Test drove the Golf R today!

[S&H]

I am in Singapore right now and test drove the Golf R at the Singapore VW dealership this arvo.

Power delivery is pretty close to linear, there is no lag I could detect (either in Drive or Sport mode). The 4motion system puts down the power very well and acceleration is quick to 100 even with 5 people in the car. Tested the car in Comfort and Sport modes (for ACC). Sport mode still isn't as hard as the suspension on my Pirelli.

It is a whole lot (2-3 notches) better than the MkVI GTI IMO - the visceral nature of the MkV - missing in the MkVI is there in the R!! As a matter of fact, it feels a lot like my Pirelli but w/o the lag. Perhaps because, it uses the same engine as the Pirelli (albiet tuned for more power).

The R's exhaust sounds like that of the Pirelli but is few db louder and meaner (perhaps to assuage concerns of the V6/R32 crowd). I could hear and feel it in the car (just like I do in my Pirelli but louder). While the exhaust note isn't as nice as the V6 in R32, it still sounds pretty sexy. What it has lost in the exhaust note to the R32, it has made it up in the performance stakes. The car feels as nimble as a GTI.

I wasn't expecting much from the R, going from my experience with the MkVI GTI at the VW track day, but the R has really surprised me. It may tempt me to trade in the Pirelli....that is if I can get over the it's plain jane/lacklustre looks. That is the only place now where the MKV GTI still beats it (by a mile).

P.S. Also test drove the Scirrocco while I was there, the 2010 model now uses the EA888 engine of the MKVI GTI, so don't expect the same excitement as the 2009 model (with the MKV GTI engine). Rear seat space was pretty cramped and boot space (while deep) isn't very practical. The boot lid can only be opened from within the cabin or using your remote.

[Lima]

Nice work! :cool:

[MasterKevin]

lucky man :P i wanna test drive one also just for the sake of it :D

[chris32]

Jealous.

[R32Perth]

Your review has stired some interest in me for the R, thanks....

[Capercat]

Is the EA888 engine the same for the MK5 Pirelli & MK6 R?

What engine's in the MK6 GTI & what is the differences?

[S&H]

Is the EA888 engine the same for the MK5 Pirelli & MK6 R?

What engine's in the MK6 GTI & what is the differences?



The Pirelli and Mk6 R uses the EA113 engine of the S3 (with slight differences) coupled with the 6 spd DSG (wet clutch pack) . While the MK6 GTI uses the EA888 engine with the same 6sp DSG.

The Car and Driver review of the R explains why the difference in engines for the R and Mk6 GTI here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/10q1/2010_volkswagen_golf_r-first_drive_review

It also mentions that you cannot fully turn off ESP in the R (however from the article VW is able to do so by fiddling with the electronics - VAGCOM to the rescue?). And the DSG smarts upshifting in Manual mode at redline. So this limits the R's potential as a club racer.

The new R is certainly a tempting proposition now pending pricing. It is certainly what the MK6 GTI ought to have been. Perhaps (and I am just speculating here) with some mods a MK6 GTI could be made to feel like the R/MKV - perhaps all the MK6 GTI needs (to be made to feel as exciting to drive as the MKV) is an exhaust upgrade....or...it still needs the older EA113 engine.

And I am still not convinced with the benefits of ACC (from a performance vs cost POV) either. It might be more cost effective and better to go with the standard factory suspension and upgrade to a set of aftermarket shocks.

[Justin Fox]

Nice! You lucky guy! So do you think it can spin all 4 wheels or is it retarded?

[S&H]

Nice! You lucky guy! So do you think it can spin all 4 wheels or is it retarded?

I didn't try with the salesguy in the car ..so I can't answer that question unfortunately. :D

[nath_mk6]

The Mk6 GTI has the same wet 6 speed DSG as the R the 7 Speed DSG is only in the lower end models as it cannot handle the higher torque of the GTI. As for the rest the mk6 has the newer engine yea and a smaller turbo as compared to the mk5 and still produces more power. Refinement in materials and soundproofing etc has seen a reduction in cabin noise ove the mk5 however the feel of the car is more planted than a mk5 which may be where people feel it is less 'exciting' than the older car. As for the R from what I have read the main reasons behind using the older engine and retuning beyond the pirelli was to ensure reliability, due to the age of the engine the VW techs were fully aware of the limitations of the engine however the newer 888 engine has not been pushed to those extremes as of yet but with simple stg1 tuning can be modded to almost match the performance of the R for significantly less $$. Thus being said you can't go past the AWD for twisties!

For me the mk6 has a much more luxurious feel to it through the interior styling and choice of materials used over the mk5 and I agree that the noise produced in cabin by the mk5 does add to the experience but I do prefer the overall feel of the mk6 but this may be due to driving this more than I have the 5. In the end they're all great cars and u can't wait to test the R as well but still think for the money the GTI is the best bang for buck.

Just my 2 cents

[Capercat]

Nice! You lucky guy! So do you think it can spin all 4 wheels or is it retarded?

Considering you can't spin all 4 wheels on a 911 turbo, would be cool to achieve this in the R.

[Byza]

all this talk of the R and the driving experience and no pictures!!!!

[S&H]

The Mk6 GTI has the same wet 6 speed DSG as the R the 7 Speed DSG is only in the lower end models as it cannot handle the higher torque of the GTI. As for the rest the mk6 has the newer engine yea and a smaller turbo as compared to the mk5 and still produces more power. Refinement in materials and soundproofing etc has seen a reduction in cabin noise ove the mk5 however the feel of the car is more planted than a mk5 which may be where people feel it is less 'exciting' than the older car. As for the R from what I have read the main reasons behind using the older engine and retuning beyond the pirelli was to ensure reliability, due to the age of the engine the VW techs were fully aware of the limitations of the engine however the newer 888 engine has not been pushed to those extremes as of yet but with simple stg1 tuning can be modded to almost match the performance of the R for significantly less $$. Thus being said you can't go past the AWD for twisties!

For me the mk6 has a much more luxurious feel to it through the interior styling and choice of materials used over the mk5 and I agree that the noise produced in cabin by the mk5 does add to the experience but I do prefer the overall feel of the mk6 but this may be due to driving this more than I have the 5. In the end they're all great cars and u can't wait to test the R as well but still think for the money the GTI is the best bang for buck.

Just my 2 cents

Thanks Nath, I will correct the misinformation in my other post. The GTI experience IMO is what these cars are about. Once you start diluting the experience (remember the Mk3 and Mk4 GTIs) with electronic controls and luxury car refinement (as with the mkVI), then you might as well buy a totally different car.

Another aspect of the MK6 interior I didn't feel is an improvement (my wife was first to comment on it actually), is that the new steering wheel buttons aren't as inituitive as the MKV's. It takes longer to figure out what they do on the MK6 than they do on the MK5. But I guess with time one will learn what the buttons do. But for someone who isn't new to the car, there is a slight learning curve.

Otherwise, the changes in the interior between the two cars are minimal from a ergonomic POV. I still prefer the simple and austere looks of the MKV myself - I feel it (over time) won't age as fast as the (currently) fashionable dash of the MKVI.

[Cam]

Wow thats great!
Congrats on the test drive.
:)

Nice review too.
I've been watching a lot of vids of the new R and the exhaust note is still nice, as you say nothing compared to the r32 but its an angrier version of the GTI
;)

[S&H]

all this talk of the R and the driving experience and no pictures!!!!

Unfortunately no pics as I didn't have my proper camera with me. I did try to use my wife's mobile phone's 2.1 megapixel camera but the pics I took were blurry and crap - not worth posting them actually. There are none of me driving me the car as didn't want to give the salesperson the impression that I was only there on a lark.:lol:

My friend who was with me also took it for a spin and he is now thinking of getting a VW. He can't justify the R's current $180K price tag in Sg - so be thankful that we are able to own and drive these wonderful cars.

[10d]

Well, even with the LCT I'm still grateful :)
Nice review, S!

[Capercat]

Thanks guys, the above posts have cleared up some things. Not haven driven the R as yet, I tend to agree with Shannon regarding after market suspension in the R.

I just can't see VW factory suspension matching the likes of those brands we are familiar with. My plan is to buy a second hand Pirelli and flash the ECU with APR & add small H&R sways, maybe keep the OEM suspension for comfort reasons as it will be my DD.

I'm not too fussed with AWD for the twisties coz I have a RWD/LSD equipped Porsche to take care of those occasions. Also the Pirelli only came out in DSG so this suites me fine as a DD. Looks like no R for me, I can't justify paying an extra 30K just for AWD (from second hand relli), well in my circumstance anyhow.

[Justin Fox]

I didn't try with the salesguy in the car ..so I can't answer that question unfortunately. :D

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Capercat]

Otherwise, the changes in the interior between the two cars are minimal from a ergonomic POV. I still prefer the simple and austere looks of the MKV myself - I feel it (over time) won't age as fast as the (currently) fashionable dash of the MKVI.

Agree, I've been visiting my local VW dealer pretending to buy a MKVI GTI haha, with the intention of sussing out the interior.

The MK6 interior is to round compared to the MK5, reminiscent of Japanese interiors. The MK5 is very German, yes austere haha.

Although I am bias as the below photo was from my MK5 GTI

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6458/mk6interiorbling.jpg

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/7035/img0167m.jpg

[stevie]

Nice review mate, can't wait to test drive one myself.

One thing I prefer on the MK5 over the MK6 are the blue dash lights :)

[S&H]

Nice review mate, can't wait to test drive one myself.

One thing I prefer on the MK5 over the MK6 are the blue dash lights :)

Yes me too and not to mention the amber coloured MFD.

[Lima]

Nice! You lucky guy! So do you think it can spin all 4 wheels or is it retarded?

I've tried it in my S3 with ASR and ESP switched off and the ability to get wheel spin from a standing start is not helped by a 4000rpm rev limiter when trying to do so, haha. However, on a wet or dirt road you can certainly get some nice tail sliding action if you try hard enough. :p

In regards to fully switching off ESP, I'm not sure if the R is the same as the S3, but my car has a two stage process. Press the ESP button briefly and it turns off ASR (traction control), hold the button longer and the ESP is switched off (supposedly). I can't say for certain if the ESP is fully off, but after taking my car on a skid pan (http://www.liam27.com/audi/S3-skidpan-02.gif) it certainly felt like it was totally off!

[Lima]

One thing I prefer on the MK5 over the MK6 are the blue dash lights :)

That's about the only thing for me. I reckon the manual feels nicer in the Mk6 and on other forums, at least, I'm well known for my views on the Mk6's looks over the Mk5. After a couple of local test drives and attending the Driving Academy thingo at Eastern Creek last year I think it's pretty clear the Mk6 is a better car. Not by lots, but its still better.

The Mk5 is still a very nice looking car, but IMO the Mk6 with its sharper shoulder line, especially, has made a great improvement on what was already a great starting point.

Anyone who reckons the Mk6 is dulled by electronic aids in comparison to a Mk5 needs to go for a drive in a Mk1 or Mk2 GTI to see what a load of bollocks that is, haha.

[stevie]

Cool GIF you got there Liam. The MK6 shape is definitely growing on me

[M4RK0]

It's sooooo awesome Shannon, you are maybe the first to sit your ass in an R!!!

So the engine, is or not the S3?, in other forums are different opinions,

1.- S3 Engine = Pirelli and R
2.- S3 Engine = R with more power

So?, based on Nath's info the other day I thing is the second right?

Cheers!

[Capercat]

S3 Engine = Pirelli & R. (less power in both Pirelli & R)

ECU flash will fix that no doubt.

[M4RK0]

Thanks Roc,

So, basically it's the body the differece?,

Is then the Pirelli the best GTI?,

Cheers!

[Lima]

This is my understanding of the engine range for the GTI, Pirelli, R and S3.

We need to start with the 147kW/280Nm Mk5 GTI as the base because the others pretty much stem from that. The S3 has a larger turbo (K04), a few stronger internals, larger intercooler and the like. The Pirelli uses the same turbo as the S3, but doesn’t share the same intercooler and I’m not sure if the internals have been strengthened. The R uses the same engine as the S3.

There is confusion as to power outputs for the S3 and R because Australia is designated as a hot weather climate by VAG so the engines get detuned slightly. Also adding to the confusion are the figures published for the R when it was revealed in Frankfurt last year.

In Europe S3 = 195kW / 350Nm
In Australia S3 = 188kW / 330Nm

In Europe R = 199kW / 350Nm
In Australia R = 188kW /330Nm

At least that’s what the spec sheets say.

From memory the new 2.0T in the Mk6 GTI has tweaked valve operation, probably a revised turbo and ECU tune. I guess it's just a mild rework of the Mk5 GTI engine, but significant enough to be given its own designation. In the end its published figures are 155kW/280Nm.

[AP]

It's funny how they reduce the power by 10kw, but who ever buys one is going to flash it anyway.. So much for the climate issues..

[nath_mk6]

Also the mk6 has a smaller turbo than the mk5 or so I've been told by Derek from EA.

[Lima]

It's funny how they reduce the power by 10kw, but who ever buys one is going to flash it anyway.. So much for the climate issues..

TTS doesn't get detuned either - 200kW here and abroad - go figure.

[M4RK0]

It's funny how they reduce the power by 10kw, but who ever buys one is going to flash it anyway.. So much for the climate issues..

Sounds like a perfect circle of consumption, 80% of people with an R will want those 10Kw's back on way or the other...

Hey Frenchie! you can get them back with a Capristo eh?

[M4RK0]

This is my understanding of the engine range for the GTI, Pirelli, R and S3.

We need to start with the 147kW/280Nm Mk5 GTI as the base because the others pretty much stem from that. The S3 has a larger turbo (K04), a few stronger internals, larger intercooler and the like. The Pirelli uses the same turbo as the S3, but doesn’t share the same intercooler and I’m not sure if the internals have been strengthened. The R uses the same engine as the S3.

There is confusion as to power outputs for the S3 and R because Australia is designated as a hot weather climate by VAG so the engines get detuned slightly. Also adding to the confusion are the figures published for the R when it was revealed in Frankfurt last year.

In Europe S3 = 195kW / 350Nm
In Australia S3 = 188kW / 330Nm

In Europe R = 199kW / 350Nm
In Australia R = 188kW /330Nm

At least that’s what the spec sheets say.

From memory the new 2.0T in the Mk6 GTI has tweaked valve operation, probably a revised turbo and ECU tune. I guess it's just a mild rework of the Mk5 GTI engine, but significant enough to be given its own designation. In the end its published figures are 155kW/280Nm.

Thanks for clarify Lima!

[zz2]

i have made up my mind that my next car will be a candy white golf R with the 19inch black rims.

it will be bad ass :cool:

[Capercat]

TTS doesn't get detuned either - 200kW here and abroad - go figure.

Does it come down to marketing then? The TTS must have a secrete fan cooling the radiator. haha

[damov]

seems every one is stinging for a test drive in the new R
the question is. How will drive it without a sales man in the car to really let us all now what its really like ?
That person needs to have owned an r32 for the full rap on things i belive .

[GBJ-R32]

well just tell the sales man that
1) your going to thrash it for the nxt 5 mins
2) sit back and let me do my comparison or otherwise i wont buy it
3) just test it out remember you get the fine not them if you get pulled over so they shouldnt mind

[Paolo]

i don't think you can get an mk6 to look as good as an mk5 such as 10d's its just to sharp to make it look that good, especially the r as good of a car it is, still looks plain az

btw Not sure why you didn't feel turbo lag thou thats strange

[onpole01]

Awesome review S&H, and you have confirmed my hopes for the fun factor of this car. That's also an awesome scoop for the forum too mate, well done!

I test drove the MKVI and as a comparo to my chipped MKV the MKVI feels very sluggish-now of course it will as it wasn't chipped but the question would be why would I spend 49K drive away with no options (except DSG) for a car that under performs next to my current model-or why would I even buy a MKVI then flash it-i am even worse off in this scenario due to the additional cost of the chip.

For me it's economics and performance-my MKV is probably worth as a trade-in 25K, maybe privately 30K if I am lucky-then spend another approx 25K to buy a lesser performing car? If I am to spend the money then the performance also has to improve, not stabilise or diminish. This is where i am so confused about the standard MKVI, it's just such a mild evolution of the MKV. I think it's a great car...if you haven't already owned a MKV. That being said if the R is cost prohibitive then I'll get a MKVI but in about 3 years when they are worth about 25K, and mod it of course!

Hence my immense like for the R, more power, even more when chipped,AWD, etc and fingers crossed only marginally more expensive than the standard MKVI-more confusion...why only have this car slightly more expensive. It's almost like the R is less 'R for racing' and more the 'go fast' version of the MKVI at a slightly higher price. However all of my theory will come crashing down if the R is priced at 65K+ drive away and if so...mm the S3,, now I'm even more confused.

Either way my lease runs out in Jan 2011 and looking forward to the next purchase!

[10d]

i don't think you can get an mk6 to look as good as an mk5 such as 10d's its just to sharp to make it look that good, especially the r as good of a car it is, still looks plain az

btw Not sure why you didn't feel turbo lag thou thats strange

Hahahaha. Thanks P!
I'm actually getting a Golf R (bought some mods for it already, hehe) but keeping the MkV too.

[S&H]

It seems my opinions regarding the MK6 GTI (here and on the other forums) has put some people's noses out of joint. I don't apologise for being frank with my opinions as I would hope that others are equally honest of their opinions with products they have tried/tested.

What is the point of posting an opinion/review if I have to tailor it so that I don't upset certain parties? The opinion/review would then not be worth posting.

I continue to receive "flak" from a certain person on this forum for unknown reasons. They actually don't own a MkVI GTI but MkVs. I can only speculate that they have some vested interest to protect as I suspect they appear to have close links with the automotive trade.

Like it or loathe it, I don't think the MK6 GTI is as good "in the fun department" as the MKV is. Whether this is caused by the electronic aids or a different engine, I can only speculate... but I have felt the difference driving both cars. The MK6 maybe more refined, better put together, but all this is worth nothing if the "GTI experience" is diminished. My 2 cents only - you are free to form your own opinions - just don't take things personally.

[10d]

That's correct, S! You don't have to put up with people who haven't even driven the R yet.
As the thread said : "Test drove the Golf R today!" by S&H. Even if your opinion is subjective, it is your test drive.

For the fun department, a +250kw at the wheels upgrade would be suffice to lift it from limp status to beast :)

[nath_mk6]

Hahahaha. Thanks P!
I'm actually getting a Golf R (bought some mods for it already, hehe) but keeping the MkV too.

What no Rocco for 10d? Or are you going to have a set of 3 all CF CW? >D

[10d]

What no Rocco for 10d? Or are you going to have a set of 3 all CF CW? >D

Nah, did my calculation, Rocco too expensive to be made to a 4WD :)

[nath_mk6]

Fair call, so a two CW garage hey 10d, sounds sweet >D

On the differences thing that was being discussed it does appear that the mkv and mkvi have different turbos, something to do with the compression ratio differences between the two engines.

Anyway they're all great cars IMO, drive em and love em people.....

[Paolo]

Hahahaha. Thanks P!
I'm actually getting a Golf R (bought some mods for it already, hehe) but keeping the MkV too.

two k04s in the garage! you lucky bum! whats the plans for the R?

[random]

Interesting read by S&H and car&driver as well.

Personally, i don't think it is worth it... but it depends on the price. I think the base one would be at least 60-65k and fully optioned pushing 70k.

The mk6 look is uh ok... but different people have different views, i guess it all comes down to the drive, when they actually arrive in australia.

[S&H]

It's sooooo awesome Shannon, you are maybe the first to sit your ass in an R!!!
Cheers!

No Marco, SammyR32 is the first guy on the forum to do so. He test drove the R in Feb (in NZ)!

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?204-Golf-R-Test-drive-Auckland-NZ

[Lima]

It seems my opinions regarding the MK6 GTI (here and on the other forums) has put some people's noses out of joint. I don't apologise for being frank with my opinions as I would hope that others are equally honest of their opinions with products they have tried/tested.

What is the point of posting an opinion/review if I have to tailor it so that I don't upset certain parties? The opinion/review would then not be worth posting.

I continue to receive "flak" from a certain person on this forum for unknown reasons. They actually don't own a MkVI GTI but MkVs. I can only speculate that they have some vested interest to protect as I suspect they appear to have close links with the automotive trade.

Like it or loathe it, I don't think the MK6 GTI is as good "in the fun department" as the MKV is. Whether this is caused by the electronic aids or a different engine, I can only speculate... but I have felt the difference driving both cars. The MK6 maybe more refined, better put together, but all this is worth nothing if the "GTI experience" is diminished. My 2 cents only - you are free to form your own opinions - just don't take things personally.

"Flak" haha, that's cute...

Send me an email (now I've worked out who you are) and we can discuss this further if you like. Especially if you think I have some sort of vendetta against you, because I don't. Nor do I have any interests to protect, I'll give you points for adding 1+1 and getting 5 though, haha.

My nose is not out of joint, I am, just as you are, expressing an opinion ... why should I "have to tailor it so that I don't upset certain parties"? There's more I could add, especially given your comments towards me and Audi drivers elsewhere, but here is probably not the place to air that dirty laundry. As I said, send me an email so we can bury this imaginary hatchet you seem to have created.

Cheers
Liam

[S&H]

"Flak" haha, that's cute...

Send me an email (now I've worked out who you are) and we can discuss this further if you like. Especially if you think I have some sort of vendetta against you, because I don't. Nor do I have any interests to protect, I'll give you points for adding 1+1 and getting 5 though, haha.

My nose is not out of joint, I am, just as you are, expressing an opinion ... why should I "have to tailor it so that I don't upset certain parties"? There's more I could add, especially given your comments towards me and Audi drivers elsewhere, but here is probably not the place to air that dirty laundry. As I said, send me an email so we can bury this imaginary hatchet you seem to have created.

Cheers
Liam

I could dredge up several instances of sacastic jibes/disparing remarks on the other forums thrown at me by you but I won't bother and didn't imagine them. I didn't start this shit - you did - so don't go acting all innocent like.

I have only repeated what JC has stated on TGUK what he thinks of Audi drivers - an opinion that I cannot disagree with at this stage. And that was posted only after an offensive stab you took at me.

So touche!

If you want to settle things, YOU email me.

[chewy7]

i have made up my mind that my next car will be a candy white golf R with the 19inch black rims.

it will be bad ass :cool:

Awesome! See what the pricing is like....Should be a ripper of a car :)

[Lima]

Shannon, it's a two way street and I certainly can't recall starting "this shit", or whatever you think this apparent situation is. It would appear you consider it to be way more out of hand than I have warranted, so let's just move forward -- happy to bury any hatchet that exists, but please don't take my comments so seriously. Even when I make an offer of peace you still make a thinly veiled insult towards me. C'mon dude, lighten up a bit, go on, it won't hurt you, I promise, haha. Deep breath, 1, 2, 3, exhale...

It would appear you (and possibly others, I'm not sure) take some of my comments made on forums with much more gravity and seriousness than I ever intend them to be taken. I'm still not really sure what I've said in this thread that fired you up, but anyway that's beside the point now. I'm on forums like this for a bit of fun and clowning around, as I'm sure you are too.

:)

Cheers
Liam

[R32Perth]

How about a bout of UFC for Shannon and Liam to bury the hatchet.....lol

[Lima]

Float like a bee, sting like a butterfly. :lol:

http://www.markpascua.com/wp-content/boxing-grannies.jpg

[nath_mk6]

Enough guys if you need to keep going take it offline.

[AP]

Nah, did my calculation, Rocco too expensive to be made to a 4WD :)
Pussy!!!

[AP]

I think it's time for both to grow up!!
Take this else where and don't fill threads with your BS!!!

[10d]

two k04s in the garage! you lucky bum! whats the plans for the R?
APR stage 3 of course. Haha. At least with the 4WD I won't have to fight for traction.

Yes, AP, miaow!

[MasterKevin]

APR Stage 3 yummmm :D

[G-rig]

No Marco, SammyR32 is the first guy on the forum to do so. He test drove the R in Feb (in NZ)!

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?204-Golf-R-Test-drive-Auckland-NZ

A guy in NZ test drove it ages ago on the MKV forum, wasn't overly impressed with it compared to the R32 either.

As nath_mk6 said, they are all good cars and good in different ways. The R still isn't much lighter than the R32 and I personally didn't want to spend that much again this time when the GTI will be good enough most of the time and hard to say if the R is worth the extra.

[S&H]

A guy in NZ test drove it ages ago on the MKV forum, wasn't overly impressed with it compared to the R32 either.

As nath_mk6 said, they are all good cars and good in different ways. The R still isn't much lighter than the R32 and I personally didn't want to spend that much again this time when the GTI will be good enough most of the time and hard to say if the R is worth the extra.

Why did you sell your R32 Greg?
Isn't it sorta like a downgrade to go to the MKVI GTI?

[G-rig]

Why did you sell your R32 Greg?
Isn't it sorta like a downgrade to go to the MKVI GTI?

Got a bit sick of it, mine didn't have many options and while this is a downgrade it's just as good or better for the price.

I don't want to bag it as it was a good car just didn't see the performance for the amount of fuel it used, and awd almost wasn't necessary around town, although whilst good may not have been worth the added weight.

Also wanted somrthing the missus can drive, not that she'll be getting a go anytime soon.

[S&H]

Also wanted somrthing the missus can drive, not that she'll be getting a go anytime soon.

LOL - I'll bet.

Anyway, the R didn't feel heavy when I drove it, even with 4 other people onboard.

[Capercat]

I don't want to bag it as it was a good car just didn't see the performance for the amount of fuel it used,


I think it not being DFI may be the reason.

I average 11.5L/100km with the CS that's spirited driving. Not bad with a tune @ 250kw 3.4L flat-six

I put that down to DFI.

[S&H]

I think it not being DFI may be the reason.

I average 11.5L/100km with the CS that's spirited driving. Not bad with a tune @ 250kw 3.4L flat-six

I put that down to DFI.

What does DFI stand for?

[AP]

I think it's "direct fuel injection" could be wrong!!

[Capercat]

I think it's "direct fuel injection" could be wrong!!

Correct.