DIY - RNS510 Install

[Cam]

Hey all,

I can't take full credit for this as most of these pics are all Lima's from his RCD500 removal thread over at VWW but I wanted to add a little bit to it for anyone wanting to install an RNS510. Thanks for your guide Lima I read through it a few times when I pulled the dash apart the first time. It was a great help.
:)

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f15/how-remove-rcd500-headunit-7058.html

Please note I'm not responsible for any damage you may or may not do to your car. If you take your time you won't have any issues.

The RNS510:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2768/4342076926_23e4ebdf11.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4342074418_0a945e1dbb.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDjm2D2FPP4

Tools

1 x T20 Torx driver
1 x old credit card or thick piece of plastic card
2 x rag or towel. One for the dash and the second to cover the gear knob when installing the unit.
1 x patience for removing plastic trims
1 x Vagcom/VCDS (this isn't strictly needed for the install, but the RNS510 will need to be coded to the car, fault codes cleared for unplugging the wiring harness/connectors and sound system coded to get the RNS510 operately optimally. More info on coding changes down the bottom of the page)
1 x RNS510 Map CD

Before starting....things you should be aware of

1) Canbus
The canbus is the gateway that connects everything throughout the car. If you have a pre 2008 model vehicle you will most likely have an earlier revision canbus that will not be able to handle the power requirements of the RNS510. This is often referred to as the "power drain issue". If you install an RNS510/RCD510 and don't upgrade your canbus the unit won't know when to turn off and it will drain your battery. More info on this can be found here:
http://www.my-gti.com/1101/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rcd-510-power-drain-issue

Newer canbus unit can be purchased from skodateile@seznam.cz
I picked mine up for roughly 91 euros shipped to the door from overseas. Shipping took roughly 2 weeks.

Installation of the canbus isn't overly difficult. It requires physically changing the unit and then recoding of the car. Derek at European Autotech in Mona Vale installed mine because I couldn't get to it easily. More information including installation with pictures can be found in this thread:
http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98828

2)Aerial Connectors

Its not absolutely necessary, but an additional aerial harness can be purchased to house the aerial connectors for a tidier fit and finish. More information on this can be found here:
http://www.my-gti.com/1088/upgrading-2nd-generation-radios-rcd-300-rcd-500-to-3rd-generation-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rns-510-rcd-510-antenna-adapter

I picked up this harness off ebay in Germany for a couple of euros.

3) Satnav Antenna

The RNS510 comes with a satnav antenna which plugs into the back of the unit. It plugs into the blue socket. If you have a shark fin antenna installed on your car, this antenna won't be necessary as the shark fin can be used as the satnav antenna. The satnav antenna feeds up through the vents and can sit near top middle vent. The antenna however is also magnetic and can be attached to a small piece of metal for easier fitment.

Installation

1) Begin by removing the plastic vent selector panel piece with the plastic card. Once this has been removed gently start prying from the back corners of the vent piece and lift out. Don't pull too hard and watch the sensor wire. Once accessible, unclip the sensor and remove the panel.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/1-1.jpg

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2) Unscrew the torx screw in the middle. To remove this piece you can hold the inside of the plastic and lever from the back and sides to loosen it a little. It just lifts out.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/3.jpg

3) This is probably the trickiest part of the whole install, this is the part I found most difficult.
Unscrew the two torx screws and with the plastic card begin to level the plastic clips one at a time from the back. There are 2 clips that clip onto a rubber mould at the side and one very tricky one just above the head unit in the middle. The middle clip I've found tends to get stuck so please take caution because if it snaps it will rattle like buggery. Once its loosened a little the whole piece lifts up. You will need to use a fair amount of force but don't be rough. If it won't come out first go, leave it, go and grab a drink and then come back to it.
;)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/4.jpg

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4) Once the centre piece is unclipped you can unclip the hazard switch or just place a towel on the dash and lay it down and move the cable to the side.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/6.jpg

5) Next remove the two torx screws as shown in the photo. The fascia panel is rather thin so take care removing it. The plastic card once again comes in handy, gently pry from the sides and in the middle to remove it.

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6) Once the fascia is removed remove the 4 torx screws holding the head unit and then gently lift out. This is where a rag or towel comes in handy to rest the unit.

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7) Unclip the wiring harness. There is a small clip on the underside of the harness that lifts upwards then unplug the aerial connectors also. Now the unit is free to come out.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/12.jpg

8) Place the RNS510 into the dash, plug the harness in and the aerial connectors (if you have the aerial harness adapter this will fit straight in...if not you can strip the plastic from around the aerial surrounds and use electrical tape or a cable tie to keep in place. This isn't the most extravagant method but it does the job. Refer to the aerial antenna link above for further information.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/14.png

9) Test the unit before plugging it back in! When you turn it on it should prompt you for the security code which comes on a VW code card with the unit. Ensure you can hear the radio, use the touchscreen and all buttons etc. If you can...GREAT! Time to now follow the instructions above in reverse and put everything back together.

Post Installation

Now that the unit is installed there are a few more things to do before its all finished.


1) Loading Maps

Insert the RNS510 Map CD/DVD and it will prompt you to update the maps database. Maps are available from various forum members or via torrents. Dealers will want to charge you over $1000 for the map dvd. Go for a short drive and make sure the maps are working and the satnav antenna is picking up your location correctly. In some cases (this is what occurred in the GT sport when we installed it) we needed to go for a 20min drive before the satnav calibrated itself and worked out its positioning. I'm unsure why this is the case, it may have been due to the lack of satellites at the time but I've read reports of this happening before. So if it doesn't pick up your location straight away, don't be alarmed. Give it some time. However when I installed it in the GTI it picked it up nearly instantly.

2) VAGCOM/VCDS Coding

It isn't strictly required that you code the unit with vcds as the RNS510 will still function ok however its recommended to do so, to ensure you get the best out of the unit. If you don't own a vagcom cable and required software put a feeler out on the forum, someone may be able to help you out. Otherwise your local dealer should be able to do the necessary coding for a fee. I recommend finding someone with a cable as the coding only takes about 5-10mins to do.

The main things that need to be done are:
Coding the unit to register it as a device in the car.

This involves entering a few numbers under the Navigation 37/Radio 56 channel for Importer, Workshop Code and Device Number values. These can be 123, 12345 and 123. If this isn't done fault code 01042 - Control Module - Not Coded will show up.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01042

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/workshopcode.jpg

Improving sound quality

I found my sound quality was a little disappointing after installation. It didn't have that depth that the stock system had. A few adjustments need to be made to the coding of the unit. Follow these instructions to rectify the problem.
http://www.my-gti.com/1411/volkswagen-rns-510-coding-when-installing-with-a-factory-amplifier

In addition to this, there is a loudness setting that is available in the RNS510's secret menu under Audio. This is worth checking.
http://www.my-gti.com/1078/entering-setup-on-the-rns-510-with-recent-firmware

Fixing multifunction steering wheel (MFSW) buttons

In some cases the volume buttons, mute button and track up/down buttons may not work after installation. This requires a coding change.

- Open Controller 37 Navigation - Coding - Long Coding Helper
- Head to the second last byte and tick BIT 0 - Shortpress Steering wheel buttons installed (not sure if this was an earlier GTI thing associated with the half height MFD)
- Secondly tick Communication Instrument Cluster ... via BAP
- If BAP is already ticked untick it and close long coding helper.
- Restart the RNS by holding the < and > and i buttons down.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/camerooney/canbap.jpg

Where to purchase...

I purchased my RNS510 from an ebay seller called Navi555. It cost just over $1000 shipped
http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/navi555__W0QQ_armrsZ1

Credits to Lima for the pics and Maverick for his great site.
Lima - http://www.ausmotive.com/
Maverick - http://my-gti.com

[Rayjuice]

nice write up definately will come in handy!

[Ozram]

When I added voice control to my RNS510 I needed to access the back of the unit. I found these trim tools very handy.
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=TH2338&CATID=29&form=CAT&SUBCATID=519

[Frenchie]

Nice work Cam and Co..Great info and will be compiled in a DIY thread.

[Cam]

Thanks guys. Hopefully it will be of use to someone
:)

Ozram, thats very similar to what I was using. So handy!

Forgot to add, in addition I added an ipod cable and bluetooth parrot kit too. But I don't have any photos of the install. Its all plug and play though.

[stephen8512]

thanks to this writeup i found back on the vww forum, i can now take apart and put back together the headunit in like, 5 minutes? Ive done it that many times so i know where all the bolts etc are and where to pry apart and open up etc. thanks cam!


just a quick one though. I have a RNS 510 and i didnt have to vagcom anything? I bought my RNS off g-rig, who got it from tommmy from czechosolvakia and got it imported to australia. Can you explain the VAGCOM thing again? I just plugged mine in, it played, GPS worked so I was a happy chappy

[Cam]

Same with me Stephen! I've had the dash apart heaps of times. I can do it quite confidently now.
First time was a little daunting especially with that middle centre piece.

Regarding vagcom, as I mentioned it isn't strictly necessary. Everything will still function ok. I have a vagcom cable so I decided to run a scan just to make sure everything was showing up ok. There were a few fault codes thrown up saying the aerial connectors had been disconnected and I had the control module not coded message as well. I like everything to be neat and tidy, just a housekeeping thing more than anything else.
>D

The one thing I can think of is that in some cases the Navigation module actually needs to be ticked in the CAN Gateway installation list if you have the full height MFD cluster. Otherwise if its not ticked the navigation menu with compass and directions etc won't show up on the MFD. I didn't have to worry about this with the GTI as I only have the half height cluster but from memory I had to do it with the GT sport when we installed it.

[Tux]

SNIP

The one thing I can think of is that in some cases the Navigation module actually needs to be ticked in the CAN Gateway installation list if you have the full height MFD cluster. Otherwise if its not ticked the navigation menu with compass and directions etc won't show up on the MFD. I didn't have to worry about this with the GTI as I only have the half height cluster but from memory I had to do it with the GT sport when we installed it.


So am I right to assume that if a dealer fits an RNS510 then the MFD should display the nav info??

Can anyone shed light on this please?

[Cam]

So am I right to assume that if a dealer fits an RNS510 then the MFD should display the nav info??

Can anyone shed light on this please?

Yes it most certainly should.
Its probably just one tick via vagcom (or the dealer tool). Under the Navigation module -> Long Coding CAN-BAP Protocol needs to be ticked. Its the second last byte on the coding.

The dealers should test this.

[Tux]

Thanks for that Cam. My car arrived without the sat nav even though I ordered it for a factory fit. The dealer is going to install an RNS510 and I want it to work as good as factory fitted.

[Tux]

My car was at the dealer today to have a microphone fitted to enable voice activation. After a full day of waiting around they rang me to say that the microphone wouldn't work and therefore my RNS510 won't have voice activation. Of course this didn't make me too happy so I have sent them a link from Maverick's site regarding microphone installation.

Can anyone confirm that the voice activation will work and what might need to be done so I can advise the dealership.

A salesman said that voice activation probably isn't available on my model even though my car was built in late April, 2010.

[Cam]

I believe the firmware version has a lot to do with it.
Best check what firmware level the RNS is running, for voice control to work I think it needs to be atleast 26xx.
2680 or higher would be a safe bet.
http://www.my-gti.com/1769/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-2680-2682-2684-2686-2688

Usually you'll need vagcom to check that, but try holding the Setup button down on your unit for about 10-15 seconds and see if it brings up the test/development menu. You'll be able to check from there.
Otherwise put it back on the dealer
:eek:

Mine doesn't have voice control because I don't have the correct bluetooth kit or microphone.

[Ozram]

Voice activation will work with firmware version 2660 up I think. I followed the links on Mav's site to upgrade the firmware and then to install the microphone. I don't have bluetooth though, I think you need to install 2 microphones if you have a phone system installed. See here -http://www.my-gti.com/1198/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-2660-2662-2664-2666-2668
and here -http://www.my-gti.com/1234

[Cam]

Also just noticed on mine yesterday if you go into Setup on the RNS there will be a tab called Voice Control (running 2680)
Another way to check if its got the correct firmware for the job...
:)

[Rayjuice]

Did u have to disconnect the car battery to do the install?

[G-rig]

Did u have to disconnect the car battery to do the install?

I don think you have to for all modular connectors except the airbags.

May not hurt taking the precaution if you want to..

[Cam]

Did u have to disconnect the car battery to do the install?

No its not specifically required.
:)

You can as a precaution, but as Greg mentioned the modular connectors are all pretty safe. Its a smart car, somehow it deals with it all by itself.

If anything, disconnecting the battery would be more of a hindrance, because you need to power up the unit before you put the dash back in anyway (to ensure everything works ok)

[murky]

Did u have to disconnect the car battery to do the install?
I ended up with a whole swag of errors (VCDS scan) after NOT disconnecting the battery - so +1 for disconnect.

[Cam]

There will always be errors seeing as a new unit is being installed and upgraded coding is needed.
The RNS will work pretty much as soon as its plugged in but it still should be coded after install. Its not strictly necessary, but there are going to be vagcom errors regardless.

For instance, by not having the workshop code details in it will bring up a "Control Module Not Coded" error message, this is unavoidable even if you disconnect the battery.
:)

The errors you get when disconnecting the head unit with the battery connected are pretty standard things anyway such as Antenna Circuit disconnected, Control module for navigation disconnected. They are harmless things, more informative than anything else.

I'd personally just recommend leaving everything connected.

Just my 2c.
:cool:

[WingnutR32]

Anyone know whether the RNS510 will play SACD's? (non hybrid)

[G-rig]

Not sure mate, doubt it? Don't think you'd hear the difference in the car, maybe in a concert hall though.

[WingnutR32]

I'll let you know hopefully by Sunday on whether I will hear the difference... I should ;)

"Audio CDs (CD-A) and audio DVDs, MP3 CDs
and MP3 DVDs, as well as video DVDs can be
played in the internal CD I DVD drive." <- From the user manual. Just hard to tell what they mean by 'audio DVDs'....

[G-rig]

See how you go, i don't know if it would play SACD as that's a different format to DVD-Audio, and don't recall reading anything in the specs. Don't really know how you'd burn a SACD (or where to buy them for that matter lol, online i assume but the format hasn't really taken off).

[WingnutR32]

Yeh, didn't think DVD-Audio meant SACD.. I just know that both come in the 4.7gb sizes etc. Plenty of SACD's in JB Hifi, ended up just getting standard audio cd's instead and will try an SACD when i get the chance.

[technopato]

Great write up Cam! Very helpful.
Picked up a RCD510 last night so looking forward to getting it installed in the next 2 weeks or so.

I have a Mk V GTi 2009, MY09 model the last of the mohicans as i like to call it!

Some questions if you dont mind though:

1. Should i assume that my car being a 09 MY09 will have the latest CAN BUS version? Is it the L Revision? Is the CAN BUS in the same place as previously described, under the steering column and to the left of the boot release?
2. If it does have the latest L revision, does this mean that if i plug in either an RNS/RCD510 then it should simply be plug in play?
3. Slighly off topic with this question, but is the firmware on the RNS/RCD 510's upgradeable? Where and How?

Sorry for the spanish inquisition there but would like to do the install myself unless I'm gonna need to recode anything....

Thank you in advance!

[Cam]

Hi Pato,

To answer your questions:

1. Yes being a MY09 it will definitely have the later canbus version. I couldn't tell you what revision it is, but its likely to be later than the L revision.
For a 2009, it won't be under the pedals I think its in an easier location behind the fuse box which is on the right hand panel next to the steering wheel. Hopefully somebody can confirm for you.

2. It will be plug and play.
In vagcom there will be a few errors show up (namely errors saying that the stock unit has been disconnected, antenna connections have been disconnected etc)
These don't have an impact on the performance of the unit. The main one you would need to be aware of is the "Control module not coded" error message. This will pop up when the workshop code + other codes aren't entered. This is ok, its just an informative message more than anything else. Someone with vagcom can just enter 123, 12345 and 123 in the workshop/import code boxes and this should clear the error message.

3. The firmware on the RNS510 is upgradeable, not sure for the RCD510.
There are a lot of threads around but I can't see anything concrete on the subject.

Firmware is updated via CD/DVD, you chuck the disc in and basically follow the instructions, wait 30-50min and its all done
:)

Cam

[technopato]

Cam you da man!!!

Thanks for the confirmation and quick reply dude, i appreciate it.

Pato

[Cam]

No worries mate.
Even better here are some instructions for the canbus removal that I just came across.
http://www.my-gti.com/2296/can-bus-gateway-removing-installing-and-upgrading-volkswagen-golf/comment-page-1

[technopato]

Thanks again!

Crap i think i went out and bought the RCD510 a little too early. :(

Was basing the purchase of the RCD510 over the RNS510 for one major reason which may seem stupid but makes sense to me. I wanted the function of SDHC 32GB Support by the RCD 510 but just noticed that the new firmware available for RNS510 now gives full 32GB SDHC support and the new units that are being sold on FleeBay. Links below:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-MFD3-RNS-510-passat-tiguan-golf-C-RNS510-LED-STAR-/200499308176?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eaeb0a690
This one is apparently the latest unit with LED display and Star voice activation button.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-MFD3-RNS-510-passat-tiguan-golf-Version-C-RNS510-/200499304610?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eaeb098a2
This is one is just the C version with normal display and latest firmware and maps.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-RNS-510-MFD3-Sat-Nav-Version-C-Volkswagen-RNS510-/250669754229?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a5d14e775
same as above link but from a UK seller

Do you know apart from the LED display if the Star button is a major upgrade? I mean LED is fair whack of a jump up in the picture quality.

So also looks like i will be selling the RCD510 now and purchasing the RNS!! >D

[Lima]

I've only just seen this thread. Nice pics Cam. :cool:

[Cam]

I've only just seen this thread. Nice pics Cam. :cool:

Your original write up was fantastic Liam. Full cred to you in my first post
:)

[technopato]

So finally received the RNS510 on Friday, had it installed this morning over at VWVillage in Kenso by George... Very Helpful chap and plenty of good advice. >D

So I drove away and noticed first thing that the Volume, CD Up/Down, Radio Stations ect, don't display on the MFD anymore, went back to George and he checked the VAG COM programming and all seemed okay. Drove away with the agreement he would research and get back to me.

So got home and jumped online myself and found the BAP Protocol tick box fix so not sure if George had enabled/disabled that. So will go back and get that checked.

BUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTT... thats not my major problem, my major problem is the fact that the SAT NAV will not work, I have tried to go for a good 30-40 min drive to see if the unit would pick up any sattelites but nothing. If i try to input a destination, as soon as i press start i get an error of the following: "There is no route recommendations for this destination".

Now the wierd thing is that if i am driving down the road, the unit seems to display my current position on the screen and also updated on the fly while driving so I assume the GPS Antenna is working fine. But the satellites shows 0/0 available. My GPS Antenna is mounted just above the unit, i dont hav the shark fine one.

I bought the unit from a dude on eBay in Lithuania, http://shop.ebay.com.au/used_parts_specialists/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 . Ive already emailed him and he suggested the BAP Protocol fix and also reckons he is going to upload the V3 Maps ISO for me to FTP later which came pre-loaded with the RNS i received from him.

Unit is currently running Firmware Version 2720.

Has anyone seen this problem? Can anybody help? Plllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaasssssssssssseeeeee e!!!!!! :(

[Cam]

Hey Pato,

The MFD Display will most likely be the CAN-BAP fix.
Its an easy little change to do, once thats been done you just have to reboot the unt < + > + i buttons at the same time. I'm not sure if the CAN-BAP tick box would have any effect on the Nav not working properly, its possible I guess..seeing as the Navigation module is involved it could be a little confused and not think its installed or something.


Now the wierd thing is that if i am driving down the road, the unit seems to display my current position on the screen and also updated on the fly while driving so I assume the GPS Antenna is working fine. But the satellites shows 0/0 available. My GPS Antenna is mounted just above the unit, i dont hav the shark fine one.


Now that is strange. Sounds like it could be a maps related problem.
I have encountered that "There are no route recommendations found" message before (after updating firmware) and it turned out to be the maps. I just had to load the maps disc in, go for a drive and let the GPS get a fix, then put a destination in and it worked and after that never had the problem.

If you had a problem with the sat antenna it wouldn't be showing your current position as you're driving along. A few months ago a VW Dealership actually damaged my satnav cable (crushed the wire in half) and caused it to stop working. During this time I couldn't get anything working...absolutely nothing at all. So I think your issue is going to be more of a software/maps thing and not hardware.

I'd say try updating the maps when you get the ISO (burn it on a slow speed i.e 2x or 4x), go for a reasonable drive somewhere and see if it picks it up. Its also possible that there is a bug in the 27XX firmware. If needed I think you can downgrade to 2680.

[technopato]

Cam thanks heaps for the quick reply. Waiting for the seller to now upload the ISO for the V3 Maps and will reload them.
May even upgrade to firmware 2760 first and then if still issues downgrade to 2680.

Will post in the next few days once i have more and fingers crossed it gets fixed.

Thanks again for all your help.

[Lima]

Your original write up was fantastic Liam. Full cred to you in my first post
:)

Yep, I saw that, cheers.

[technopato]

Hey Cam!
Just wanted to say thanks once again for that write up. I managed to redo the install myself, relocated the GPS Antenna and now am getting a fix of 8/13 Sattelites which pretty damn awesome!
Still having some issues with the MFD but i reckon i know what that might be just need one more visit to get some VAG-COM re-coding done and am good to go.

But thanks again, the write up was extremely valuable!

[thefullarchie]

Hi guys,
Installed an RCD510 into my 06 GTI today (with a little help!). Replaced and recoded the Canbus gateway beforehand. However, I then installed the MDI iPod kit.

I'm wondering if theres any specific coding that needs to be done to get the MDI kit to function correctly? -or is it just a matter of coding for the new gateway and the rest will just work?

[G-rig]

I'm wondering if theres any specific coding that needs to be done to get the MDI kit to function correctly? -or is it just a matter of coding for the new gateway and the rest will just work?

Hey mate, I didn't think it needed coding, but there are some notes about coding on the last page - did you get the instructions with it?

http://www.my-gti.com/wp-content/uploads/mdi_5n0057342_installation_4.jpg

Cheers,

[r207]

Hey Cam!
Just wanted to say thanks once again for that write up. I managed to redo the install myself, relocated the GPS Antenna and now am getting a fix of 8/13 Sattelites which pretty damn awesome!
Still having some issues with the MFD but i reckon i know what that might be just need one more visit to get some VAG-COM re-coding done and am good to go.

But thanks again, the write up was extremely valuable!

Just caught the end of this tread, i had the same issue in the r36. The antenna was not getting any signal. noved it nowits fine. As for your maps, swing past my warehouse when you get a chance and you use my OEM maps disc to load into the RNS510 this should fix the problem.

[YouSnooze]

I'm wondering if theres any specific coding that needs to be done to get the MDI kit to function correctly? -or is it just a matter of coding for the new gateway and the rest will just work?
As G-rig said there is minor coding to perform - should take less than 1 minute on VCDS. Essentially it's simply 'enabling' the MDI - unfortunately it's not quite 'plug 'n' play'.

[thefullarchie]

As G-rig said there is minor coding to perform - should take less than 1 minute on VCDS. Essentially it's simply 'enabling' the MDI - unfortunately it's not quite 'plug 'n' play'.


Hmm... I just turned it on and the MDI kit is working with the RCD510 (even though I haven't done this final stage of coding)... how is this possible? Am I likely to run into problems, or is it a case of 'its working so don't touch it?'

[Big Yellow]

Charlie did you get your security code thing sorted??

[G-rig]

It may have detected it automatically or something mate, but if it works properly i wouldn't worry.

[thefullarchie]

Hey T,

Yep got the security code. Had to remove the whole thing in the process mind you!


In other news, I need some tech advice about the following:
Please help if you can.

I've noticed there is no "Fader" setting. I've done a bit of reading and it would appear its a VAGCOM setting that has to be enabled. I gather you have to turn off the 'speaker monitoring' setting in order to regain the fader function. Can anyone confirm this?

Having an audio install done on Thursday and want to make sure it all goes smoothly.

Also, are there any other VAGCOM settings I need to make sure are selected to make the following setup work?

-3rd party amp (5 channel alpine V12)
-3rd party 3-way speakers in the front
-subwoofer
-RCD510
-no rear speakers (running fronts only)

thanks guys
:)

[G-rig]

Hey Charlie

Does your current car have the stock amp? I remember my fader control disappeared when i retrofit an RCD510.. What model of RCD510, does it have the AM/FM buttons or TIM/TP buttons? The current units have the fader/balance on the top right corner under the music note symbol, but recall the other ones could have a diagram of the car and is located somewhere else in the sound settings.

Suspect you have to select the correct 'sound system' in VCDS
http://www.my-gti.com/1411/volkswagen-rns-510-coding-when-installing-with-a-factory-amplifier.

I don't think there is too much else you need to change with VCDS for aftermarket installs, perhaps change the output to low level but not sure how much difference it actually makes if any.

[thefullarchie]

Update for those interested.. The fader controller magically appeared without requiring coding once the 3rd party amp was plugged into the system. Score.

In other news, the MDI didn't require any coding either, was simply plug and play in my case.

-Install complete. I'll take some pics and post up a build thread this weekend :)

[csw05]

Is their anyone in melbourne who could do this install or can someone recommend anyone who can replace my Canbus so i can install the unit?

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

[PASHN8]

csw05 - Myself and Chris will be replacing our Canbus units in about 2 weeks time in Melbourne, you're welcome to come along on the day if you like!

[Bakks]

Might not be the appropriate place for this question, but is the RCD510 simply the non nav version of the RNS510?

[Cam]

Hi Bakks,

Yes, thats correct.
For a list and comparison of differences check out this table here:
http://www.my-gti.com/719/differences-between-the-volkswagen-rcd-210-rcd-310-rns-310-rcd-510-and-the-rns-510

[csw05]

Thanks PASHN8, turns out I had the right CanBus adaptor. I have completed this upgrade myself.

For people interested in the cost here you go.

RNS510 LED Headunit $1020 shipped from Lithuania (eBay user used_parts_specialists) I decided to pay the $100-$150 extra for the LED unit as it ensured it would be a newer build and I have yet to find it in a position where I cant view the screen. Turned out to be manufactured in September 2010 :)

MDI Retrofit Kit $395 from Burwin Volkswagen (I could only find this online for around $350 so i couldn’t be bothered waiting) I fitted the box underneath the headunit and ran the cable into the glovebox.

MDI connection cable $70, this cable is used instead of the cable supplied with the Retrofit kit. It means you simply plug and play and don’t have to connect cables into your existing wiring harness. (Kabelsatz MDI VW Media-IN Multimediabuchse RNS 510 MFD3) from navis-and-more

MDI iPod and USB cable $35each (sourced via eBay from UK, best Aus price i could find was $74)

Ross-Tech Micro-Can $350 (required to reconfig your Canbus)

Total Cost: $1905 and about 5 hours of my time

It’s well worth the upgrade. The integration with the iPod and steering wheel controls is excellent. The GPS is also really good.

Big Thanks to Cam for this thread.

[Jimbo71]

G'day guys,
I've bought the RNS510 Sat Nav Unit ( manuf 09/2010 ), and the MDI Kit.

Now I understand I need to buy a new CANBUS as I have a 2006 GTI Golf.

Anyone know where I can buy one from ASAP and how much from anywhere in Melbourne or possibly overseas?

Cheers

Jimbo71

[nath_mk6]

dubaddiction sells them down your way, otherwise you may be able to convince a melbournite with one to meet up and do the changes as it only takes 10mins or less...

[Jimbo71]

Hi Guys,
Anyone in Melbourne that can help me out with this CANBUS issue? I've got everything I need but from what the DIY here is saying, is that I need a new CANBUS.
Anyone from Melbourne CBD or Metro have a CANBUS that I can use to do my configuration, as apparently I need to do this before I start installing the RNS510 and MDI kit?

Cheers
Jimbo

[oas]

Hi Guys,

Any Australian dealers that sell updated CAN BUS gateways (other than VW)?

Will be purchasing an RNS 510 for my 2006 GTI, but will need a new Gateway to prevent the power drain issue
Anyone know if version C of the RNS 510 will work for a 2006 GTI or if I need to source version B
Have read that people had difficulty getting their VerC to work in a 2006 model

Current CAN gateway details below, guessing I have version "F"
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001061118595
Coding: 3F3F0342070003
Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
VCID: 2A75CEFDFC79

[thefullarchie]

I was quoted over $400 to buy the can gateway locally (even with a mates rate discount from the dealers). Ended up getting it from skodateile (sp?) for a bit over $100, took less than a week to arrive. Buckets got his in the same shipment, both are working perfectly :)

[oas]

yeh got quoted $470 from VW
Will have to contact skodateile

Just want to confirm if anyone has had any luck with a Ver C RNS 510 in a Pre-2008 GTI or if I will need to purchase a Ver B

[Athrun Zala]

I've got the ver c rns510 on my 06 and works well

[oas]

I've got the ver c rns510 on my 06 and works well

Cool. You running the latest firmware on Ver C?
And just confirming you upgraded your Canbus gateway?

Cheers

[Athrun Zala]

Cool. You running the latest firmware on Ver C?
And just confirming you upgraded your Canbus gateway?

Cheers

version 2760 with V3 maps.
yeah upgraded it also to 1K0907530AD

check out my thread

http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?2718-Project-RNS-510

just need to update it though no pics =(

[Golf6]

Gday
sorry to hijack im new to the golf scene ..but i will be getting my golf tsi soon and it has the standard head unit, it has the mdi, bluetooth, parking sensors and cruise control in it. What RNS unit will i need in order to have sat nave etc because i have seen ver b, c and d.. also will this retrofit cause problems with the bluetooth sensors and mdi ?
thanks

[degers]

Gday
sorry to hijack im new to the golf scene ..but i will be getting my golf tsi soon and it has the standard head unit, it has the mdi, bluetooth, parking sensors and cruise control in it. What RNS unit will i need in order to have sat nave etc because i have seen ver b, c and d.. also will this retrofit cause problems with the bluetooth sensors and mdi ?
thanks

Hi Nick. I assume you are getting your RNS aftermarket and then doing the install? The RNS unit indicates that it has SatNav capability - as opposed to RCD that does not. The difference between version C and D is down to the screen resolution (version D is an LED screen) and in some cases the firmware can also be different (version C is likely to be a little older than version D). Both will do the job - and it's not hard to upgrade the firmware if it's a little dated. This will not cause any problems with the sensors or the MDI as they will plug right into the wiring harness.

[Golf6]

Thanks for the reply. It has cleared up a few things, how ever I have read that a gps antena is required in some cases, can I run it without ? Will vag com or such be required after I do the retrofit ?

[degers]

The RNS comes with a GPS antenna. It has to be installed as part of the process. It's an internal antenna - have a look at my build thread to see where I have placed it -> http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?3833-My-Silver-R-finally!/page7 (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?3833-My-Silver-R-finally%21/page7)

[SirLance]

Hello guys!

Just about to purchase RNS510 in ebay. Does anyone here in brisbane does vagcom?

[Golf6]

Thanks alot you have been really helpful in explaining the how to, is there any reputable resellers that could be recommended and also is vagcom vagcom needed after the install and is it hard to do for a first timer
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. Just a newbie :)

[frazza]

I found this thread on VAGCOM, might help. http://www.vwgolf.net.au/VAG-COM-Register (http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?2705-VAG-COM-Register&highlight=vagcom)

[degers]

Thanks alot you have been really helpful in explaining the how to, is there any reputable resellers that could be recommended and also is vagcom vagcom needed after the install and is it hard to do for a first timer
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. Just a newbie :)

Nick - there are lots of resellers just depends on how you want to go with this. Starting at the top end of the market you can purchase one directly from VW which will run you a couple of thousand at least. There are several online stores that sell RNS units and the price point is somewhere south of the VW amount like MFD3 (http://www.mfd3.com/) and then there is eBay. I personally bought mine off ebay. Its the cheapest option around, and the guy that I bought it off has a very good reputation on this and other VW forums.. here is a link to his store (http://shop.ebay.com/used_parts_specialists/m.html). As with any eBay transaction if you go down that road make sure you ask the seller plenty of questions beforehand and let him know you are in Australia - so that he can load the right maps. Also ask him to send you a copy of the map DVD.

As for the Vagcom question - no you don't strictly speaking need to code the module to get it to work, but coding does do a couple of things. Firstly when you install a new module you'll get an "uncoded module fault" showing up in a VAS or Vagcom scan - no big deal - but the coding gets rid of this and the fault code. Secondly the instrument MFD will not accept input from the RNS until it has been coded. You can live without this but its also nice to have.

Good luck with the purchase.

[Paulb]

On the question of DIY or custom install, I rang Derek at European Autotech today, and he quoted me $1999 for supply and fit of latest LED RNS510, even after mentioning this forum. Personally I find that a bit steep, so I might go for eBay and DIY! Only concern (for me) is the VAGCOM for MFD.

[degers]

Paul, the Vagcom thing isn't that big a deal. What you won't get is the turn by turn instructions on the MFD when following a route - or your current location if not. I don't use it that much but I suppose it's nice to have it there..? It's honestly a 2 minute code and any dealer should be able to enable the function for free if you ask nicely enough - perhaps the next time you get it serviced.

As for the pricing, the major difference is warranty and after sales service. Buying off eBay (like I did) is great for getting the item much cheaper but you're without a safety net if anything goes wrong with the unit down the road. The guy I bought from offers a 90 day warranty - which is pretty good by online standards - but you would get at least 12 to 24 months if you bought from a local like European Autotech. Something to consider I suppose... it's kind of like insurance.

In the end if you decide to go down the eBay DIY road it's pretty easy to do...

[maff3w]

I have a 2006 Golf GTI which is equipped with a RCD310. I have purchased an RCD510. From what i have been reading on here is pretty much 100% likely that my "Canbus" is too old to meet the power requirements for my new unit.

Question 1. Are these parts able to be purchased from within Australia? Does anyone have a recommended place in Sydney which can sell this?

Question 2. VAGCOM - I need someone who is capable of doing this for me as i don't have the tool. I read the thread at http://www.vwgolf.net.au/showthread.php?2705-VAG-COM-Register but i feel uneasy about randomly sending someone a PM whom i don't know out of the blue, makes me feel a little rude. Is this something that VW can do? Or would you recommend against using them due to the cost they may charge?

The installation of the unit looks simple enough thanks to this great guide, just the connector & coding is my major roadblock.

If anyone has any ideas that might be able to help me out i would be forever greatful.

Regards,

Matt

[d2_dang]

Hey Matt,

I'm in the same boat as you, the only difference is I will be getting an RNS510 from the UK. For the can bus, sure you can get it within Australia. The only thing is they would be charging around $400 from the dealer. I am going to get one from ebay:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VW-OEM-CAN-BUS-gateway-1K0907530AD-1K0-907-530-AA-S-L-/300496000700?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item45f6f516bc

This one seems to be the latest (ie. 'AD') and also the cheapest on ebay. My only concern is that it is made in China whereas the rest I have seen have been made in Germany or Czech Republic. Is this can bus legit or a copy?? Hopefully someone out there can answer this.

Cheers,

Dennis

[RussGT]

d2-dang - It is advertised as being a factory OEM item so I would expect that it should be OK.

maff3w - I'm sure that someone will be able to help you out with the coding via VAGCOM all you need to do is ask nicely and maybe even shout them a cold beverage for their troubles. My son purchased a CANBUS unit from O/S also but I think it was from here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CAN-BUS-GATEWAY-VW-MFD-RNS510-GOLF-SKODA-2660-2860-2720-/170471706842. He had it installed by Derek at European Autotech in Sydney http://europeanautotech.com.au/contact he should be able to sort out your coding as well if you prefer. He is a great bloke, very reasonably priced and knows his stuff. Best of luck with it :)

[Stuart]

Folks,

Great thread very helpful.

I have just picked up a 2008 GTI (2 days ago) and I think I am going to upgrade to an RNS510 but I do have a couple of questions or clarifications which I don't think have been covered in this thread. Apologies if they have.

1. It seems that 2008 is right on the cusp of needing a new Canbus before installing the RNS510. Firstly what is a canbus :) and how do I check to see if mine is OK or needs swapping?
2. My car has FF bluetooth (which I think just does phone stuff?) and also rear parking sensors. I think I saw that these will just transfer to the new unit as they are wired into the loom? ie no issues. Correct?
3. The main reason I want a new system is so that I can get iPhone connectivity in my Golf. I think I have worked out that I need an MDI cable to do that as part of the RNS510. Is that correct?

I really appreciate the help.
Best wishes
S.

[d2_dang]

Folks,

Great thread very helpful.

I have just picked up a 2008 GTI (2 days ago) and I think I am going to upgrade to an RNS510 but I do have a couple of questions or clarifications which I don't think have been covered in this thread. Apologies if they have.

1. It seems that 2008 is right on the cusp of needing a new Canbus before installing the RNS510. Firstly what is a canbus :) and how do I check to see if mine is OK or needs swapping?
2. My car has FF bluetooth (which I think just does phone stuff?) and also rear parking sensors. I think I saw that these will just transfer to the new unit as they are wired into the loom? ie no issues. Correct?
3. The main reason I want a new system is so that I can get iPhone connectivity in my Golf. I think I have worked out that I need an MDI cable to do that as part of the RNS510. Is that correct?

I really appreciate the help.
Best wishes
S.

Hey Stuart,

I'm assuming you have the RCD500? If you are just wanting to have iPhone connectivity to play music then I would suggest just getting an MDI so that you can connect you iphone to the headunit. Also here is some more info about can bus:

http://www.my-gti.com/2296

Hope this helps.

[Stuart]

Thanks Dang.

I guess I need to read up on the MDI now then :)

Having said that, you guys have got me all excited about putting in a RNS510 so I may head in that direction. I guess that would still need a MDI anyway?

Cheers

[d2_dang]

No worries Stuart,

If you can go the rns510, I just bought mine off ebay from used_parts_specialist and the latest can bus off ebay.

All I need now is to find someone in Melbourne who is willing to help me out with coding (I.e.Vagcom) =P

[Stuart]

So if I'm reading correctly, the MDI interface cable (like this (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VW-RCD510-RCD310-RNS510-MEDIA-IN-MDI-IPOD-IPHONE-CABLE-/230603939905?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b110e041#ht_2953wt_929)) should plug into an adapter that is in the glove box? I dont have a connector in the glove box.....

Does that means that it should just plug straight into the back of the radio?

Confused....

[d2_dang]

So if I'm reading correctly, the MDI interface cable (like this (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VW-RCD510-RCD310-RNS510-MEDIA-IN-MDI-IPOD-IPHONE-CABLE-/230603939905?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b110e041#ht_2953wt_929)) should plug into an adapter that is in the glove box? I dont have a connector in the glove box.....

Does that means that it should just plug straight into the back of the radio?

Confused....


Sorry to confuse you Stuart..

To be honest I think I confused myself as well =P, upon more research you will not be able to fit an MDI kit into a second generation hu (I.e. RCD 300, RCD500 etc). Refer to this forum from VWW for more info:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f15/ipod-adapter-rcd500-41111.html

So in this case, if you dont want to upgrade to the rns510 then your best bet is to go with the Denison Gateway 100 which will be compatible with your current hu:

http://www.dension.com/product/ipod-car-adapter/ipod-iphone-auxin-id3/gateway-100

Once again apologies for the misleading info and I hope this clears things up

[M4RK0]

This is going to sound very newbie....

Does anyone knows another way to restart the RNS510 apart the < > and  buttons?

One of the two maybe I'm not pressing them properly or what? I simply don't get it to restart,

The only options are unplug the battery or the unit itself,

Cheers!

[M4RK0]

Hi guys,

Ok, something "weird" happened yesterday, I did the extra coding on my RNS to get the Navigation and Music menus back on the MFD, so,

I read again and followed the steps from Cam untick the last option, and then I had the issue of restarting the RNS, so, I leave it like that,

Today in the morning I switched on the car to go to work and the Navigation and Music menus were showing on the MFD!!!, same thing happened when they dissapeared, one day they were working and the next day they were gone,

It is possible that some kind of self-reboot of the RNS happens after a certain period of the car its been off, like overnight?????, the car is switched off for about 8hrs during my work time,

Hope I've explained myself properly,

I guess the real test will be tomorrow morning.......

[ozmale]

I have not had the problem you are explaining but the RNS510 is computerized and thus I always did a reboot after making any changes.

Chris

[M4RK0]

I have not had the problem you are explaining but the RNS510 is computerized and thus I always did a reboot after making any changes.

Chris

Hi Chris, what about this apparently self-reboot?,

As I mentioned before I had issues rebooting the RNS as silly as it sounds maybe I wan't pushing the bottons to the very end, I'll have look this weekend and report back :)

Cheers!

[eriktufa]

Just curious, would it be easier to install RCD-510 or is it just the same process with RNS-510?

[M4RK0]

Just curious, would it be easier to install RCD-510 or is it just the same process with RNS-510?

IMO, there's no benefit from the RCD300 to the 510, colour and touch secreen?, I love the SatNav function on the RNS as the MFD, and I don't feel annoyd about the installation, that was my main reason to get it and a really good deal for it that I couldn't resist,

I've learn heaps of it,

[M4RK0]

All right!, I just want to report that my RNS510 is working AWESOME!! one of the bests mods ever!, and for sure I'm taking it to the next car :)

[d2_dang]

All right!, I just want to report that my RNS510 us working AWESOME!! one of the bests mods ever!, and for sure I'm taking it to the next car :)

Good Stuff! Just put mine in on the weekend as well and am loving it, definately worth the money

[Stuart]

@ M4RKO and d2dang - where did you buy your RNS510's from please?

@dang - You need to change your profile now to RNS510 Fitted :)

Also does anyone know the latest RNS510 model and software version or where I can find this info?

I am trying to buy one and while looking, I am getting confused as to what is current, what is old, what i should be buying etc :)

As always, your help is much appreciated.

[Riley]

I know a few folks, including myself that purchased from Lithuania (used_parts_specialits) on Ebay and it was a great service. Make an offer. Unfortunately can not help you with the latest version. Mine was purchased in January/February and it was version c. No problems since day one.

Just had a quick look and looks like there is now a version D for sale. That must be close to the latest version

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VW-MFD3-RNS-510-passat-golf-Version-D-RNS510-LED-STAR-/190578455932?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c5f5c757c#ht_2192wt_1135

Make an offer, he does deal!

[Cam]

@ M4RKO and d2dang - where did you buy your RNS510's from please?


Hi Stuart,

I purchased my revision D unit from used_parts_specialists from eBay.
He is located in Lithuania (as Riley mentioned) but is completely legit. Very professional, extremely fast postage and great prices. I made an offer and acquired the Revision D RNS510 for $1080 shipped when it first came out.

RE: different versions etc:

The versions denote different hardware components in the unit.
A + B were the first models to come out. They're older, slower and not as good as the later versions.

Version C/D have LED screens (more crisp, bright and vibrant) as opposed to the LCD screen the A/B versions used. They also have faster processors and larger HDD's. A/B revisions had a 20GB HDD, C/D have a 30GB and the newer versions I think have a 40GB.

They are up to Revision E/F currently. These have only just come out, and I only found out about these earlier this week.

From the research I've done it appears the main differences they have over the C/D is a larger HDD, slightly faster processor, extra support for larger SD cards and a newer firmware shipped from stock. Apparently the newer firmware is faster and performs better. But from my experience I'm not sure there would be a huge difference between a revision D unit and a revision E unit.

I had a revision B in my MKV GTI, and now a Revision D in the MKVI GTI.
The screen is definitely more crisp, but its not that much faster. Other slight differences include two of the buttons on the unit have been changed and the interface startup logo is a little different.

I'd recommend going for atleast a Revision D onwards, as you'll more than likely have better support for future firmware upgrades.
http://www.mfd3.com/2011/09/version-ef-rns-510-is-here/

[chuppamello]

Will be getting version f soon

[chuppamello]

Sweet I'll need this

[M4RK0]

@ M4RKO and d2dang - where did you buy your RNS510's from please?


Hi Stuart,

Sorry for my delay, I got mine from another member, but mine is Australian, so the OZ maps were loaded alredy,

As Cam says, get the version D, is the latest, if not C will do,

Cheers!

[M4RK0]

Good Stuff! Just put mine in on the weekend as well and am loving it, definately worth the money

Every penny! bro!

[csd1uk]

Version C/D have LED screens (more crisp, bright and vibrant) as opposed to the LCD screen the A/B versions used. They also have faster processors and larger HDD's. A/B revisions had a 20GB HDD, C/D have a 30GB and the newer versions I think have a 40GB.

Hey Cam, sorry to be picky, but there are 2 versions of the C RNS510. One of these versions has a star key in the top right and the other I think a speaker with an i. The difference between these is that the star key version has the LED screen and the other still has the LCD screen.

Just so that anyone buying doesnt get caught out on this.

Cheers

[Cam]

No worries Chris! Thanks for the correction.
:)

[YouSnooze]

The screen is the same. The "LED" version only means it has a different form of backlighting. (to be pedantic)

[advancetech]

Hey Pato,

The MFD Display will most likely be the CAN-BAP fix.
Its an easy little change to do, once thats been done you just have to reboot the unt < + > + i buttons at the same time. I'm not sure if the CAN-BAP tick box would have any effect on the Nav not working properly, its possible I guess..seeing as the Navigation module is involved it could be a little confused and not think its installed or something.



Now that is strange. Sounds like it could be a maps related problem.
I have encountered that "There are no route recommendations found" message before (after updating firmware) and it turned out to be the maps. I just had to load the maps disc in, go for a drive and let the GPS get a fix, then put a destination in and it worked and after that never had the problem.

If you had a problem with the sat antenna it wouldn't be showing your current position as you're driving along. A few months ago a VW Dealership actually damaged my satnav cable (crushed the wire in half) and caused it to stop working. During this time I couldn't get anything working...absolutely nothing at all. So I think your issue is going to be more of a software/maps thing and not hardware.

I'd say try updating the maps when you get the ISO (burn it on a slow speed i.e 2x or 4x), go for a reasonable drive somewhere and see if it picks it up. Its also possible that there is a bug in the 27XX firmware. If needed I think you can downgrade to 2680.
Hi
I bought the RNS510 Ver c to replace the RCD510 in VW Touran 2008 installed it in my car every thing is working except the Navigation i tried to reset it but still it will not take signal and all the time it shows it is In Germany some where when i put any new address it calculates from there.and it shows 0/0 Signal status NO FIX.can you give any advice about this.
thanks

[Cam]

Sounds like a dodgy GPS antenna, or your maps need to be loaded/installed again.
I had a similar issue with no signal after I took my old GTI in for an unrelated warranty job. Turns out one of the techs crushed the satnav cable which left it degraded with exposed wiring and I couldn't get any signal fix at all.

I'd firstly try installing your maps again, if you have a copy of the map disc.
Failing that, try a new GPS antenna would be the next step I think.

[advancetech]

Sounds like a dodgy GPS antenna, or your maps need to be loaded/installed again.
I had a similar issue with no signal after I took my old GTI in for an unrelated warranty job. Turns out one of the techs crushed the satnav cable which left it degraded with exposed wiring and I couldn't get any signal fix at all.

I'd firstly try installing your maps again, if you have a copy of the map disc.
Failing that, try a new GPS antenna would be the next step I think.

Thanks fro quick reply.
I have tried the new Antenne bought from ebay but it is doing the same.
The unit did not came with the cd can i download maps from any website.
thanks

[Steve]

Where are you located Hafiz?

[advancetech]

Where are you located Hafiz?

Hi
I am in Newcastle upon tyne UK.
thanks

[Steve]

Hi
I am in Newcastle upon tyne UK.
thanksFor maps for UK/Europe, I can't help you, but I do suggest you make yourself known at these sites and use their respective search facilities. You may find something/someone that/who can help.

http://vwnavi.com/forum.php

http://gpsunderground.com/forum/car-navi-system/car-gps-systems/volkswagen-seat-skoda/

[M4RK0]

Apart from Steve's suggestion, you can try this ones,

http://www.uvworldwide.co.uk/ice-navigation/v8-vw-seat-skoda-rns-510-dvd-navigation-2012-w-speed-cameras-p-3481.html

Good luck!

[chuppamello]

Just finished installing the rns510, took me abit but I finally got there, I found the DIY rns510 guide on YouTube the biggest help

Just have a few questions

I get sound by dynaaudio on boot up now I know I need a cable to clear the code, where a bouts can I get a decent one

What codes need to be changed?

[M4RK0]

Just finished installing the rns510, took me abit but I finally got there, I found the DIY rns510 guide on YouTube the biggest help

Just have a few questions

I get sound by dynaaudio on boot up now I know I need a cable to clear the code, where a bouts can I get a decent one

What codes need to be changed?

I think apart from what Cam suggested, to enhance the audio quality, try this one,

http://www.my-gti.com/1411

Hope it helps

[chuppamello]

Thanks mate will give it a go as soon as my cable gets here

[AlexL]

this thread is /win

thanks! took a while to lock on to location but it did after about 10min.

[rpstry]

Finished an RCD510 install yesterday following the guide.
Lima + Cam great job on being so thorough! It was a massive help.