another forum, to hopefully quench the thirst for information on why I thought it necessary to change from the relative safety of the original tune to the new REVO Stage 4 tune; BTW, thanks for your interest, PM's and queries :)

For the benefit of this forum, I shall repeat myself: the reason for changing to REVO was about producing the best possible result from my car. Many of you will already know that i once had he first APR tuned Stage 3 Golf-R in Australia. This tune was good, but inflexible. I could not run higher octane fuels or WMI without returning to the local APR tuner for a flash reload. As early as February, I had already started planning the components for my new tune.

APR provided a good foundation, but the experiences of a chap named Darius (MOTOR Magazine challenge, Tunehouse Golf-R) had me worried. Initially I had planned to modify the car, hoping that APR tune would cope with the changes. Darius was hoping for 300+awkw with his BW EFR turbo. Despite the specs, he ended up with a miserable 239awkw, and could not crack 4s for 0-100kph

APR stage 3 was good for 257awkw, 700nm. Nice, but just not enough.
After I started changing things, dyno logs followed by baseline dyno runs confirmed my worst suspicion; the cars output was 176.9awkw, with only 450nm; I have graphs to prove this point too. Darius too had run in to the same problems - the APR tune only seems to work when you purchase all of their specific componentry.

Now, can i say that the local ApR tuner in Melbourne is truly a great fellow. He bent over backwards to help my car run, but in the end, his product could not cope with the changes I had made. It was time to search elsewhere....

REVO offered adjustability, flexibility, and complete control of the tuning process. i liked that, and even better, the fact that with no effort at all, and still with a few of the more restrictive APR components residing in my engine bay, I was still able to easily exceed 300awkw.

I am but an amateur in this tuning process. Like Stefan, I have an analytical mind, and have a strong olfactory sense for faeculant matter produced by some of the largest farm animals.

Already this car has peaked at exactly 325awkw, well short of Stefan's 350awkw, but he has the components that i still require (CAI by ITG and, 3" V Band exhaust).

Since joining the REVO fraternity, there is NO looking back. REVO has offered me everything I wished for, with internet access to knowledge in the UK or Romania at the touch of a button.

If all my R ever wanted was the colour GRAY, then my previous tune would have been fine. I love to push the envelope, and now it can see vivid oranges and greens like never before.

I repeat myself: I am NOT a FAN BOY; I just want the best for my car.

I hope this answers the questions that you all have.

Regards

Simon

bluefrog

29-10-2011, 08:22 PM

Thanks Simon for taking the time to detail your experiences.

I and no doubt many others very much appreciate the opportunity to have our eyes opened to possibilities of such scale that we'd previously been very much unaware of (or at least I was anyway ; )

Thanks again Stefan, Simon, and our other local legends who have been kind enough to share what you've learnt.

Jig

29-10-2011, 09:17 PM

29-10-2011, 09:23 PM

Good luck Simon and Teff look forward to seeing these beasts in action!

CSR

29-10-2011, 09:46 PM

Nice answer Simon, I think that's what we are all looking for at the end of the day, and if one particular tune does not deliver what you are looking for, that doesn't necessarily reflect on the tuner but on what you are looking to get out of the car.

That said though, 173 kw -> 300 kw is a big jump for just a different tune and is not the first time we have heard these underwhelming figures on what was originally advertised from this particular tuner.

Anyway, not looking to start a tuner war but thanks to you & Stefan for showcasing your gorgeous R's. Looking forward to seeing you at one of the meets soon!

just_quietly

30-10-2011, 12:26 AM

salute' Simone e Stefano! Well said. Well done.

fuzion

30-10-2011, 10:29 AM

Wow. Go overseas and so much to catch up and read on when I'm back!

Absolutely awesome read and build. Makes me sad the S3 is only around the 220 mark! But also makes me want to keep going further lol. Argh!

Was only in Croatia week before. Would of driven over to Romania to see this haha. Incredibly nice work!

Curious with the brakes and wheels. ET46 only thing that clears your brakes?

TEFF

30-10-2011, 11:42 AM

fuzion

30-10-2011, 07:22 PM

Thank you very much guys. It really means a lot when someone apreciates the work and passion you have invested in a car.

@fuzion: i also have H&R 15mm spacers on front. But for track i have a set of Team Dynamics ProRace 1.3 with ET35 front & ET42 rear. And they clear the brakes very well :D

thanks for letting me know! just looking for other wheel options and nothing clears the porsche 996tt calipers unfortunately! lol

need some video of it completed..

tippah

30-10-2011, 10:48 PM

Hi teff I'm about to go revo stage 2+ hat power figures were you putting out with that setup??

TEFF

31-10-2011, 11:55 PM

Hello tippah. I did 370hp with Revo Stage 2+, but this was due to DSG shifting at 6500rpm. I i had a manual gearbox and dia a run till 7200rpm i'm sure i would achieved 380HP

tippah

01-11-2011, 10:30 PM

Hello tippah. I did 370hp with Revo Stage 2+, but this was due to DSG shifting at 6500rpm. I i had a manual gearbox and dia a run till 7200rpm i'm sure i would achieved 380HP

WOW thats really good was that power figure at the wheels Teff??

Nathan_b

01-11-2011, 11:23 PM

Awesome build buddy - love the path you have taken

TEFF

02-11-2011, 02:11 AM

WOW thats really good was that power figure at the wheels Teff??
Sorry buddy, that power was at crank :(

Awesome build buddy - love the path you have taken

Thank you very much Nathan

TEFF

02-11-2011, 03:56 AM

Team Dynamics ProRace 1.3 are here

18x8.5, ET35 front/ ET42 rear

Matte black

In pictures not the most beautiful wheels available. But thinking that i will be using them only in winter and rarely on track days, they are good products for less money

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/87e7cdd1.jpg

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/3bfbc4b2.jpg

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/IMG_0054.jpg

fuzion

02-11-2011, 10:17 AM

very nice!

TEFF

03-11-2011, 05:53 AM

Winter tyres are on. Pretty interesting profile for a winter tyre imo

Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3. They are the equivalent of Michelin Pilot Sport PS3, but for snow. I hope they perform good

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/19fe78d9.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/09c6f34e.jpg

Rudy-R

03-11-2011, 08:08 AM

Hi Stefan
I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the match of these matte-black rims with your soon-to-be-installed black head lights. StealthieR.
Glad you like the TD1.3's; they are not so readily available in Australia as the Advans.
The 14th November will shortly be upon us.....

Cheers

Simon

Simon

ravun

03-11-2011, 09:02 AM

Nice rims. I quite like the Team Dynamics rims Pro Race 1.2 and 1.3.

I also agree, the black rims and black headlights should be a perfect match.

Looking great.

TEFF

03-11-2011, 11:34 AM

Thank you Rudy, indeed 14th of November is close... :D

Thank you ravun. Hope they will look good on the car :D

TEFF

04-11-2011, 09:06 PM

I've seen on many Racing VW's that they have the caliper behind the front wheels axle. Do you have any idea if there is an aftermarket hub?

They did it for weight distribution right?

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/4619367131_4d7819eb9d_b.jpg

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/4546385062_331d218d2d_o.jpg

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/3510339807_93c3c15d78_b.jpg

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/2272242354_0e460e73cd_o.jpg

TEFF

05-11-2011, 01:03 AM

Found the VW Motorsport Catalog. Pretty interesting. I will keep this saved, for my future projects

http://www.vwmotorsport.com/seatcat/seatcat.asp

Rudy-R

05-11-2011, 08:43 AM

Something else of interest.....
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb440/Rudy-R/ArkymfromLfront.jpg
and this....
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb440/Rudy-R/Arykminsidebestphoto.jpg

to be fitted to a certain CW Golf-R very soon.

5.8kg of 3k CF goodness

TEFF

05-11-2011, 08:49 AM

Niiiiice. Congrats Simon. It really looks top quality

PS: make it white :D

CSR

05-11-2011, 12:41 PM

I think he is going to paint it white together with his widened guards..Simon get a new front bumper in that case since you'll be spraying all the front panels ;)

aaaaah

05-11-2011, 01:15 PM

I've seen on many Racing VW's that they have the caliper behind the front wheels axle. Do you have any idea if there is an aftermarket hub?

They did it for weight distribution right?

Generally speaking caliper position is dictated by fitting components around the suspension geometry. It's possible that in changing the suspension over for racing that they now have the steering arms on the front side of the uprights instead of the rear.

Rudy-R

05-11-2011, 02:57 PM

I think he is going to paint it white together with his widened guards..Simon get a new front bumper in that case since you'll be spraying all the front panels ;)

CSR: you must already know that I have approximately 40% of a GOLF-R sitting in my garage while Stefan and I have been quietly building our REVO Stage 4 cars.
And, like the advert for "John West" fish cutlets, rejecting those that just don't make the mark. How many 3-letter components can a man buy and then discard?
One day soon I think i shall indeed have a fire sale, and offer Stage 3 setup, R brakes, suspension so that I can make room for that front bumper.

TEFF: thank you. I don't think you will be disappointed in this item at all. Mirror finish, perfect on delivery despite the long journey in a huge cardboard box from USA. And yes, in order to maintain the relatively stealthy approach, it shall be white.

Cheers,

Simon

GBJ-R32

05-11-2011, 03:30 PM

I like the cf hood,

Fire sales are the bomb. Just saying

Rudy-R

06-11-2011, 09:09 PM

I like the cf hood,

Fire sales are the bomb. Just saying

Thanks for your vote of confidence WRT the bonnet :)

I really can't see much point in keeping all of this very lightly used APR gear, or stock componentry for that matter, which has been superceded in the last 6 months. As with many other VAG fans, I have gone too far already to return it to stock or thereabouts. As i said earlier, if this gear had worked with the REVO tune, i would have kept it. The whole lot will be available for sale no earlier than December.

Cheers

Simon

06-11-2011, 10:10 PM

Thanks for your vote of confidence WRT the bonnet :)

I really can't see much point in keeping all of this very lightly used APR gear, or stock componentry for that matter, which has been superceded in the last 6 months. As with many other VAG fans, I have gone too far already to return it to stock or thereabouts. As i said earlier, if this gear had worked with the REVO tune, i would have kept it. The whole lot will be available for sale no earlier than December.

Cheers

Simon

Why not just sell it back to GH?

dave-r

07-11-2011, 10:59 AM

Why not just sell it back to GH?
On what grounds? Surely it couldn't be because the products don't meet their claims.

MasterKevin

07-11-2011, 11:44 AM

On what grounds? Surely it couldn't be because the products don't meet their claims.

You got trolled :p

ikprojekt

07-11-2011, 06:07 PM

This R is hard as! I love it. Sub'd

Rudy-R

07-11-2011, 07:48 PM

Why not just sell it back to GH?

I am not sure that GH has been particularly amused by my lateral movement away from the 3L family of components. TBH, I have not asked him, but if the explosive response from the primary 3L dealer in Melbourne was anything to go by, then this alleged "defection" has cut deep.
Truth be known, I was offered a Stage 4 3L tune too (good for a pretty handy 318awkw on Turbo-Evo / perfo 105, I have been reliably advised), and I was told that they would throw in a free motor if I bought the tune. The only catch was the cost. AUD 40k.

Now, in defence of 3L products, they work very well if you don't plan on venturing outside the company model. The intercooler seems to be as good as most, and that deeply embedded component wont be coming off any time soon.

In my books, tuning is about maintaining a point of performance difference from the mainstream. Look at AP's car. Look at FAB's car. Look at what Sam is doing to a Mark 6 GTI with a TSI motor. Look at TEFF's work of art and REVO 4 car, particularly.

For those looking to buy the 3L components cheaply, I have bad news. There is at least one potential buyer here in Melbourne who has considered buying the lot lock stock and barrel. Remember, a Stage 3 3L car can easily do a very quick 1/4, and leave STI's, HSV's, FPV's etc gasping in its wake.

Having said that, I am curious to see what the updated REVO 4 tune will do with an extra 75+awkw and an extra 200NM torgue; if not this coming weekend, then certainly in December. It all depends on return of said vehicle with new pews.....

Cheers

Simon

Nabsta

07-11-2011, 08:08 PM

TEFF

07-11-2011, 08:44 PM

I don't know David :D You are correct. I can't figure out what is represented there

Rudy-R

07-11-2011, 08:58 PM

:Possibly Timing advancement in degrees?
Maybe even IAT, or EGT? There is no obvious scale though :icon_neutral:

TEFF

08-11-2011, 06:37 AM

dave-r

08-11-2011, 01:47 PM

I am not sure that GH has been particularly amused by my lateral movement away from the 3L family of components. TBH, I have not asked him, but if the explosive response from the primary 3L dealer in Melbourne was anything to go by, then this alleged "defection" has cut deep.
Wow you mean that primary dealer had less than complimentary things to say? I'm sure I heard someone else receive the same treatment, nah couldn't be. They have the utmost professionalism, you must be wrong!

Rudy-R

08-11-2011, 07:27 PM

Wow you mean that primary dealer had less than complimentary things to say? I'm sure I heard someone else receive the same treatment, nah couldn't be. They have the utmost professionalism, you must be wrong!
We at REVO, all happily powered-up, are not biting. Nice try though :)

08-11-2011, 08:13 PM

We at REVO, all happily powered-up, are not biting. Nice try though :)

Are you a REVO dealer?

Rudy-R

08-11-2011, 08:23 PM

Are you a REVO dealer?
Absolutely not!
Like you, AP, I am passionate about my cars, and I applaud those who provide the expertise and skill to make our VAG cars run so well. it is as simple as that. I respect and reward excellence, every time i see it, with absolutely NO kickback. The world runs well that way - don't you agree?

08-11-2011, 08:27 PM

Absolutely not!
Like you, AP, I am passionate about my cars, and I applaud those who provide the expertise and skill to make our VAG cars run so well. it is as simple as that. I respect and reward excellence, every time i see it, with absolutely NO kickback. The world runs well that way - don't you agree?

Defiantly.. Can't wait to see the beast beat GH's Golf R..

Rudy-R

08-11-2011, 08:41 PM

Defiantly.. Can't wait to see the beast beat GH's Golf R..
Now you and I both know that our cars on 98 octane are already producing more awkw (just) and way more nm (+100-200) than GH ever will with his 40K stage 4 3L motr. And we probably spent peanuts to get a similar result.
Somehow, I dont think GH would want to visit Victoria right now....

08-11-2011, 08:55 PM

I dont think GH would want to visit Victoria right now....

Hehehehe

GBJ-R32

08-11-2011, 10:34 PM

can someone please tell me what all this talk about a 3L motor is ??

Rudy-R

08-11-2011, 10:45 PM

3 L = 3 letter, starting with A.
Sorry for the 'code'. I'm sure GH from A_R in QLD would not want others to know that there were actually better tunes out there, for less $_$_$.

HCGTI

08-11-2011, 11:13 PM

3 L = 3 letter, starting with A.
Sorry for the 'code'. I'm sure GH from A_R in QLD would not want others to know that there were actually better tunes out there, for less $_$_$.
you should be greatful that ARIN is not here to try and preach to you!! hahaha.
but keep up the good work mate!!

Nabsta

08-11-2011, 11:27 PM

:Possibly Timing advancement in degrees?
Maybe even IAT, or EGT? There is no obvious scale though :icon_neutral:

Exactly! I'm an ex-engineer and now in IT so I don't like loose ends like unscaled graphs! ;)

DeanCorp

08-11-2011, 11:29 PM

Exactly! I'm an ex-engineer and now in IT so I don't like loose ends like unscaled graphs! ;)

Yeah I don't like loose chicks either.

Nabsta

08-11-2011, 11:32 PM

Yeah I don't like loose chicks either.

Are you mad or stupid? Shouldn't turn away any loose tail... ;)

DeanCorp

08-11-2011, 11:33 PM

Are you mad or stupid? Shouldn't turn away any loose tail... ;)

I'd prefer to use my hand, I can keep it tight at all times.

just_quietly

08-11-2011, 11:35 PM

hahaha. stinky dirty kents.

08-11-2011, 11:36 PM

Are you mad or stupid? Shouldn't turn away any loose tail... ;)

Not mad just gay I suppose..

Fab_R

08-11-2011, 11:49 PM

I'd prefer to use my hand, I can keep it tight at all times.

WTF...!

CSR

09-11-2011, 03:57 AM

3 L = 3 letter, starting with A.
Sorry for the 'code'. I'm sure GH from A_R in QLD would not want others to know that there were actually better tunes out there, for less $_$_$.

You'd need to be a doctor to break this code... ;)

Rudy-R

09-11-2011, 07:16 AM

RevoZport splitter is here. I've chosen the plastic version as i want to paint it gloss black. Tomorrow i will leave it at VW for painting. Next week it will be on the car

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/DSC_0020.jpg

Back on track now...
TEFF, the 14th is nigh. Do you have a preview picture of this latest addition to your car?

Fab_R

09-11-2011, 08:53 AM

Stefan,

I can not believe i missed the creation of this thread!

I have just read thru the 20 pages, though i have been following your build thread on golfmk6, i'm still riveted on what you have done and achieved with your R.

Likewise, i'm loving what Simon has created with his build - both outstanding R's and the absolute benchmark!

Congratulations to you both.

Simon, please, your build thread must be imminent yes?

Simon, looking forward to catching up with you soon mate, and seeing your R again in its new POWER and glory :)

Fab_R

09-11-2011, 08:53 AM

TEFF

09-11-2011, 09:34 AM

Back on track now...
TEFF, the 14th is nigh. Do you have a preview picture of this latest addition to your car?

Not yet Simon

In about 2 weeks i think i will install it on the car :D

Stefan,

I can not believe i missed the creation of this thread!

I have just read thru the 20 pages, though i have been following your build thread on golfmk6, i'm still riveted on what you have done and achieved with your R.

Likewise, i'm loving what Simon has created with his build - both outstanding R's and the absolute benchmark!

Congratulations to you both.

Simon, please, your build thread must be imminent yes?

Simon, looking forward to catching up with you soon mate, and seeing your R again in its new POWER and glory :)

Thank you very much Fab_R.
We are waiting for you to make the BIG step :D (big turbo)

MasterKevin

09-11-2011, 09:59 AM

Thank you very much Fab_R.
We are waiting for you to make the BIG step :D (big turbo)

same here :D hahaha car looking great Teff :)

Rudy-R

09-11-2011, 07:38 PM

Likewise, i'm loving what Simon has created with his build - both outstanding R's and the absolute benchmark!

Congratulations to you both.

Simon, please, your build thread must be imminent yes?

Hi Fab,

Stefan and I have waited this long to make our cars as perfect as possible, so we figure a few more weeks is not going to hurt us or you, for that matter.

From next Monday night, 14th November / Tuesday 15th, you will start to see what we have really built. We are truly excited about this collabarative project. If you think a Golf-R can produce just 318awkw on Octane enriched fuel, think again. We have vehicles with far greater potential, on standard pump gas.

Both Stefan and I have not finalised our ECU tunes, and although Stefan has all of his hardware intact, my car is still 30-35kw down on potential due to a slight delay in arrival of the modified ITG CAI. I also need to replace my 3L downpipe to further improve flow. So, Stefan and I have agreed to start sharing out builds on this site, as they are both intrinsically REVO 4 tunes.

My final ECU tune will be uploaded in the 2nd week of December, just 4 weeks from now. In the interim, I am able to run low boost only. FTR, the first dyno graph that was shared was at 16psi. I am now running at 20psi max for the next 4 weeks only. When we finish, I will have the option of running 37psi (2.5BAR), which is the benefit of a rock solid motor with forged internals, head bolts, etc etc.

Mark my words though, the output of these BT motors is phenomenal. The ability to have a tune that you can calibrate due to changing ambient conditions / fuel quality is also a very exciting breakthrough. Even better, this can be done in he car and does not require an internet connection to Arkansas, or where ever on the planet there is a 3L depot.

Nuclear fission? Stefan and I, and our project supervisors are very confident in the outcome. I guess only time will tell.

Cheers

Simon / Stefan / REVO technik 4

Nabsta

09-11-2011, 08:28 PM

I'd prefer to use my hand, I can keep it tight at all times.

Just hope you're talking about your car now... ;-)

Nabsta

09-11-2011, 08:29 PM

Hi Fab,

Stefan and I have waited this long to make our cars as perfect as possible, so we figure a few more weeks is not going to hurt us or you, for that matter.

From next Monday night, 14th November / Tuesday 15th, you will start to see what we have really built. We are truly excited about this collabarative project. If you think a Golf-R can produce just 318awkw on Octane enriched fuel, think again. We have vehicles with far greater potential, on standard pump gas.

Both Stefan and I have not finalised our ECU tunes, and although Stefan has all of his hardware intact, my car is still 30-35kw down on potential due to a slight delay in arrival of the modified ITG CAI. I also need to replace my 3L downpipe to further improve flow. So, Stefan and I have agreed to start sharing out builds on this site, as they are both intrinsically REVO 4 tunes.

My final ECU tune will be uploaded in the 2nd week of December, just 4 weeks from now. In the interim, I am able to run low boost only. FTR, the first dyno graph that was shared was at 16psi. I am now running at 20psi max for the next 4 weeks only. When we finish, I will have the option of running 37psi (2.5BAR), which is the benefit of a rock solid motor with forged internals, head bolts, etc etc.

Mark my words though, the output of these BT motors is phenomenal. The ability to have a tune that you can calibrate due to changing ambient conditions / fuel quality is also a very exciting breakthrough. Even better, this can be done in he car and does not require an internet connection to Arkansas, or where ever on the planet there is a 3L depot.

Nuclear fission? Stefan and I, and our project supervisors are very confident in the outcome. I guess only time will tell.

Cheers

Simon / Stefan / REVO technik 4

Nutters, but sane ones, if that makes sense? Does to me... ;)

Rudy-R

09-11-2011, 08:42 PM

Mad? Probably.
Obsessed with perfection? No arguement here.
Tolerant of SPAM indiscretions.......
Keen to show up the weaknesses in the (3L) opposition. Abso-f-luletly.

TEFF

10-11-2011, 08:53 PM

Simon gave me his mod list. It's big, it's awesome :D

VSG-333: The build

The ECU Tune:
REVO stage4

Engine:
Pistons: Integrated Engineering 82.5mm, CR 9.5:1, tops and skirts thermal coated
Wrist pins: ARP tool steel
Con rods: Integrated Engineering, Forged 92.8mm stroke
Bearings: Calico race 0.00 coated
Big End Bolts: ARP 625+
Intake manifold: HEP1+, stock throttle body, provision for Direct Ethanol injection
PCV Delete: HEP with double o-ring seal
Head Gasket: Cometic, OEM dimension
Head Studs: ARP 625+
Main Studs: ARP 625+
Timing gear: ARP Dowel pin + kit
Main Pulley: Fluidampr
Spark Plugs: Iridium NGK8EIX
Coil Packs: Plasma Project
Engine Mounts: VF Engineering
Transmission Mount: Dogbone by BSH
Turbo: GTX3071R CHRA with GT25 IWG turbine cover and modified CH from GT2871R
N75 delete
Intercooler: APR OEM replacement
ITG maxogen CAI pending (to replace APR GTI Carbonio, which has been used in all Dyno runs to date)
Dump pipe: APR Divorced GT25 (3” VBand pending) with Exhaust: APR 3” Cat back with 95mm tips
Lubricant: Fuchs Titan C3

DSG:
SSP 500 with 5.8L SSP Progold Lubricant
HPA Stage 4 custom software; LC 5000RPM, Limit 8100RPM
Haldex gen 4 controller with HPA remapping

Interior mods:
Recaro SPA Kevlar seats, custom covered with OEM VW leather charcoal
Instrument cluster: OSIR duo
Guages: Stack pro Control race Lambda and Boost gauges; E-boost street 40.
REVO: OBD2 SPS controller for boost, timing and fuel load
Vent Mounted interface: p3 for RPM and launch timing (+IAT, EGT, coolant temps)

Exterior mods:
Road Wheels: Rays VRG2 19x 8, ET50, shod with Conti P5 245.35.19
Track Wheels: Advan racing RZ ET50, shod with Neova 245.45.18
Bonnet: ARKM CF pending
Front fenders: Kercher widened GF pending

Suspension Mods:
KW DDC Electronic V3 coilovers, with 40mm reduction front, 50mm reduction rear
Whiteline ALK
ARB: H & R 26mm rear, 22mm front, solid

Brakes:
Front: Alcon 4P 355mm x 28mm with Project Mu pads
Rear: TAROX 310mm drilled and grooved rotors with ergal hats. Cryogenically treated. Countersunk holes, Project Mu pads
Brake lines: Goodridge braided SS all round
Brake fluid: Motul 5.1

10-11-2011, 09:09 PM

Awesome Teff.. One strong engine there!

bwen

10-11-2011, 09:22 PM

Mod list is beautiful, cannot wait to see the final completion of this project... Definitely want to see how far these engines can be pushed

TEFF

10-11-2011, 09:51 PM

Awesome Teff.. One strong engine there!
Indeed. Simon has a well built car. A car built with performance in mind, every part was well inspected before getting on the car. I really like his car.

Mod list is beautiful, cannot wait to see the final completion of this project... Definitely want to see how far these engines can be pushed
They can be pushed very high, depending on everybody's target :P

11-11-2011, 12:13 AM

When are we going to see your carpet and about Simon?

Rudy-R

11-11-2011, 06:39 AM

Indeed. Simon has a well built car. A car built with performance in mind, every part was well inspected before getting on the car. I really like his car.

They can be pushed very high, depending on everybody's target :P

Thanks Stefan, for hosting the build basics for my R.
Thank you also to AP, bwen et al for genuine interest in this project.

The target finish date is the 1st or second week in December; photos, videos and logs will be published around this time. In the interim, my car is up and running on low boost (16-20psi), and may still be seen commuting around Melbourne. If there is a chance to catch up, I shll send a note to Fab; he seems deeply entrenched in the scene:)

Stefan and I had planned to jointly deliver the cars to you all by Monday or Tuesday next week, but have decided to delay it a little longer whilst the finishing touches are applied. I cant speak directly for TEFF's car, which is undergoing further important changes but will add only that his vehicle will be more resplendent, and more powerful than anything seen before on this site. Period.

In my case, over the coming weeks, the major restrictions in the compressor and turbine pathways will be simultaneously resolved; the 3L CAI and 2871R are being completely replaced by REVO-ITG custom 102mm cold-air-induction system in to a full sized GTX3071R, which will in turn exit via a 3' v-band exhaust. Once this is complete, and the final remapping established by REVO Technik, then the car will be ready.

I am happy to answer any relevant questions on this site in the coming weeks.

Lastly, a big thank you to the following :

Raymond and James @ Audvolks for the REVO stage 4 remapping (countless hours of work to improve on the prior tune)
Erik @ EVL motorsports for advice on suspension set up, and in particular advice on KW-DDC coilover suspension / camber etc etc
And last but not least, Stefan, with whom I have traded around 300+emails to arrive at this destination.

Cheers

Simon

Fab_R

11-11-2011, 06:56 AM

Thanks for the update Simon, the build specs are mouth watering indeed.

And a GTX3071R going in...FTW!!
Nice!!!

How do you find the Gen4 Haldex Controller, and where did you end up getting it from?

You forgot the 3L in your thank you's >D

I cannot wait for your specific build thread, and to catch up in December tbh.

zz2

11-11-2011, 07:01 AM

Teff mate, keep up the good work! your build thread is just as meticulous as your hypo R!

Fab, GO TO BED!

Rudy-R

11-11-2011, 07:07 AM

Sorry. Thanks to 3L. Without them, I would never be where I am today......
I feel better now.

It was one of the many things that was installed when my car spent an eon on the hoists.
Good? Haven't really had an opportunity to test it properly yet. Apparently makes car more like a RWD, and good for a 1/10th on the Qr. Will let you know.

Fab_R

11-11-2011, 07:09 AM

Teff mate, keep up the good work! your build thread is just as meticulous as your hypo R!

Fab, GO TO BED!

LOL, i was up at 4am Marky :)

I will sleep when im dead ;)

zz2

11-11-2011, 07:11 AM

fuck that Fab, its 3:10 here and i have 735 words left in this 3000 word essay. i dont cope well with this wordy shit :mad:

Fab_R

11-11-2011, 07:13 AM

fuck that Fab, its 3:10 here and i have 735 words left in this 3000 word essay. i dont cope well with this wordy shit :mad:

Oh damn, good luck bro....A Strong Short black will help mate...

TEFF

11-11-2011, 07:17 AM

Thank you Simon, thank you guys. My car still has to receive some minor tweaks for optimum street performance.

In maximum 2 weeks i should receive the car, and keep it one week for pictures, movies. After that, on winter period (december-february) it will be into another shop for something very special. Something that i don't think it has been done to a golf yet :D

11-11-2011, 08:58 AM

Crazy Golf R

GBJ-R32

20-11-2011, 12:53 AM

Teff update the 14th has gone past already!!

Rudy-R

20-11-2011, 07:40 AM

Hi Ibrahim,
Refer to thread quote "214". At this stage, both cars will be ready by the end of second week in December. The delay is largely due to the nature of the custom tune that each of these Revo Stage 4 cars now runs. In addition, TEFF's car is being treated to a cosmetic make-over as well, so neither car is available for display for a little while yet :(. Thanks for your interest and patience. And yes, if you are wondering, one can easily exceed 300awkw on 98 Octane with these cars :)
Cheers, Simon

Fab_R

20-11-2011, 07:53 AM

Waiting impatiently ;)

GBJ-R32

20-11-2011, 10:23 AM

Hi Ibrahim,
Refer to thread quote "214". At this stage, both cars will be ready by the end of second week in December. The delay is largely due to the nature of the custom tune that each of these Revo Stage 4 cars now runs. In addition, TEFF's car is being treated to a cosmetic make-over as well, so neither car is available for display for a little while yet . Thanks for your interest and patience. And yes, if you are wondering, one can easily exceed 300awkw on 98 Octane with these cars
Cheers, Simon
Ah crap i was getting happy thinking both cars would be ready. hope no drama comes up for you guys and it all works well.

Waiting impatiently
+1

mpanza

20-11-2011, 11:27 AM

is this a joke? Hahah that is a serious golf R!

Nice job

Rudy-R

20-11-2011, 03:18 PM

All good. Dyno tuning a Stage 4 car, with all of the attention that needs to be applied to fuelling esp when above 7500rpm is a dyno-intensive and hence relatively costly process.
The car remains a daily driver, and is limited to just 16psi until the pending arrival of the last piece of the equation; REVO UK has developed a CAI specific for these vehicles, and although i am yet to clap eyes on it, I'm told that it will help the engine breathe better all the way to 600BHP and beyond. I'm not there yet, but TEFF is :)

So, whenever the new CAI is installed, there will be further Dyno runs. I've waited almost 11 months to get to arrive at this point, and am determined to get it right.

In case anyone needs proof that you can still drive a 325awkw Golf in a civil manner around town, I decided to take a couple of pics of my car in Melbourne's glorious sunshine after yesterday's miserable rain.
Here's one of them....
:)
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb440/Rudy-R/RYGRightrear20Nov.jpg

Rob32R

20-11-2011, 10:45 PM

Such an Insane machine Simon :). Keep it up, I can't wait to see what's next.

BenR

21-11-2011, 02:11 PM

Following with interest

Jig

21-11-2011, 03:36 PM

Up, Up and away...

Rudy-R

23-11-2011, 06:31 PM

Alright. Very soon, I am informed, my car returns to the care of Raymond at Audvolks for (hopefully) it's last mechanical work. There is a full sized GTX3071 being crammed in, so i hope it all fits :)

In the mean-time, my R has started a diet. In one day, it lost an enormous amount by removing the front seats, complete with numerous electric motors. These old pews have been replaced by these....

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb440/Rudy-R/RYGRECAROseatsfromdriversside.jpg

By the way, my seats are nothing on those that TEFF is currently installing!
Keep watching. We are getting close to the finish line!

Rob32R

23-11-2011, 08:15 PM

Nice update Simon, your Golf R just keeps getting better. Awesome seats it reminds of AP's Recaro Pole Positions in his R36 Golf :).

Rudy-R

23-11-2011, 08:27 PM

Unfortunately, i did not fit comfortably in the Pole positions. The PP's were like Sportster CS - just a little too accomodating!
I saved a further 5kg per seat by opting for Recaro SPG. Exactly 10.5kg per side including adjustable runners.
Initially i planned on Recaro SPA at 5.5kg per seat (rather than 6.5kg), but the yellowed Kevlar weave just did not look that good, so in my token consolation to aesthetics, I chose the piano black SPG seats at he last moment.

MasterKevin

24-11-2011, 03:22 PM

so0o0o win !!

Rudy-R

25-11-2011, 05:52 PM

so0o0o win !!
WIN-WIN.

Dave-R and Sammy have asked that I set up a build thread. Short answer is YES, but not till mid January, when I am on leave, and can organise my thoughts / pics etc.
In the meantime, here is an excerpt from a few dialogs posted earlier today, on a different web blog; these replies are to questions posed by "Falcon Killer" and others.
It will be easier for us all if the info relevant to the current tune is in one place, so here goes....

My opening gambit to "Falcon Killer"

Hi Dario,
I'm pleased that you are finally getting things sorted. In speaking with CPC the other day regarding a completetly unrelated matter, i wondered, without asking, whether they were going to offer you therir new tune from HPA, whick apparently IS specific for BW EFI turbo's!
Personally, I would be disappointed with 240awkw from a built motor. These 2.0 TFSI are capable of so much more. Dont take this as an invitation to write me a 100 PM's (I dont have time to answer them all, seriously), but I can tell you outright that even an APR tuned motor with a bog standard 2871R can produce 257awkw at all 4 wheels.

For a short time only, I have been essentially running a hybridised 2871R comp cover AR 0.6 + GT25 turbine cover 0.64 with a GT3071CHRA (ie comp cover milled to +1mm), and have dynod a max output of 325awkw. I don't yet know what a full GTX3071R will do in our cars, but will find out for sure by the 14th December, when I am assured all will be finished. Stefan (TEFF, Romania), is running a Precision turbo with an enormous output of just on or over 600BHP. By my calculations that is near enough to 360awkw, or in your terms, 150% of the SAS tune.

I've also learnt the hard way, as has Stefan. NEVER change your motor or gearbox simultaneously. Stefan and I experienced similar problems with slippage, as did GH in Brisbane. i do not have an explanation for this, but am pleased that the custom HPA Stage 4 software has produced a rock solid DSG capable of 850+NM. Fortunately my slippage issues resolved after 1500km, but Stefan's did not, and the next step up was around 6000euro. Yes, that is roughly the cost of the HGP clutch (AP has one, I think). Probably the gold standard for our cars.

Dario, I do not know what you have been advised, but anything north of 260awkw in this motor, you will very likely snap either a conrod, or a valve.

if you still aspire to achieve beyond 300awkw, please think seriously about replacing at least your rods with forged components. Not cheap, but consider it to be insurance. if you snap a rod, I would be very surprised if VWA will bale you out again.

Quote from Dario:

hi simon 240kw is a shit result , the tune has been done, but not finished! and also the motor is stock internally not built but will be soon .
with your 3071 hybrid whats your spool like .and boost pressure up top .

My reply:

1. 240awkw is better than you will do from most KO4 tunes. Still good, just not optimal for 2871 or 3071. The EFR's look good, but it's a new product, with limited track record in an FSI motor, so I really don't know what 'ideal' looks like for you....
2.With Turbine A/R 0.64, spools at 2400. Enormous accelerative G from 3200. Max RPM is 8100, but fueling is a problem from 7500. Still a work in progress.
3. Boost: tune limited to 16psi at moment. Stepwise change only, commencing at 9psi after DSG finally working in September. Awaiting definitive tune from the UK in coming weeks, but only after I have sorted out the new turbo and replacement CAI. The plan is to have Peak boost at 32-36psi in the final tune. Will know more once dyno work completed in December

Parso's (Mark) response

I was going to call BS on Rudy's 325 kW atw claim as I thought it would be beyond the capabilities of the turbo but a quick look at the Garrett sites backs it up. Impressive as I've usually thought of that region being 3582R territory, well that's comfortably anyway.Nice work.

I will most likely go the 3071GTX or BW EFR route next year and yes the internals things bothers me still. Initially while playing with this other stuff I'd like to sit below the limit of the rods being an issue and I sure as hell wont run a laggy old school GT28 POS either so maybe for usable response the smaller EFR is the better option here.
Other things I will investigate is getting a second long motor built up to throw in, I've done this before with other cars and works really well, when your finished you throw the stocker back in, nice and simple. All of this relies on me finding a decent place here that can offer that option. I don't have much faith in Engine builders here in Oz call it twice bitten twice shy plus I see many failures in customer cars with relatively lowish after build Kms. It might be possible to get prebuilt short or long motors from the US and its being investigated by another place here. If anyone has any ideas or knows of some rebuilders that take pride in their work let me know. Europe could be worth exploring too

Mark

My reply:

Thanks for your validation, Mark. I have been really impressed with the Garrett turbo's performance in this motor to date. The limit will probably be around 350awkw, but one never knows.....

I for one did not want to poke a hole thru my block with a bent rod. I was advised, perhaps erroneously that even 257awkw was too much for stock rods in a sustained run. The original tuning company made me sign an indemnity waver when I specified the high RPM file (to allow the engine to rev from 6600 to 7100), as they were indeed fearful of a catastrophic result. Hence my quest to make a rock-solid motor.....

My motor has been a bit of an experiment to date, and apart from a few red herrings introduced by a certain fellow in QLD (regarding CR; I was ill-advised to use 10.5:1 compression ratio initially, so still have unused JE forged pistons in a a box at $800!). I looked at all options too, but the least palatable option was buying a certain stage 4 tune with a new motor at AUD 40k. If this same person could not work out the correct CR for a built motor, what hope would this motor have in the future??

Integrated Engineering recently released a race-prepped, stroked, short block 1.8T, but there were no plans to release a built short or long block 2.0TFSI motor in the foreseeable future, and they were unable to offer me a one-off build either. The stage 4 motors trickling out of Arkansas (or wherever) are based on the early GTI EA113 otor, which from memory were the BPA (or BPY variant). It's in my archives, somewhere...
In any case, these blocks are well built, and would provide a great foundation for a future project, for low$.

Shipping in a brand new long or short motor from Germany via Schenker international also looked like a reasonable option; total cost of shipping a long block, exclusive of tax would have been 8500Euro. The AUD/Euro changed pretty quickly, so now it would probably be a 20K proposition....

Competition motors are also available in Europe (C2), but upon a brief enquiry, were of limited availability, and expensive, so I have no exact figures for you.

Regards

Simon

Dario's reply

sounds like a very strong combo 32 to 36psi what fuel are you going to run with that high boost pressure .also who's the tuner in the uk .
i have one question for you, what boost up top did you get with your 2871 .64

My reply to Dario

1. The key to running higher boost than stock is a detonation free motor. ARP head studs hold it all together.
2. All my runs to date are on Vortex 98. Once the motor is complete, I will experiment with VP109, or even Perfo 105. Allegedly, this latter fuel produced the best output for that motor in QLD. There is no doubt that slower burning, higher octane fuels will reduce risk of detonation. The limit really is the RS4 injectors, though (it doesn't matter how good your pressure rail valve is unless the injectors can utilise the fuel.
3. REVO technik. I have a custom tune (there are two cars running a version of this tune, with the best output to date being 360awkw at all 4 wheels). A custom tune at this level of performance is mandatory. My car has spent AUD2000 on the dyno so far maximising the tune for my car - still a daily driver. Haven't finished yet. Parso (Mark) seems to know his stuff - why did you not go with him?
4. Boost with 2871-0.64 was 24-25psi max. The stock DV is the limiter.

Response from Dave-R (reiterated by Sammy)

Some quality info there Simon from the extensive (and expensive) trial and error you've gone through dealing with some so called experts!

Really should get a proper build thread going.

My reply:

I am no expert. I merely set an objective, and found out pretty early on that no one from '3L' was really that willing to pass on information. It could be that they truly did not know, but having moved across to the REVO camp, it became immediately clear that there actually is a wealth of information on improving these cars. Not only that, I was not faced with the daily threat that "you are going to blow this motor up by adjusting the perfectly good Stage 3 tuned engine". Seriously, I quaked in fear every time i saw DC at VP, because he was confident that this motor could not handle it. That's past history, but a part of me wonders what might happen if I actually do push the envelope too far....

So, to write a build thread?

Yes, but not now, for the following reasons.
1. I am time poor. Some of you know what I do, and that, believe it or not is most of my working day.
2. I do not like tire kickers, any more than I like trolls, trolling, or meaningless comments.
3. IF, I were to ever write a build-post, the presence of trolling and inane comments would not be welcome.
4. All of the important build pics are still somewhere in Burwood....
5. I have promised Stefan (TEFF) that we will publish our cars together, as we started at a similar time.
6. Mid January, I would see this as a likely time for me to construct a post, when the car will have definitely completed its data logging, dyno logging, and preliminary track work.

Thanks for your interest, though.

Cheers

Simon

Sammy

25-11-2011, 06:18 PM

Interesting Simon,

with my build, i'm using 9.5:1 compression, i could go lower to 9:1 but i'll save overboring the block for the next build. I'm just working out what turbocharger i'll run but it will support 480-500hp without too much trouble.

Rudy-R

25-11-2011, 06:29 PM

Hi Sam,
There is indeed plenty of width in our VW blocks to allow safe boring to 83.5mm. Like you, I'm saving that option for the moment when I have no choice.
HPA are currently establishing a tune specific for EFR (quick spooling) turbos. I am very happy with Garrett, and REVO have at leat done their homework to make installing the Garrett GTX3071R a reasonably straightforward process. The expense really starts to kick in when you install intake manifolds with larger plenums, different coil packs, plugs, etc.
IMO, getting to 500BHP is relatively easy. It's the gap to 600-650BHP that REALLY costs time and money....
Cheers

Simon

TEFF

27-11-2011, 02:34 AM

Hello guys

As Simon said, my car is almost ready. The tweaks lasted so much because i wanted to be perfect and run like OEM, without hesitation, without boost fluctuations. Next week the car will go to an upholstery shop to receive not 1, not 2, but 4 Recaro Sportster CS seats. I will remove my current interior, and make something special :D. When the time is right i will make a daily journal with interior work progress.

I would like to thanks Simon(Rudy-R) for his advices regarding the car, i've learned some precious things from him. Indeed the gap beetween 600-650HP is very hard to achieve, it requires a very complex work from Revo. My plan for Spring is: 650-700HP. I will try to reach 700HP.

So, keep an eye on this thread because awesome things will come :D

TEFF

28-11-2011, 04:26 AM

A little hint to what will happen inside:
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/cfb01f51.jpg

All speakers will be MicroPrecision Z Studio

Nabsta

28-11-2011, 06:23 PM

Hey Stefan, how much modding of front bar, etc needed to be done to fit the phat Kerscher fenders? What about the arch liners, do they still fit? I'm seriously looking at them to partly solve my front rubbing issues but also to have a phat front if I wanna go phatter wheels...

Absolutely awesome machine man, btw...

TEFF

28-11-2011, 10:28 PM

Thanks Nabsta.
The Kerscher fenders were a straight fit, and they also come with extensions for arch liner. So they were easy fit :D

Nabsta

28-11-2011, 11:34 PM

Thanks Nabsta.
The Kerscher fenders were a straight fit, and they also come with extensions for arch liner. So they were easy fit :D

The instructions on the PDF were in German and the pics were lousy so it wasn't clear. I'm just trying to copy you some more! lol

Lovin' the Maniacs BTW and now I have the throttle controller it's more furious changes to keep in the zone so they're getting used more... lol

Tarmac

28-11-2011, 11:51 PM

TEFF i am going to have to get you banned from this website. Sorry, your making the rest of us spend too much money :)

TEFF

29-11-2011, 01:48 AM

Nabsta, i have some pictures, on first page of thread, with the Kerscher guard installation, an one with their extensions for arch liner. I hope it help.

Tarmac: :D Unfortunately until next week i won't be able to post any new pictures. But then i will start my interior job journal. Today i've made the plan, it's gonna be something awesome, lightweight materials are used :D
I will try to make a video with the car from outside and inside :D

scotty1991

29-11-2011, 02:12 AM

Wow! That is an amazing R

Rudy-R

01-12-2011, 09:02 PM

GBJ-R32

01-12-2011, 11:36 PM

shit just got big!
i like alot

TEFF

02-12-2011, 12:06 AM

That thing is huuuuuge :D

Winter mode: ON

Unfortunately looks like ET42 it's at limit on the rear, now i have 225 tires, but when i will put 245 R888 for sure it will rub and stick even more outside of the fender.

So i've decided to order another set of TD, 18x9J ET35 (front) & ET50 (rear), and keep the current TD just for winter

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/d072660a.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/7b05fb92.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/6b4a0efd.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/c2d22117.jpg
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/805e095d.jpg

abang

02-12-2011, 04:27 AM

Are you serious with this? Bloody awesome speakers, I have listened to this several times and they are just amazing.

A little hint to what will happen inside:
http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/stefandragnea/cfb01f51.jpg

All speakers will be MicroPrecision Z Studio