Parso's Golf R...

[Parso]

MY11 DSG

No proper pictures yet but I had it on the dyno yesterday just getting some base lines done so I took a few there. The lighting inside really messes with most cameras. I'll post the dynos and logs later tonight. I might even replace the pics at some stage too.


Mod List
Stage 1 tune no hardware




No proper pictures yet but I had it on the dyno yesterday just getting some base lines done. I'll post the dyno s and log up shortly
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/IMG_5107.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/IMG_5116.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/IMG_5117.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/IMG_5112.JPG

:)

[10d]

Is this going to be the quickest Golf R in Australia?

[Parso]

All Runs will be in 4th gear 10kmph/sec ramp rate even though it makes jack difference on the Mainline

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/dyno/Parso_PWR1.bmp

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/dyno/Parso_TS1.bmp

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/dyno/Parso_Derived_Torque.bmp

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/dyno/Parso_Motive.bmp

Now whats missing ??? the initial runs yes.,,, I've stuffed up. I couldn't handle driving the car round in stock form so the following day after picking up the car I flashed a stock hardware tune on it and then began playing with that. Since then its had a stage -1 :rolleyes: tune on it and then back to a stage1 one then its stock file and then stage1 again. With the stock file loaded on the car yesterday after these runs above and no time to adapt, the results were artificially higher than we would normally see due to the boost being is well above stock levels I didn't have time to get things back down so baseline runs will have to wait for another day. I'll post up the logs of this so you can see what I mean
I also can't spell my name :(

[Parso]

Is this going to be the quickest Golf R in Australia?

:lol: I don't think so I'm very very time poor at the moment. I'll leave that to the others. It won't be far behind though

[Parso]

Reserved for logs

[10d]

:lol: I don't think so I'm very very time poor at the moment. I'll leave that to the others. It won't be far behind though

Just tell Goran to back off. :)
Or is he still bringing out the "tree" subject? >D

[Candyman]

What did the AFR drop to mid range ?

Can't quite tell from the chart.

[Parso]

What did the AFR drop to mid range ?

Can't quite tell from the chart.
Forget the red line thats dropping to the 10's. Normally if you see this you'd think the ECU is using its component protection to keep things cool by adding more fuel however in this case I'm sure the dyno sensor is on the way out, I can say this because I was logging AFRs at the time and it was hitting a lambda value of 0.8 or an AFR of 11.8:1. It was a hot day though, I think 33 degrees so the heat really takes its toll. Notice the second fan :)
Actually let me check the logs for the red line run as I was only concerned with the AFRs top end at the time.

[Parso]

Just tell Goran to back off. :)
Or is he still bringing out the "tree" subject? >D

whats trees :) shhhhhhhh............

No Gorans car can't be completed till he either installs the actuator OR he finally admits defeat and brings it back in its current guise for its final file or two. I also have three other cars which need a file for their new hardware.
And then theres some subarus and then finally the others I haven't even got to yet fark !

[Tarmac]

Staying tuned with this. Im hoping Goran figures out how to do the actuator soon as my car is booked in with BPS for the start of Dec. Parso have you looked into the actuator anymore? I expect you would have it on by...what about 4pm?.....today! ;)

[tOnie]

<3 the white VWs

[Parso]

Just double checked the sensor and its dead. These things only last a few months at best as they cop a lot of abuse from the highly modified cars its a consumable item and we have about 5 in stock at anyone time. The VAG stuff as with most Euros have in built wideband sensors so they're really nice to work with most other brands over here do not so we use the dyno probe as a rough indication and then an additional wideband sensor with a 2nd Autronic analyser in the vehicles dump pipe somewhere. Thats why I always tell people to option in an extra bung in their dumps when buying them - it makes my life so much easier ( I can tell Goran will add something here :) )

[fuzion]

abuse! i call abuse :P

[Parso]

Staying tuned with this. Im hoping Goran figures out how to do the actuator soon as my car is booked in with BPS for the start of Dec. Parso have you looked into the actuator anymore? I expect you would have it on by...what about 4pm?.....today! ;)

The problem with the actuator is the labour involved and this then comes back to a cost which the customer has to pay. If you were to say 6 hours labour for a 5 or maybe 10kW gain would that be worth it ?. Or for a similar cost (+ parts) would you just put on a GTX- 3071 and then go to town with all these nancy boys and their K04 setups :) Hmm tough choice I reckon. Its not as simple as that though as you then have to sort fueling and so on but you get the point.
If we can sort it out in say 2~3 hours I reckon its worth it, we'll know soon enough

James will get your car sorted I'm sure he knows what he's doing, just don't buy any Capristo headers off him :lol:

[Parso]

abuse! i call abuse :P
In this case the abuse has mostly been caused by a twin turbo LS3 stroker ute :cool: sounds great too but any S3 or R will kill it in a straight line due to lack of traction - why do they do this ?

[Tarmac]

The problem with the actuator is the labour involved and this then comes back to a cost which the customer has to pay. If you were to say 6 hours labour for a 5 or maybe 10kW gain would that be worth it ?. Or for a similar cost (+ parts) would you just put on a GTX- 3071 and then go to town with all these nancy boys and their K04 setups :) Hmm tough choice I reckon. Its not as simple as that though as you then have to sort fueling and so on but you get the point.
If we can sort it out in say 2~3 hours I reckon its worth it, we'll know soon enough

James will get your car sorted I'm sure he knows what he's doing, just don't buy any Capristo headers off him :lol:

Hopefully with the correct tooling it can be done quicker, guess we will find out soon like you said. At this stage i will probably put all my hardware on minus the actuator and see how i get on. May have to do it later and get james to tweak it. The 3071 is always tempting, just like high class hookers. But once you go down that road the money really starts to burn a hole......

Whats wrong with capristo headers?

PS remembered what you said and ordered my TXS DP today with the extra bung. Will be here next week. :)

[Parso]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxWPGnrCoP0

:) James can fill you in on the rest

[Tarmac]

I think ive missed the boat on this 1. Moving on.

[AP]

Is this going to be the quickest Golf R in Australia?

Nah that be GH...


http://youtu.be/ZfDedC-y_cg

[Parso]

I would think given the engine combo that that car is capable of a lot better than that and I'm sure in time it will do it too. Now as for yours AP I expect another 5 mph terminal speed from your car before the end of the year. :p. You've also got Darios car getting a makeover too . Interesting times for sure but I'll stick with the weener K04 for a little while yet.

[Parso]

Stock Logs
Groups 20,31&115 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnCJJxqJ2HFodDVJTnJKU3hyNzRBTXZWMjQ3bkR3S Wc)
Knock Control, AFR's and Boost

Stock Logs
Groups 230,231and115 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnCJJxqJ2HFodFFsR1VFaE8zWGRFWXR5aHVzWHpSa 1E)
Fuel Pressure and Boost

I have stacks of these and will sort through the most interesting. These logs are all done on the dyno and you'll see the revs dancing around then settle on about 2200 rpm where I start the runs.
If I wanted too I could start the runs at a slightly higher rpm and in the case of a fairly modified car with a stock pump that can't keep up with the demand it is safer to start at say 3000rpm where fueling isn't going to be an issue

[Parso]

OK some investigation today into the the tiny K04s Actuator. Can we get some extra turns on there to hold boost at the top end and midrange..... I think so....

Simple job really but you will need some fancy tools at certain points, any good workshop should have these. Be sure to start with the engine cold or you'll be very sorry. Note: this is not my car just another CG R I had lying around today

Remove engine cover
Remove rear cover mount point
Remove coolant lines
Disconnect coil packs relocate cabling
Remove heatshield 4 bolts 2 sizes
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator05.jpg

Look in despair at location of actuator x 2, yes its down in there...
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator06.jpg

reach in and remove locking mechanism covering the actuator nuts. This is just the end of the rod we need to get too
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator07.jpg

Undo end slightly

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator03.jpg
wind inner bolt along 3 turns
do up outer nut back up again to tighten up against the valve arm at its new location.
refit locking mechanism
Enjoy newfound boost and retune to suit

Pics from a webcam and Lumix, I should have taken some more. It is impossible to see any of these nuts or the flapper arm as its too far in and completely covered from above by the exhaust manifold. The whole thing is done by feel but I like to use a cam or two first up to see if things can be done

[Brick]

Stock Logs
Groups 20,31&115 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnCJJxqJ2HFodDVJTnJKU3hyNzRBTXZWMjQ3bkR3S Wc)
Knock Control, AFR's and Boost

Stock Logs
Groups 230,231and115 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnCJJxqJ2HFodFFsR1VFaE8zWGRFWXR5aHVzWHpSa 1E)
Fuel Pressure and Boost

I have stacks of these and will sort through the most interesting. These logs are all done on the dyno and you'll see the revs dancing around then settle on about 2200 rpm where I start the runs.
If I wanted too I could start the runs at a slightly higher rpm and in the case of a fairly modified car with a stock pump that can't keep up with the demand it is safer to start at say 3000rpm where fueling isn't going to be an issue

Mark,

I see you never exceeded 109.99 for requested fuel pressure. I had similar readings when I did my data logging, although I did see an actual of 125. Makes me wonder a little bit about whether there will be any actual benefit of the RS4 valve. Have you seen any logs with one fitted?

Thanks

[Parso]

Yes I have others going over 130 :) but I'm not sure if I should post them up . All of the tuned cars go over 130, a fair bit over. Even the stage 1 cars are up a bit too, I might post them up

[Tarmac]

Good to see some stuff up on your build thread Parso. So what did we learn by adjusting the actuator? Will it hold boost as we have compressed the spring or will the spring inside the actuator let us down because of the amount of boost now going through it (providing boost is been bumped up to around 20psi). I assume this spring is weaker than say a Forge Blue actuator spring.

[Parso]

The actuator spring is like only capable of holding 4 psi or something silly so it will start leaking gas past the flapper once the back pressure rises above this point, when it does it will cause the boost pressure to drop because the turbo isn't pumping enough air anymore as there is now less gas going past the turbine wheel. The boost control may try and restore the higher level of boost and so on.
The real solution it to increase the spring constant but the easiest way to do this is replace the whole actuator. By doing the mod I've done we just cheat a bit and delay the point at which the flapper begins to open. The risk is that the actuator rod breaks but I haven't seen this occur myself on other cars, they reckon its an issue on the K04 actuator though. I say if it breaks it will force me to replace the bastard with the Forge one anyway.
This car really did feel much better to drive in the midrange too really strong. I think it would almost be enough to convince me not to put a GT3071 on but time will tell. I want to dyno it next week,we need a new 'Queen', we just ran out of time yesterday and tomorrow I have some other cars to tidy up as well as dropping by CPC to have a chat to Sam about some things.....

[Tarmac]

"I think it would almost be enough to convince me not to put a GT3071 on"

WO, BIG CALL. BIG CALL!!. Having something like the K04 that spools up quickly is great for zipping around the streets. If i lived in Germany it would be a different story. But it is tempting for late next year...

Anyway, good explanation. I see how what you did and the Forge actuator will "help" but at the end of the day its the turbo that runs out of puff, not so much the actuator setup. Would you say the power could come on stronger with the actuator "fix"? If you can allow/control for the boost when the flapper opens i guess this would keep things more constant. But again, when the psi starts dropping off in the higher rev range, its more the turbo running out of puff. Correct me if im wrong.

[Parso]

Thats pretty much it, as soon as the thing bring on max boost this mod will help and it helps to maintain boost for longer. I'm sure James could do it but he will hate you afterwards - its a sh1t of a job to do really.
There is only so much the poor K04 can do and its actually really amazing how capable it is compared to other stuff I play with. I still think a 3071 is the go though but that's going to involve a bit more work with injectors an so on

[Tarmac]

Yeah i dont want to piss the tuner of before the tuner tunes the car. LOL. I'll probably wait untill someone *cough* Goran figures out an "easy" way of doing the actuator and then do mine. The 3071 would be awesome but it would mean screwing around with more stuff. Not sure if i want that yet, give it a year or so maybe.

[Rudy-R]

Mark,
I gather there are a lot of tuned cars here in Melbourne already running such a modification.
1. Is there any downside in raising the preload spring pressure (apart from possibly snapping your actuator rod)
2. Can you tell from a Dyno graph which cars have already had this mod performed?
3. Can a stock tune accomodate a rise in max boost from 21-25psi (theoretically speaking) with no adverse effects?
4. Assuming the answer to #3 is YES, why dont manufacturerers do this mod at the outset.?

From the outside, it looks like great BFYB.

Others who have a GIAC tune who 'may' have already performed this mod may want to comment too :)

[fuzion]

Interesting read, and more so if you jump on audi-sport.net with a few guys who did some tests with this and found very minimal effects with their tunes as you can easily adjust the current actuator vs the forge one,

Ive myself played with the k03s' tap a few times, logged things, dyno'd and what not. The changes were noticeable but very minimal on overall power. more top end, less bottom, more mid, less top etc. Tarmac is very much on the ball with his comments but. Effects do happen eventually we did find out though!

Interesting to see the results what you get.. I am extremely lazy for saying this but i really can't be bothered to elaborate and explain why you should or shouldnt do it ... LOL (slacker or what!).

I truly more than anything find it interesting how we do so much here and no one ever investigates or searches on vortex/audi-sport and vagoc really that much because 99% of things have already been done on previous pirelli, ed30's, s3's, a3's, etc! Results, blogs, pictures you name it!

I think we all tend to forget though, how much power can you get out of a stock turbo before it goes kaput. And it may go for a while, but eventually as we found out .. the k04 will go kaput one day LOL (yes you, you're reading but not posting.... lol)

[Tarmac]

Good input Fuzion. Funny you mention about the other forums. I had a look a while back and a lot of guys seem to think the forge actuators were really getting good results, especially with revo funny enough. Giac not at all. Custome tuning (where its at) of course. This was mainly for the K03 but there were some with K04's too. I dont see how much more the K04 could get than 200ish.awkw. I mean whats really letting it down? Injectors, no. Not much point having a tonne of fuel with no air. I think Parso and others have been getting excellent power out of the cars without putting a massive amount of strain on the engine. There also the fact that (i may be wrong) if we are trying to hold boost all the way to 7000rpm that to me creates lots of heat, A/F's would be hard to keep right as the turbo doesnt want to keep up but we are forcing it too with actuators and fuel.... (i maybe off the mark here)

"Is the glass half fuel or half empty?"....."Its twice as big as it needs to be" (off topic but had to say it, Mech Eng)

[fuzion]

Good input Fuzion. Funny you mention about the other forums. I had a look a while back and a lot of guys seem to think the forge actuators were really getting good results, especially with revo funny enough. Giac not at all. Custome tuning (where its at) of course. This was mainly for the K03 but there were some with K04's too. I dont see how much more the K04 could get than 200ish.awkw. I mean whats really letting it down? Injectors, no. Not much point having a tonne of fuel with no air. I think Parso and others have been getting excellent power out of the cars without putting a massive amount of strain on the engine. There also the fact that (i may be wrong) if we are trying to hold boost all the way to 7000rpm that to me creates lots of heat, A/F's would be hard to keep right as the turbo doesnt want to keep up but we are forcing it too with actuators and fuel.... (i maybe off the mark here)

"Is the glass half fuel or half empty?"....."Its twice as big as it needs to be" (off topic but had to say it, Mech Eng)

To get it right takes a lot of adjustment and vagcom and revo sps.

You will see some gains, sometimes you will see no gains as i said. Its a pita of a job to change it! Could be worth hit, could be a complete waste as well. GIAC will benefit vs say APR as it adapts more to change/modifications than most other off the shelf tunes. (experience speaking, not here-say).

Heres a thread of an interesting read http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89839

[Parso]

I'm a bit confused with the last few posts but I'll add that the actuator mod really does work, I can feel it and will know by how much when I overlay the two runs on the dyno. The tune is setup to take advantage of this though and with a normal tune like I'm guessing some others have used its not really going to do jack as actual is probably happily tracking specified and these would be set at lower normally obtainable levels. If its not making target then this will help
I can't guess why the manufacturers have selected such a weak spring although the VAG stuff has very good boost control down low and maybe this is why perhaps.
I've had this mod running on a few K03s for a while now including my own 1.8T and its running without issue though I secretly hope that it will blow up so I can put something real on there :). With the rod breakages I can't understand how that occurs unless they've just gone to town with the force they have applied to the rod - I don't overdo it even though others I know overseas suggest more turns is quite OK. I might lose a touch of extra boost at the top end though but meh that's OK and pfft there doesn't seem to be anyone else here to chase at the limit anyway (throws out the bait)

[Tarmac]

Just did mine 9 turns and there is a funny squeaking noise......Oh well, sure it will go away....errmm

Dyno results please.

[Parso]

won't be till next week when I get the car back again. The car was making 199 with a full system APR HPFP FMIC Rs4 valve and Milltek turbo back. Now it has a BSH intake and the actuator adjustment.

[fuzion]

I'm a bit confused with the last few posts but I'll add that the actuator mod really does work, I can feel it and will know by how much when I overlay the two runs on the dyno. The tune is setup to take advantage of this though and with a normal tune like I'm guessing some others have used its not really going to do jack as actual is probably happily tracking specified and these would be set at lower normally obtainable levels. If its not making target then this will help
I can't guess why the manufacturers have selected such a weak spring although the VAG stuff has very good boost control down low and maybe this is why perhaps.
I've had this mod running on a few K03s for a while now including my own 1.8T and its running without issue though I secretly hope that it will blow up so I can put something real on there :). With the rod breakages I can't understand how that occurs unless they've just gone to town with the force they have applied to the rod - I don't overdo it even though others I know overseas suggest more turns is quite OK. I might lose a touch of extra boost at the top end though but meh that's OK and pfft there doesn't seem to be anyone else here to chase at the limit anyway (throws out the bait)

I think this subject could go on forever lol :)

I will leave it where it is! As said have played a lot with a few cars over the years and seen the effects from custom tunes and not.. everyone will have of course different results due to different tunes, mods and obviously adjustment :) Keep us updated with how you go

[Tarmac]

won't be till next week when I get the car back again. The car was making 199 with a full system APR HPFP FMIC Rs4 valve and Milltek turbo back. Now it has a BSH intake and the actuator adjustment.

Ooooo nice Parso, NICE. Looking forward to final results.

[Parso]

Its actually a shit of a job and the gain will only be minor plus I really don't want to do it ever again but I can tell I will. I'm better off with a 3071GTX kit from ATP and just run it below the limit of the internals to keep costs down. That's the thought of the day for me.

[Tarmac]

Good point to leave it. Just out of interest. How much are those kits worth?

[Parso]

Thats less than others with the same or less mods by ~5 kW

[fuzion]

Its actually a shit of a job and the gain will only be minor plus I really don't want to do it ever again but I can tell I will. I'm better off with a 3071GTX kit from ATP and just run it below the limit of the internals to keep costs down. That's the thought of the day for me.

couldnt agree more! hahaha.

[Gogi]

+1 on the GTX3071R upgrade although im not even going to contemplate it until 1.) our Dollar stops falling and 2.) The yanks get the Golf R and do all the developement, trouble shooting and ironing out of all the bugs!! Then we will be able to get them cheaper and they will be proven on the R!

I will get back onto the actuator next w/e...

[Parso]

+1 on the GTX3071R upgrade although im not even going to contemplate it until 1.) our Dollar stops falling and 2.) The yanks get the Golf R and do all the developement:), trouble shooting and ironing out of all the bugs!! Then we will be able to get them cheaper and they will be proven on the R!

I will get back onto the actuator next w/e...

On their LHD cars ...... That's the scary thing I've run into this first hand too many times. Apparently the ATP kit is OK but I'm still yet to hear from their sales people who are very slow to respond.
I'm driving the R all over Sydney today and even with its 179 atw tune I feel its sadly lacking in grunt :( Whomever is happy with these cars in their stock form needs to be zapped with a cattle prod.

[Tarmac]

HAHAHA cattle prod. Good point by Goran and yourself, sounds like they arent quite there with them yet. My timing of later next year may be perfect. Enjoy driving your R around sydney, may as well took a Barina.

[Gogi]

179kw atw? Is that all? Mark your car is crap...i have 202kw atw and Michael as 204kw atw...infact all your customers have more power than you! Must be the old man syndrome...

[Parso]

I have Candy White which we all recognise as being the fastest colour . I don't need more power.

[Gogi]

Candy white is for those wanting to coordinate with their hair ;)

[Candyman]

RB for ladies with a blue rinse ?

[tippah]

White is not a colour!!!!!!....Next

[Candyman]

White is not a colour!!!!!!....Next

But Candy White is ....

[10d]

Black for stealth

[Brick]

Black is the absence of light, so technically not a colour either.

[Parso]

White is not a colour!!!!!!....Next
Keyword Candy

Rising Blue is just soooooooo STI wannabe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkYEp7WhXc8) :)

[tippah]

if RB gives me that much power il be happy

[Parso]

if RB gives me that much power il be happy
The motor is sitting down at the workshop still and is good for 335kW atw even with the low RPM knock after the oil pump failure :) It would certainly make for an interesting conversion into your R

[tippah]

Yeah it would.....I have a grinder and a cutting wheel....

[dave-r]

179kw atw? Is that all? Mark your car is crap...i have 202kw atw and Michael as 204kw atw...infact all your customers have more power than you! Must be the old man syndrome...
He probably just gave you guys a safe ping. I mean lets face it, if APR doesn't make the power you guys are running then it can't be possible!

[Tarmac]

So can we get to the other side where the actuator is mounted? What "special" tools are needed. When disconnecting the coolant lines can you just plug them back in and good to go or do you need to bleed the system? And Is the stock rod preloading the spring at all, in other words once we figure out how to install the new 1 will we need to preload it to a certain amount?
Also will my forge actuator stay shiny or does this need to be polished weekly?


OK some investigation today into the the tiny K04s Actuator. Can we get some extra turns on there to hold boost at the top end and midrange..... I think so....

Simple job really but you will need some fancy tools at certain points, any good workshop should have these. Be sure to start with the engine cold or you'll be very sorry. Note: this is not my car just another CG R I had lying around today

Remove engine cover
Remove rear cover mount point
Remove coolant lines
Disconnect coil packs relocate cabling
Remove heatshield 4 bolts 2 sizes
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator05.jpg

Look in despair at location of actuator x 2, yes its down in there...
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator06.jpg

reach in and remove locking mechanism covering the actuator nuts. This is just the end of the rod we need to get too
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator07.jpg

Undo end slightly

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator03.jpg
wind inner bolt along 3 turns
do up outer nut back up again to tighten up against the valve arm at its new location.
refit locking mechanism
Enjoy newfound boost and retune to suit

Pics from a webcam and Lumix, I should have taken some more. It is impossible to see any of these nuts or the flapper arm as its too far in and completely covered from above by the exhaust manifold. The whole thing is done by feel but I like to use a cam or two first up to see if things can be done

[Parso]

I doubt it not without removing the whole engine/ box mount and drive shaft drivers side it's just crazy.
Your probably better off aiming to pull off the exhaust manifold and turbo together IF you can get to all the bolts . If you look around you'll see a lot of guys just take the whole motor out and do everything once.
I'll quiz Dario a bit more about how they've done the turbo swap on his

[Tarmac]

ok cool sounds good. May be easier to just take the mani and turbo out. But like you said, if we can get to all the bolts.

[Cam]

The motor is sitting down at the workshop still and is good for 335kW atw even with the low RPM knock after the oil pump failure :) It would certainly make for an interesting conversion into your R

Or into my '11
:p

Love your old STI, such a nice colour. Watched that vid quite a few times!

[Tarmac]

Looks like you have a pump on the way, will be interesting to see your results.

[Parso]

Yeah I saw that I'll log the b1$&h thoroughly

[R:.]

I'm driving the R all over Sydney today and even with its 179 atw tune I feel its sadly lacking in grunt :( Whomever is happy with these cars in their stock form needs to be zapped with a cattle prod.

+1 Mark. I am seriously still not getting the excitement that a bigger turbo brings.. My old beloved skyline used to have 430HPs and had a bigger turbo and almost 630nm of torque, and man when that came on that used to let you know about it.. 265s beings spun in the first 3.5 gears no probs. The Golf still feels so safe and ####.

Ill wait to get the car dyno'd and tuned properly.. but I know when you can get all 4 to light up for a couple of meters that will be good. Actually that will be awesome.

But im with others I will wait a bit till I get a bigger turbo, internals etc.. tbh I am still on the fence whether I will get a bigger turbo etc or whether I will get a new car in 3 years.. unfortunately as a man who just moved out of home cant do both. And I am really liking my R, first car I have really enjoyed as it is so good at everything.

[zbeasty]

[QUOTE=R:.;150184Ill wait to get the car dyno'd and tuned properly.. but I know when you can get all 4 to light up for a couple of meters that will be good. Actually that will be awesome.[/QUOTE]

Sport mode and TC off in the wet will have you spinning all 4 for more than a couple of metres (well into 3rd gear in fact). I think it will take a healthy 3076 or even 3582 to get the R spinning in the dry. Come on Mark what are you waiting for. You've already got a spare turbo or 2 lying around :) .

[RSmiling]

Parso,

Want to get my Golf R tuned ASAP. The car has 200km on the clock and I'm already in need of more power. When is the earliest you can perform a tune?

Reading your website it mentioned your're able to extract 180kw from a tune and about 200kw with a dump pipe, intake and tune. Could you safely extract more than 180kw with just a tune?

[TEFF]

Sport mode and TC off in the wet will have you spinning all 4 for more than a couple of metres (well into 3rd gear in fact). I think it will take a healthy 3076 or even 3582 to get the R spinning in the dry. Come on Mark what are you waiting for. You've already got a spare turbo or 2 lying around :) .

Not even with GT30 or GT35 the 4 wheels won't spin on dry. The DSG is made in such manner that when you do a LC, you won't feel that bang in the back of your head that you would normally feel with a manual gearbox :D
I did a LC 3 days ago, 3 deegree Celsius, winter tires on, and no slip at all :D

[Parso]

I usually tell everyone to wait till the car has say 5000kms on it just to make sure there isn't some wierdness going on that you need to get sorted out with the dealer and it also means the motor isn't as tight so it should in theory perform a bit better too. In any event we can tune a car for anyone whenever they want and really we can always flash your car back to stock with your own original file whenever you want anyway. Ideally we need to see the car one day earlier to take a copy of the original ECU data in order for us to start work well before you drop the car back as we need a few hours to prepare a base file or two for your car - more if its the more serious remaps. I do get around Sydney between workshops on some days so this initial read and even the write can possibly be done at a location close to your home or work
We could probably do more than that figure if we really wanted too and two cars recently were 184~185 plus I'm yet to test my latest version of our files loaded on my own car on the dyno but I was logging things on the M4 yesterday evening at its feeling very healthy indeed. I wouldn't get too fixated on just a power figure, its the whole curve you want to look at and every car is slightly different. Without those other supporting mods you risk or rather potentially lose stability and unless properly logged you could do something very nasty. Even at 180+ levels we have to log several important parameters intensely on every car and thats usually on the dyno and on the road as a minimum. A particular concern on all the S3's and R's is the fuel system supply below 3000 rpm - its really not that good. Engine safety is the priority all the time. What I'm getting at is at these levels I would be hoping whoever tunes these cars logs them properly. Safety first then power.
180 ish atw is very noticeable for sure stock at 155 ish very boring.
Stock hardware tunes only for the next couple of week till I get rid of a bit of a backlog of the 200 ish kW cars, I'm getting lazy and I want to complete a couple of others before Christmas. I'm there tomorrow for a bit and Friday

Mark

I'd better renew my membership here I think its expired and I'll be getting a big moderation whack shortly if I don't sort that out:)

[Adzy]

Sub'd!
I also considered the Ibis poo option Parso

[Fab_R]

Sub'd with great interest :)

[Tarmac]

Sub'd!
I also considered the Ibis poo option Parso

Its a unique mod this one. Parking the car in the right spot has proven to be the hardest part.

[Parso]

Its a unique mod this one. Parking the car in the right spot has proven to be the hardest part.

This mod can only be carried out on the road and its not possible on the dyno unfortunately. It might be possible in Melbourne though :)

[Adzy]

We are currently developing an Ibis drogen extracting method with impressive results... will keep you guys updated.
(individual results may vary

[Rob32R]

Subscribed, such an awesome build.

[Parso]

Nothing to report. I think the only mechanical mod so far has been to switch my number plates across from one of my other cars to this one. So many other cars to sort atm its wearing me down

Parts are starting to arrive though so when time permits I will throw them on
RS4 Rail valves are here
Actuators Here
FMIC is I think lost in transit :(
HPFP is on its way
Dump pipe is available
Intake still needed, still not sure just to go BSH in the interim till the new ones are developed

[Parso]

OK finally,
No pics just yet but a nice Ceramic coated TXS dump pipe is finally on the way :) I want this on next week but due to the amount of work we have atm it will more likely be mid january :( .
I believe these will be available as an option on their sirte in the near future - well as near as next year is anyway

[Parso]

Update......

FMIC delivery FAIL
HPFP delivery FAIL
Rail Valve delivery FAIL
Dump delivery FAIL
spark plug delivery FAIL
Acutator and RS4 Rail valve delivery successful :)

At least its forced me to do some tidy ups on the stage1/stock hardware tunes and even get some customer cars closer to being finished. Hopefully the goods that are (possibly) in transit will be stored at the freight company over the break and not sent away or something equally as silly

[RSmiling]

Mark, the tune you did on my R is feeling strong, that little jerk in 2nd is still there but improving on its own, hoping the drive to Melbourne this Sat will sort out the issue. Thanks for squeezing in the tune before Xmas.

[Parso]

Cool have you noticed it improving in the top end or haven't you done the kilometers yet (say 100 or so) ?. We'll fix that for you if its still there when you get back. I think silver fox might have it too Damn MY12's :)

[Tarmac]

ceramic coating? Whats the point of that?

Sounds like the xmas transit bug has FAILED again.

Im waiting for some massive results.

[Parso]

Carrying on from the hijacked tune thread .....


The Borgwarner setup on the aftermarket manifold works really well and has a heap of clearance compared to the stock K04 and manifold. we had to swap the 20 psi actuator back to something more sane ~11 psi and it only took a couple of hours.
Feels great coming on boost very responsive even in a very basic form

[Parso]

ceramic coating? Whats the point of that?

Sounds like the xmas transit bug has FAILED again.

Im waiting for some massive results.

Ceramic coating will aid in keeping the heat out of the engine bay and it also usually helps spool but with the K04 spool is not going to be an issue. I'm not quite sure what the price for this option will be but I believe it will be quite reasonable.

[Tarmac]

If i new that i would of done it myself before i put it in. Yes, i have access to ceramic coating. But now its in, its not coming back out. EVER.

[Tarmac]

Carrying on from the hijacked tune thread .....


The Borgwarner setup on the aftermarket manifold works really well and has a heap of clearance compared to the stock K04 and manifold. we had to swap the 20 psi actuator back to something more sane ~11 psi and it only took a couple of hours.
Feels great coming on boost very responsive even in a very basic form

hmmm interesting. Whats the spool like? What Garrett does it compare too. Everyone gave Dario crap for getting that turbo but its good he did something different.

[Parso]

Once you take the dump pipe on an off a few times it gets pretty easy


I can breathe a small sigh of relief, the workshop is closed now till mid January so no more stage 2 tunes till then :) I can still manage the stage 1 tunes though if need be

[Parso]

hmmm interesting. Whats the spool like? What Garrett does it compare too. Everyone gave Dario crap for getting that turbo but its good he did something different.
It has a heap of boost available at 3K and Id take this any day over the GT28 POS that it replaced. The 28s are so laggy usually boost is only available after 3500 on these motors. The GTX version that your getting might be different though - you'd want to hope so. In any event you dont really want to run big boost below 3K rpm anyway with the TFSI's crap fuel system. Its one area where the newer motor has the upper-hand over the older one like ours.
I can't tell you about the Turbos top end though, that will have to wait till its nearly finished unfortunately

[Tarmac]

WELL. im not sure what im doing yet. After the total turn around from my car on wednesday night and the torque it has. Its a little weapon. The GTX28 should be good though, although not yet available. I looked at the EFR's ages ago but i thought fitting them would be a problem. I also want to keep the TXS DP. dont think i can with the EFR.

Sounds like boost is coming on in the perfect spot. I cant wait to see the results. It should be good.

You better spend some time on your car. AND pics man, everyone wants pics. Ive learnt that people get bored if you dont have pics. And a mad dyno video. Pics man, Pics. We want pics of a stock Golf R we have seen 1,000 times. :lol:

[dyljoy]

ya, pic never get ppl feel bored~

[Parso]

Tarmac you should consider the actuator or at least a few turns on it and so should BPS this is the stuff that seperates the generic stuff from the 'mans tune' lol

[RSmiling]

Cool have you noticed it improving in the top end or haven't you done the kilometers yet (say 100 or so) ?. We'll fix that for you if its still there when you get back. I think silver fox might have it too Damn MY12's :)

Haven't hit the magical 100km yet. Only did 50km since the tune and the car is still only a total of 950km. I'll let you know how it goes when i come back from Melbourne next week.

[Parso]

The Good - Forge Actuator with yellow spring going on the car Thursday, yes its a me day (apart from chatting to an S3 owner) everyone else can bother me the following week when the workshop formally reopens.
I will do plugs and the HPFP upgrade pump if time permits

The Bad - Pity I have no dump pipe available for a while due to backorders at TXS(F$%^) LOL
Need to order an intake still
I suspect my intercooler is in one of those containers on that ship in NZ cause it aint here either that or I'm going to have to send a team of Ninjas to Shanghai to pay someone a visit .

[tippah]

Hey parso when you install the forge actuator can you let me know if its worth it...I have one just don't know if il fit it or just do the 3 turns of the nut like you have advised.

[zbeasty]

Pulling the exhaust manifold off or doing it the mans way? I think it is possible to fit the actuator without removing the exhaust manifold. Just need very small hands to get to the 2 nuts that hold the actuator on (spring end not wastegate end). Had mine mostly pulled down on the weekend but ran out of time. Next time I will book a full day and do it.

TXS should also have a spare DP to fit.....might look a bit different to the normal design but apparently it flows just as well :)

[Parso]

Well this is why I've decided to do it really, As I proved to myself there's no doubt that 3 turns improves things but I dare anyone here to try it one weekend as its no easy task simply due to its location, I can't say too much else as I really would like to see some others suffer a bit :). All along I've been told by my counterparts overseas to do the whole actuator but up till now I've resisted which has meant on a couple of cars I've had to tune around a few niggly things and its very time consuming. My aim is to fix some midrange boost related issues rather than just gain peak power. I'll happily settle for both of course.

[Parso]

Pulling the exhaust manifold off or doing it the mans way? I think it is possible to fit the actuator without removing the exhaust manifold. Just need very small hands to get to the 2 nuts that hold the actuator on (spring end not wastegate end). Had mine mostly pulled down on the weekend but ran out of time. Next time I will book a full day and do it.

TXS should also have a spare DP to fit.....might look a bit different to the normal design but apparently it flows just as well :)

Pfft that dump is not going near my car Maybe I could go Tippahs 'hiflow' option as an interim.
I'm ripping everything off, my hands are too big, though I have some Asian female friends who'd be perfectly suited to this task and I'll ask them tomorrow I'm not sure how good their tool skills are though (dont go there......)
Nope whole thing off then throw it all back on again, even f you get it on its still a big job just to get to the nuts to set the preload. The guys have all the gear all the funky spanners etc so I'll just plod along and get it done.

[Parso]

I may give the car its first wash in February :cool:

[tippah]

Il let you test my modified dump pipe if you want...I just have to wait for the scorpion exhaust to arrive from england...Hopefully very soon as i want MORE power and noise.
So your saying i have to remove the whole turbo to get the actuator on and off easily. I was hoping to do it on the car......Helicopter mechanic here so I'm used to working in tight and very F&^ked places with engine components.
I take it there is a trick to set up the pre load with the actuator?

[Tarmac]

Finally some updates on Parso's thread. I only just saw your previous comment about the actuator as i have a "mans tune". Im with Parso on removing the manifold. It will be a lot easier and less mucking around in the long term. You can have a clear view on everything once its off. I think a good aim would be to reduce the boost spike and up the boost in general. Instead of spiking to 27 and tapering to 20. Hit 22 and carry it all the way through to the redline. That would be nice. I cant be effd doing mine at the moment but we might have to soon i think. I still think that if im taking the manifold off in the first place then a new turbo should just be put on at the same time. :) :) :) yeah yeah do it do it.

PS Parso didnt you get the memo about washing the car once a week. Its a requirement when you own an R. You need to keep up appearances.

[Parso]

Some pics....

changing the Actuator spring from a Blue to a Yellow in order to reduce the preload a touch over the blue. Both are fine though but the yellow allows better boost control down low. The question is will this affect the available and usable boost at the top end
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/P1010030.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/P1010027.JPG

and one more time for those handy with tools
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/K04Actuator07.jpg

[Tarmac]

Nice pics mate. I think blue is better as its RB which is the signature colour....errrr...yes. Staying tuned, take lots of pics. :)

[Cam]

The Bad - Pity I have no dump pipe available for a while due to backorders at TXS(F$%^) LOL


Must have been those Christmas sales
:p

[Parso]

I now have to pic up my new Samsung camera (http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/camera-camcorder/nx-system/nx-cameras/EV-NX11ZZBCBAU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&subsubtype=nx-classic&returnurl=) tomorrow morning on the other side of Sydney at Castle Hill so I won't get to start till 10am. Could be tight but I'm feeling confident

[Parso]

Must have been those Christmas sales
:p
Yes I have yours and stupidly I did not get one for myself Doh !!!!! which means tailshaft and exhaust off yet again when it turns up. Your Rex one is much easier thank goodness.

[BenR]

Price check on TXS dumper?

[Parso]

$1200 supplied. If your car is tuned by us the fitting is free plus you get an extra o2 sensor bung (special RTS edition :) )
Ceramic coating is a $150 option i.e bargain !!!

[BenR]

Hmm, interesting indeed. A few more questions. Apologies for the thread hijack:
- Will it mate with my Miltek cat back?
- What does the ceramic coating do?

[stephen8512]

Hmm, interesting indeed. A few more questions. Apologies for the thread hijack:
- Will it mate with my Miltek cat back?
- What does the ceramic coating do?

1) it should mate
2) after googling a bit :

"The main reason most people opt for the ceramic coating is to reduce the amount of heat that the downpipes emit during constant use (which has been noticed around the center console area), keeps under-hood temperatures to a minimum, and extends the life of the plastic components in the immediate vicinity of the downpipes. If you are not a very aggressive driver, then you do not necessarily need a ceramic coating. However, if you like to track the car or just drive aggressively, then the ceramic coating will help with the longevity of your downpipes. All in all, it is a smart idea."

[BenR]

Does it look faster? Please confirm.

[Jig]

Ceramic coating in my opinion is a must for headers as its very close to everything else inside the engine bay. Dump pipes as well. As far as exhaust is concerned, its really up to you Ben because the exhaust sits under the car so the heat can't travel upwards and into your cabin at all. If you want to see how ceramic coating looks like, take a look at my headers on my MKV R32 build thread or the recent Heffner twin turbo at the Ramspeed page. You will see that its especially shiny.

Mark/Parso: How can i purchase these O2 sensors please. I apologise for the off topic.

[Parso]

Without question:)
Thanks Stephen for answering that it's a PIA trying to type on an iPhone

[Parso]

Which sensors ? The standard VW ones ? We can get all types but for those I think techedge would be the best source here


Ceramic coating in my opinion is a must for headers as its very close to everything else inside the engine bay. Dump pipes as well. As far as exhaust is concerned, its really up to you Ben because the exhaust sits under the car so the heat can't travel upwards and into your cabin at all. If you want to see how ceramic coating looks like, take a look at my headers on my MKV R32 build thread or the recent Heffner twin turbo at the Ramspeed page. You will see that its especially shiny.

Mark/Parso: How can i purchase these O2 sensors please. I apologise for the off topic.

[PTW]

1) it should mate
2) after googling a bit :

"The main reason most people opt for the ceramic coating is to reduce the amount of heat that the downpipes emit during constant use (which has been noticed around the center console area), keeps under-hood temperatures to a minimum, and extends the life of the plastic components in the immediate vicinity of the downpipes. If you are not a very aggressive driver, then you do not necessarily need a ceramic coating. However, if you like to track the car or just drive aggressively, then the ceramic coating will help with the longevity of your downpipes. All in all, it is a smart idea."

Some more info....

The centerline of the tube has the hottest gases while along the wall you will find the "coolest" gases.

You want to maintain the highest average gas temperature to promote flow. Thus the reason for ceramic coatings and stainless steel.

With ceramic coating you want the inside and outside (especially for mild steel tubing) of the tubing coated. Having the inside coated will locate the "insulation wall" closer to the core and increase the average exhaust gas temperature in the tube. Stainless steel is better because its heat conduction properties are poor, therefore it insulates better.

[Parso]

Yes and that helps with spool on a real mans turbo, it will be interesting to see if the weener K04 benefits in this area.

[Tarmac]

I think its BS. How much cooler does it make it? Has anyone done back to back comparisons? Car cold to warm, heat measured? Same Temps on dyno etc etc. When i see this I will shutup. Im a mechanical engineer and have a trade. So i see how a theory like this works, in theory. Real life scenario's are different.

[Parso]

H8Rs gonna H8 :)
I know what you mean though but it seems to work well in the subie scene so I can't see why it wont here. I'm still waiting for the donk to cool down ATM . I'll know if its make a difference once I eventually get hold of one to fit

[Tarmac]

But you wont have comparisons in the same car?

I just like stiring the pot :)

So your playing cars today then?

[Parso]

Actuator On :p

[Tarmac]

Fark off. how long did that take? Not as long as expected. PICS NOW!!! Notice the difference.

[Parso]

Fark off. how long did that take? Not as long as expected. PICS NOW!!! Notice the difference.

OK not even close to finished

Its taken since 10:30 to get the turbo out and the actuator on an setup so lets call it 4 hours to get to that stage NOW I have to start putting it all back together but I can't do this till tomorrow cause we caught one of the outlets off the N75 on the firewall and snapped it off FARK !!!!!!
So I have about 4 hours to go and have to replace coolant and a complete oil change too
Are we going to do it on a customer car... nope I don't think its worth it in labour. I've conceded defeat today and am now eating a Vietnamese chicken roll with a grey import cherry cola to wash it down, pics in a sec when i get this camera hooked up

[BenR]

Noodz?

[Parso]

We had a couple of Bikies in a second ago I will ask for nude pics and see how hey take it :)

[BenR]

Yeah for sure. Add crazy eyes and I think they'll be right into it...

[Parso]

LOL

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0001.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0005.JPG

Filthy wheels :)
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0006.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0011.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0014.JPG

[Parso]

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0015.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0019.JPG


F.A.R.K !!!!
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0022.JPG

[Parso]

So yeah a relatively simple and cheaply accomplished task compared to something very complex and expensive


Meh sh1t happens

[M4RK0]

Nice Mark!!!

[zbeasty]

If it wasn't for that muffler thing on the turbo outlet it would be much easier to do the job on the car. Tempting to cut it off and just add an extra bit of pipe in there.

[Tarmac]

OK not even close to finished

Its taken since 10:30 to get the turbo out and the actuator on an setup so lets call it 4 hours to get to that stage NOW I have to start putting it all back together but I can't do this till tomorrow cause we caught one of the outlets off the N75 on the firewall and snapped it off FARK !!!!!!
So I have about 4 hours to go and have to replace coolant and a complete oil change too
Are we going to do it on a customer car... nope I don't think its worth it in labour. I've conceded defeat today and am now eating a Vietnamese chicken roll with a grey import cherry cola to wash it down, pics in a sec when i get this camera hooked up

Good job mate. Bummer about the broken bit. Some things cant be helped. So i guess i shold only take mine off if im going to change the turbo :) the time invloved probably isnt worth the benefit. Nice pics. I can understand the coolant change but why the oil? Were you doing that anyway or did you have to drain it for some reason?

PS clean your effn wheels. At least.

[BenR]

What did you break and what does it do?

[Parso]

One of the connections on the boost solenoid . I have a new one turning up in the VW mid day run tommorrow but let me carry on a bit here I might relocate the solenoid elswhere

[BenR]

What is that 'thing' on the turbo outlet (cold side)?

[Parso]

That's the muffler thingo that Zbeast is talking about its right in the way of everything too

[BenR]

Can you gas axe it?

[Parso]

You can gas axe anything and it is a lot of fun too :)

[tippah]

Ah well you just made up my mind if il be putting the actuator on the car. Unless when you tune it it make allot of difference. Il just adjust the nuts a few turns now

[Parso]

We were just costing it then Say 6~8 hours plus $120 oil + filter plus coolant really $650 give or take . Is it worth it ?

[Tarmac]

Ah well you just made up my mind if il be putting the actuator on the car. Unless when you tune it it make allot of difference. Il just adjust the nuts a few turns now

YAH, wont be as good and it might weaken the spring over time. But by then you will have a bigger turbo anyway :) :)


We were just costing it then Say 6~8 hours plus $120 oil + filter plus coolant really $650 give or take . Is it worth it ?

So you need to do the oil why? Does get quite expensive. Plus the cost of the actuator. So a $850 mod for maybe nothing.......waiting for logs and dyno results. Only problem is the car wasnt "finished" then the actuator just swapped. Guess if you make like 240awkw then we will soon know...... :)

[Parso]

The car will only have that actuator and our first level R1 tune on it tune. That's it. I will have to modify the boost mapping till the dump turns up but it should be ok. This thing will give me the potential for a bit more power I know that for sure but we are at the limit of the K04 pretty much.
I have another pretty big announcement to make shortly too but this can wait .

[Parso]

If I see 210 plus on our dyno we gave the lead easily. I'm pretty sure we have it already though

[tippah]

This announcement butter not be costly to my pocket

[BenR]

If I see 210 plus on our dyno we gave the lead easily. I'm pretty sure we have it already though

Looking forward to seeing it.

[Parso]

Oh yeah I forgot to add, you need to dump the oil because you have to take off the oil lines from the turbo just to get it out and the only oil line accessible is the one attaching to the sump. Mine was 500kms past its service date anyhow so meh why not.
Apparently I have some part awaiting me at the post office from a failed delivery during the holidays end of last year is says 'large' 'heavy' so I'm thinking thinking this is not the fuel pump ...could it in fact be the missing link.... the THS intercooler ????
Intake hmmm its either VW racing or a BSH trueseal . I will see whats available quickly

[tippah]

Get to it mate i want to see the outcome of your own build and tune and if the actuator is a deal breaker or wait till the gtx28 hits the streets

[Parso]

I would like this to work well but even if it does it has to be an effective option otherwise its just a personal nicety for me which is still OK I guess. The tools I have available to use make it just so much easier, they have some really funky gear all Snapon and so many variants of each size in all sorts of weird shapes etc great stuff in these tight areas. I couldn't do it with my own tools and I have all the main stream sizes in 1/3 3/8th 1/2 and all the spanners and weird drives but its just not enough. You might have a better kit though with your Heli stuff. I had the car up and down on the hoist about 20 times too
We were looking at the K04 on the ground and the guys were asking how much a decent turbo was an whether it was worth putting back on ........Its going back on though for now anyway.

[zbeasty]

I still think it is doable with the manifold on the car. The photos you have taken with the manifold off only prove to me how close I was on the weekend. Took us 3 hours to strip down but we didn't know what we were doing. We still had the DP and tailshaft in my car and I could feel the heads of the bolts that hold the actuator on. It took less than an hour to get it back together. I'm going to have to book in a full day at my old man's place when I get back from hols and do it. Maybe I'll invite Leigh and Goran and we can do 3 cars in one day. Surely after we've done 1 it will only get quicker :).

[tippah]

Yeh I've removed a K03 and that was a pain in the ass....I ended up removing the right side driveshaft and strut. made it so match easier. Helicopter tool are pretty much the same as what you work with except for aircrafts manufactures specialty tools that cannot be used on cars, mostly gas turbine tools. Maybe you could make a tool to get it off while its on the car? Id like to try and do it on the car. i think il have a look at mine and see if i can come up with anything.

[tippah]

I still think it is doable with the manifold on the car. The photos you have taken with the manifold off only prove to me how close I was on the weekend. Took us 3 hours to strip down but we didn't know what we were doing. We still had the DP and tailshaft in my car and I could feel the heads of the bolts that hold the actuator on. It took less than an hour to get it back together. I'm going to have to book in a full day at my old man's place when I get back from hols and do it. Maybe I'll invite Leigh and Goran and we can do 3 cars in one day. Surely after we've done 1 it will only get quicker :).

Could be a plan but knowing me il get up one morning and just decide to do it on the garage floor and get stuck into it. Il do mine when i get the new exhaust as the old one has to come off anyway. I ratchet spanner with a swivel end may be the right tool for this job.

[Parso]

I should have taken more shots from above, you get to a point where you can easily touch the heads of the two bolts but you can get a tool in there due to the angle and solid line that runs across that solid line you cannot move without taking the manifold off. It just sucks big time
Even if you got to it you still have to remove the actuator nuts too and get the new one in and setup a bit of preload properly. Its possible to do this but the angle of the bracket holding the valve is not correct its more than 90 degrees and its about 95 or so which if bolte in place makes the rod not line up properly at the far end. A hammer and vice fixes this issue though.
I'll do more shots tomorrow in the reverse, love this new camera too :)

[BenR]

Sounds like a real PITA to me. I'll only be doing anything like that if the turbo is replaced.

[Parso]

Pumps arrived !

[Tarmac]

Awesome, when are you putting it on? I will probably be pulling mine off soon to inspect the cam follower. Its almost done 5000km so i thought it couldnt hurt to check the follower.

[Tarmac]

Sounds like a real PITA to me. I'll only be doing anything like that if the turbo is replaced.

yeah, im waiting for my gtx28 to arrive. This sounds like a gay job

[Parso]

workbench is at a perfect height, note my crap tools but I don;t like tying up the guys with their good stuff too much
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0024.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0025.JPG

http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0027.JPG

Replacement 3 port boost control solenoid. We have a very cosy relationship with the local VW dealer here and they even suggested I bring the car in and have it done on warranty. I don't do dodgys like that especially since we have the valve here delivered less than 24 hours later at a stupidly cheap price. It also means If I ever have a legit claim they'll look past the modifications and sort things out for us without drama. It works both ways of course we do a lot of the bigger jobs for this same dealer, most people think that their car dealer does all the work on their cars - its not always the case
http://recode.net.au/images/VW/GolfR/Parso/Actuator/SAM_0031.JPG

[Parso]

I can't fit the pump because I forgot to order some cam followers DOH !! they could have been here with the valve too....


I'm talking to the power coaters next door in a sec time to ghetto these wheels I think

[Tarmac]

1: I dont know how you work like that. LOL. i need all my tools organized. But yes, you cant have everything all the time.

2: Pump looks the goods hey?

3: I dont trust dealer mechs/apprentices

4: Loving Sirrom

Yeah baby, get those wheels black.

Cam followers from where? Just use the stock one. It should be fine for a while. Waiting on Johns new funky cam follower.

[Tarmac]

Also see john is selling S3 injectors.

[Parso]

Also see john is selling S3 injectors.

No good unless they are hiflowed some way

Don't be fooled by the tools they're just out there at the moment all the rest are very organised

[Gogi]

I can definately confirm that you cannot change the actuator with the turbo on the car...I tried heaps of different ways from raising the engine up as much as i could to removing engine mounts and lowering it as much as i could! (Cost me $320 for a new a/c fan in the process!!)

[Tarmac]

Whos this guy ^. You cant just rock up and help out. Hows it hanging Goran?

Sounds like i wont even bother doing it.

[Gogi]

Hahahah...i have been hiding overseas, down south etc...

I have been busy installing parts on other ppl's cars and don't have time to do my own!!

I think i will have to tackle the wastegate actuator one w/e...

[Tarmac]

I thought you were OS. Have fun? Do much?

You almost sound like a dirty pirate mechanic. Never having time for your own car.

Good luck on the w/e. Having either A: a punching bag close by or B: a hooker close by.

[Parso]

Funny that Goran returns at the same time as that guy who was lashed 70 times in Saudi Arabia, coincidence ????

[Tarmac]

Funny that Goran returns at the same time as that guy who was lashed 70 times in Saudi Arabia, coincidence ????

HAHAHAHA i read about that. It is quite weird. They look VERY similar too....

[Gogi]

I have been instructed by the Department of Foreign Affairs not to make any comments....

[HOTHATCH]

Why wasn't I told about this thread earlier ?

I just read all 17 pages after a 10 hour night shift and I'm exhausted from just reading it let alone the actuator job bit.

Looks like my DSG service might get done some time late 2013. :(

You better give me a steer of this beast when it's all done or you're out of my will.

[Gogi]

Why wasn't I told about this thread earlier ?

I just read all 17 pages after a 10 hour night shift and I'm exhausted from just reading it let alone the actuator job bit.

Looks like my DSG service might get done some time late 2013. :(

You better give me a steer of this beast when it's all done or you're out of my will.

There are only a few useful pages...the rest is all whinging and whining about him getting his hands dirty and what colour he is going to have his wheels powder coated...next he is going to put those eyelashes on his headlights!!! Here they are... http://carlashes.com/

[Tarmac]

There are only a few useful pages...the rest is all whinging and whining about him getting his hands dirty and what colour he is going to have his wheels powder coated...next he is going to put those eyelashes on his headlights!!! Here they are... http://carlashes.com/

Bahahahahaha. People actually do this. hahahaha that is GOLD!!! clearly americans. Parso, these would look soooo hot on your car. You should sooooo get them. Like, Yeah. Totally.

[Adzy]

There are only a few useful pages...the rest is all whinging and whining about him getting his hands dirty and what colour he is going to have his wheels powder coated...next he is going to put those eyelashes on his headlights!!! Here they are... http://carlashes.com/

I saw a bitch in a pink Nissan Micra with those eye lashes on!!! I wanted to ram her into the wire guard rail... talk about LAME!

[Gogi]

I was on a sight visit when i first saw them, i nearly walked straight into a bloody trench from disbelief!! Talk about a hazard, had to put it on the Hazard & Risk assessment! lol

[Adzy]

Drop a PIN notice on that shit for sure!

[Parso]

Driving home now , I feeL so tough with my shiny new actuator :)

[Adzy]

Driving home now , I feeL so tough with my shiny new actuator :)
And who wouldn't! Its all about the SHINY! :D

[RSmiling]

Driving home now , I feeL so tough with my shiny new actuator :)

Was it worth the trouble?

[Tarmac]

Ok so the GTX28's can be ordered now........!!!!! Opens wallet.....places order........ day dreams about power.......ahhh

[Parso]

Was it worth the trouble?
Definitely ...........,,,






Not :)

[Tarmac]

Definitely ...........,,,






Not :)

hahaha, that made me rauff out roud.

To more exciting news.............GTX28. Yes.

[tippah]

Back on topic no one cares about a shiny actuator any more....That was yesterdays news lol

[Tarmac]

Back on topic no one cares about a shiny actuator any more....That was yesterdays news lol

I reckon. Were we still talking about that?

[Parso]

Thats it I"m off to start my own forum

www.vwgolfR'swithforgeactuator.com (http://www.recode.net.au)

I do not expect many members

[RSmiling]

I can now cross the actuator off my shopping list.

[HOTHATCH]

Thats it I"m off to start my own forum

www.vwgolfR'swithforgeactuator.com (http://www.recode.net.au)

I do not expect many members

How about www.mkVgti'sthatneedadsgservice.com.au

I know of at least one member. :(

[Parso]

Yeah I know , I know :) I'm going to dyno your beast too and show these GTI muppets some real grunt :)

Hey that link of yours doesnt work

[tippah]

It sucks because I bought an actuator haha

[Parso]

Well there's no reason why you can't do this DIY at home over a weekend or 5
I've done a few rotated turbo setups at home over the years and really all you do is just estimate the time it will take to complete the task then multiply that figure by about 10.

[tippah]

I know I could do it in a day. Just don't want to now lol. Gtx28. Can u tune for that parso

[Parso]

Yep done these before but I'm not impressed with the spooling of the 28 its pretty old school and very laggy. The GTX though could be different and it would want to be too but the comp map doesn't look that impressive really. It has a better top end but you need big boost to get the same flow as an older GT3071. I'll look at this again in case I got it wrong

[zbeasty]

Thats it I"m off to start my own forum

www.vwgolfR'swithforgeactuator.com (http://www.recode.net.au)

I do not expect many members

Give me a month of 2 and I'll join. Definitely can't go BT and if you have to pull the car half apart to just wind the stock one on a bit I may as well go the whole hog and replace it.

[Parso]

I reckon I could get the actuator turns down to three hours with only a coolant top up required but even then you need some good tool of a particular length.
Design a helper spring gizmo on the other end of the rod - it would work !!

[Parso]

Most of the pics for the whole build I'll put in either Picassa or photobucket
http://photobucket.com/parso

The pics here a higher res and include alot of underbody and engine bay shots for future reference when installing stuff :)

[Tarmac]

So whats the thoughts on the new gtx28. I think its the easiest option at the moment.

[Parso]

whos going to be the RHD guinea pig for a kit though. I've been through all this many times before and simple job with a cheap kit turns into a time consuming (read expensive) nightmare.
I know I'll end up doing it though, can't help myself.
I have to get the car ready for the drags next month

[Tarmac]

whos going to be the RHD guinea pig for a kit though. I've been through all this many times before and simple job with a cheap kit turns into a time consuming (read expensive) nightmare.
I know I'll end up doing it though, can't help myself.
I have to get the car ready for the drags next month

Ill be ther guinea pig. The gtx using the same housing and all the bits as the GT28, and there are bolt on kits for that. You can use all the stock oil lines, DP etc etc. So you just need to buy all the stuff to make your own kit. Its all available. Simple........i hope. Expect the best, prepare for the worst

[Parso]

Bolton kits where everything is exactly where you need it it be ? I'll have my popcorn ready for that one for sure. I hope your right of course

[Tarmac]

Thats the rumour anyway.

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-256&Category_Code=FSI

Can i please have some popcorn sir?

[Parso]

I think Glen checked these out for his S3 and the UK guys had issues, its all just plumbing though.

[Rudy-R]

I thought it nailed with ATP AWD kit. How wrong was I!
As Parso said earlier, think of a reasonable number of man-hours (sorry women), then quadruple it!
My ATP turbo kit was cut into 5 pieces, rewelded, and in the end 1/2 was discarded :(
They use reasonable 304 S/S though, so the bits we kept looked OK.

If you have a kit that is a bolt on, and works out of the box, i will eat my hat. Happy to be proven wrong though.

[Kicker]

Yeah I called ATP and they said everything fits for RHD but the UK guys all had issues.

The intake will work. The DP will not.

So providing the installer can cut and weld the DP you'll be ok as it needs to clear the brake cylinder.

I've received my RS4 injectors.I'm undecided about what turbo to use but am leaning towards a GTX3076 with upgraded internals.

I bought 4 x nitro rc trucks to play with whilst I mull over the turbo.....yes, I have 4 because I broke 3 lol.

[Tarmac]

I thought it nailed with ATP AWD kit. How wrong was I!
As Parso said earlier, think of a reasonable number of man-hours (sorry women), then quadruple it!
My ATP turbo kit was cut into 5 pieces, rewelded, and in the end 1/2 was discarded :(
They use reasonable 304 S/S though, so the bits we kept looked OK.

If you have a kit that is a bolt on, and works out of the box, i will eat my hat. Happy to be proven wrong though.

Simon was the kit you bought the full kit with DP? They are saying the stock DP will fit. Myself having the TXS means that it should fit yes? The manifold will fit. Turbo will fit. Intake will fit (may need new silicon elbow) the only problem i see is oil and coolant lines? Agree? or am i way wrong. If im right, would you be willing to share info on the oil and coolant lines?

[Rudy-R]

Simon was the kit you bought the full kit with DP? They are saying the stock DP will fit. Myself having the TXS means that it should fit yes? The manifold will fit. Turbo will fit. Intake will fit (may need new silicon elbow) the only problem i see is oil and coolant lines? Agree? or am i way wrong. If im right, would you be willing to share info on the oil and coolant lines?

Hey Ben,
Running an EWG compounded the issues of fit immeasurably.
The Turbo XS unit is a keeper for IWG applications, IMO, and will likely fit. The Americans hadn't quite figured real world differences LHD > RHD.
As for oil lines, a visit to a Speedflow retailer will be all you need; we plumbed 45 degree connectors to the end of the OEM lines to give length and clearance. No issues afte that.
Cheers

Simon

[Tarmac]

Thanks mate. Hopefully it all goes relatively smoothly, as im not doing any insane EWG stuff. I bet it will still be a pain though. After seeing your build list, im not sure i ever want to reeeally wind it up and therefore do internals......ever.....at the moment. :)

[Rudy-R]

Thanks mate. Hopefully it all goes relatively smoothly, as im not doing any insane EWG stuff. I bet it will still be a pain though. After seeing your build list, im not sure i ever want to reeeally wind it up and therefore do internals......ever.....at the moment. :)

Ben, you need to talk to Sammy. The force will MAKE you do internals, whether you want to or not. The DNA on the Y-Chromosome insists that this is so....

[Sammy]

Ben, you need to talk to Sammy. The force will MAKE you do internals, whether you want to or not. The DNA on the Y-Chromosome insists that this is so....

I just wanted to upgrade rods and bolts.

Then I did head work.. Then i thought why not do pistons too... Then I did everything else that attaches to the motor.

[Parso]

I'm trying to not do internals this time round but yeah I know I'm kidding myself, I still have rod and piston kits (and turbo kits) left over from multiple STI builds in my roof too
Ideally I think the 3076gtx would be a good combo but it be interesting to see how the EFRs with their IWG go too
If I come across a long S3 or R motor cheap I'll grab it and do the lot in one go
We have a good custom welder available and also we use a mobile hose guy for any non standard stuff so nothing's impossible just time
Pity there's no cam options available for these engines yet

[Tarmac]

I just wanted to upgrade rods and bolts.

Then I did head work.. Then i thought why not do pistons too... Then I did everything else that attaches to the motor.

haha, dammit. Sounds like you twisted your own arm. Is this for the gti Sammy?

Simon, please stop with the peer pressure. I cant handle it. ;)

[BenR]

Who is this Sammy pretender?

[Sammy]

haha, dammit. Sounds like you twisted your own arm. Is this for the gti Sammy?

Simon, please stop with the peer pressure. I cant handle it. ;)

Check my build thread for details.

[zbeasty]

I have to get the car ready for the drags next month

That reminds me. I was going to enter.

[Kicker]

I'm trying to not do internals this time round but yeah I know I'm kidding myself, I still have rod and piston kits (and turbo kits) left over from multiple STI builds in my roof too
Ideally I think the 3076gtx would be a good combo but it be interesting to see how the EFRs with their IWG go too


I'm thinking GT3071 with stock internals or GTX3076 and upgrade internals, fuel, EBC.

[Tarmac]

I'm thinking GT3071 with stock internals or GTX3076 and upgrade internals, fuel, EBC.

I still think if your going to leave stock internals then why not use the low down rev range like the K04, and just go to the next step being gtx28. 3071 will be too laggy and you wont benefit from it.

[Kicker]

I still think if your going to leave stock internals then why not use the low down rev range like the K04, and just go to the next step being gtx28. 3071 will be too laggy and you wont benefit from it.

Perhaps.

So did i read right and you have ordered your turbo kit now?

I've been pissing about as i was waiting for the actuator results but looks like that hasn't amounted to much.

[Tarmac]

I havent ordered it yet, need to make some decisions tonight with James from BPS and ill go from there. I did write i ordered it but that was more to gee myself and everyone else up. I was all for the actuator mod until i found out what was invloved. So now im just going to do the turbo instead. The car is pretty good as is, but if im going to fix the actuator problem then i may as well make it a bit faster.

[BenR]

That's my boy!

[swalee]

I havent ordered it yet, need to make some decisions tonight with James from BPS and ill go from there. I did write i ordered it but that was more to gee myself and everyone else up. I was all for the actuator mod until i found out what was invloved. So now im just going to do the turbo instead. The car is pretty good as is, but if im going to fix the actuator problem then i may as well make it a bit faster.

You also have one more hurdle..... YOUR missus.

[Parso]

Perhaps.

I've been pissing about as i was waiting for the actuator results but looks like that hasn't amounted to much.

Hey, give me a couple of weeks and we'll know for sure. i have to find an intake somewhere and get hold of a dump then its good to go. Unfortanately for me there are too many customers that want things done :(

[Tarmac]

You also have one more hurdle..... YOUR missus.

Shhhh...


Hey, give me a couple of weeks and we'll know for sure. i have to find an intake somewhere and get hold of a dump then its good to go. Unfortanately for me there are too many customers that want things done :(


Yes, people have jumped the gun a bit. Parso is the only 1 that has done this and his car isnt even tuned (really). So once its puttn down 200+ then we will know for sure. Want to see that boost curve.
Just hurry up, customers smustomers.

[Kicker]

Hey, give me a couple of weeks and we'll know for sure. i have to find an intake somewhere and get hold of a dump then its good to go. Unfortanately for me there are too many customers that want things done :(

Sorry that came out wrong. I wasn't meaning you were slow, i was meaning it didn't sound like it was doing much from what i read on your posts.

btw i was behind a BF FPV GT yesterday morning. He wanted to show me who was boss from the lights which he did......as i overtook him..... like a boss.

[Tarmac]

Sorry that came out wrong. I wasn't meaning you were slow, i was meaning it didn't sound like it was doing much from what i read on your posts.

btw i was behind a BF FPV GT yesterday morning. He wanted to show me who was boss from the lights which he did......as i overtook him..... like a boss.

hahaha. GOLD!

[Parso]

I just realised who Kicker is, he's one of the customers holding me back :)

[Parso]

Intake dilemma(formerly spelt dilemna) sorted I have a BSH trueseal coming from Tim at dubaddiction :) fully sick uleh

[RSmiling]

Intake dilemma(formerly spelt dilemna) sorted I have a BSH trueseal coming from Tim at dubaddiction :) fully sick uleh

Reading the dubaddiction website it doesn't mention the BSH trueseal fits the R. I was thinking of purchasing the same intake, does it require minor mods to fit?

[Parso]

I think they are out of stock of these now but they may be getting in another UK brand that looks pretty damned good so it would oay to wait .....and also get me to fix you car first :)

[RSmiling]

I think they are out of stock of these now but they may be getting in another UK brand that looks pretty damned good so it would oay to wait .....and also get me to fix you car first :)

Looking forward to the fix. My wife is the daily driver and she is annoyed with the hesitation in 2nd.
I want me a 12sec car. Over the next few months - Looking at the THS intercooler, TXS dump pipe, forge actuator???, not sure which fuel pump or air intake yet. What do you recommend since you will be tuning the car.

[Parso]

I have a fix for yours hopefully just a torque limiting value that not quite right :) but I'll send you some info via PM tomorrow with more details so we can double check a few things.
Forget the actuator for the moment.The rest of the gear is good to add too but if you just want a safe high 12 you could get away with just an Autotech pump upgrade + RS4 valve along with the dump and it would be there for sure.

[tippah]

Get a evoms intake. I or mine off eBay USA for 370 landed

[Parso]

Get a evoms intake. I or mine off eBay USA for 370 landed

Nice edit thank god I'd never heard of evokes :)

Theres an issue with the Evoms intake that bugs me and its the area just next to the MAF sensor, its down stream but I still think it could interfere with airflow it seemed to do some weird things with Michael's originally then it somehow cured itself and was fine so I don't know for certain. Have a look and you'll see a big step there.

[tippah]

Yeah i know the step your talking about.....i never had an issue with it. My research found out that its to keep that same size as the original intake so not to give weird signals to the ecu....Ehh it works sounds good and looks neat

[Kicker]

I just realised who Kicker is, he's one of the customers holding me back :)

Well i'm also clinically depressed after driving into a carpark with my 200km old $3k mountain bike still attached to the roof yesterday...... Car is ok. Bike is fkd.

Bye bye turbo kit money :(

[Parso]

Ouch, What brand was it. That's what happens when you have a baby
I can lend you my GT avalanche 0.5 that I'm sposed to be riding into the CBD right now

[Kicker]

Ouch, What brand was it. That's what happens when you have a baby
I can lend you my GT avalanche 0.5 that I'm sposed to be riding into the CBD right now

Giant Trance X2. Thanks for the offer, i have a Giant Deathtrap as a spare so i'll use that and pray the brakes stop me :)

You're not half wrong as normally i'd laugh this stuff off and get another one. Now, when something breaks i cry :(

[Parso]

Well at least we've solved your big turbo problem for you, actuator mod it is.

Did the frame bend or just everything else. I want to see some pics of the carnage :>

[Parso]

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?7718-VW-Showdown-25th-Feb-WSID

So who's coming along to this

[Sammy]

I'm entered.

[Parso]

Cool I'm hoping we see a few good cars there too from whatever tune provider, there's quite a few 12.x cars around now and it will be good to get some friendly rivalry happening.
Yours will be a bit quicker than that of course if you can get it to the ground so yes let's not bring TS into it for fear of embarassment to us awd owners :)

[Tarmac]

Parso, have you washed your car yet?

[Parso]

Umm no but we did have some heavy rain on Monday which took a layer or two off. I will post up a pic a bit later cause it does look pretty good after the downpour.
I will have it washed mid February fingers crossed

Edit: Still has that nice new car smell though

[Tarmac]

YOur kidding me!!! Seriously. Your giving us a bad name. Mid Feb? Are your arms not working until then or something?

Yeah, new car smell is awesome. I like the fact they make new car smell air freshener! how did they do that? Did some little shit go around capturing new car smell from all the cars in car yards and lock it in a jar, THEN somehow get it into a bottle or magic tree?

[Parso]

I wonder can I get that fresher trade price ......
There's no point washing it this week because they predict rain next fortnight

[Tarmac]

Chances are high.
Doesnt matter when you wash your car, it WILL rain the next day. Just wash it. Its not about it being dirty. Its about doing the right thing. Show it love and it will show you love back.

[Parso]

The only way it will get washed is if I manage to psych myself up to pull into a car wash pay the money and sit at a table drinking a complimentary latte'

[bluefrog]

The only way it will get washed is if I manage to psych myself up to pull into a car wash pay the money and sit at a table drinking a complimentary latte'

don't do that, I got a nice large complimentary scratch on my door panel by a place on Victoria Rd (Sydney) ages ago


Chances are high.
Doesnt matter when you wash your car, it WILL rain the next day. Just wash it. Its not about it being dirty. Its about doing the right thing. Show it love and it will show you love back.

+1, at least keep the contaminant level low and the clear coat will thank you for it :)

[Gogi]

Mark, less posting more twisting of arms in the workshop...lets get that Actuator put onto my car, i want to get the tuning finished so i can settle my debts!!! :P

[Tarmac]

Yeah, i want to see Gorans car make sic power. I want to see if this actuator business is going to be the shizzle.

[Tarmac]

This

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6722676459_f1f1d8f3d2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/68321737@N04/6722676459/)
Spring%20First%20Test (http://www.flickr.com/photos/68321737@N04/6722676459/)

[Gogi]

I thought about doing that ^^^ but there is not much to hook onto and it is very hard to get into there on the R...

[Parso]

You know jokes aside that would work to some extent and you could do it just to test whether or not an actuator swap would solve the bleed issue.
You can hook on to the rod at the end if the spring had a 6mm + end on it and then just attach it anywhere on the drivers side for the duration of the test. Finding suitable spring though........
Use the forge actuator vertically with a small pulley for the 90 degree and cable attached to the arm and then you can say you've fitted the actuator to your car

[BenR]

Based on that approach I'll save heaps in installation costs.

I'll just chuck all the parts in the boot. They're 'in' the car...

[Tim]

Cant you just cable tie the wastegate closed?

[Tarmac]

You know jokes aside that would work to some extent and you could do it just to test whether or not an actuator swap would solve the bleed issue.
You can hook on to the rod at the end if the spring had a 6mm + end on it and then just attach it anywhere on the drivers side for the duration of the test. Finding suitable spring though........
Use the forge actuator vertically with a small pulley for the 90 degree and cable attached to the arm and then you can say you've fitted the actuator to your car

Im going to give it a whirl. Im guessing the spring is going to need a bit of tension.


Based on that approach I'll save heaps in installation costs.

I'll just chuck all the parts in the boot. They're 'in' the car...

haha, ive just installed a GTX3076R. Doesnt seem to be boosting correctly...small details. small details.



Cant you just cable tie the wastegate closed?

YOU sure can.

[Parso]

You could, the bottom end would be a screwed but for the purposes of one run commencing at say 3000 rpm you could ignore the boost spike and get a good idea of how it copes. See the current problem is the gate opening a touch the the controller compensating by closing it but then it opens again and the controller again try's to get the boost up by closing it , so you get this weird roundabout thing happening and this is on top of the surge that happening too . It's a pain in the ar$e and it's why you see some of the tunes bringing in boost really slowly