Golf R Tuning

[CJ9999]

I am looking around for a new car to buy sometime in the next few months and am thinking seriously about the Golf R. At this stage I am waiting on Volkswagen Australia releasing the specifications and pricing for the car in Australia and it being available for test driving.

From what I have read on-line it seems that the car will be released in Australia with the engine detuned from 199kw to 188kw, but with unchanged torque, due to Australia being designated a hot climate location. I have also seen in several forum postings that the “lost” power can be readily regained by “tuning” the car.

I’ve never owned a turbocharged car and I’ve never had after-market modifications made to a car, so I would appreciate any recommendations on after-market tuning potentially available for the Golf R in Sydney. I would like to see your views on types of tuning, where available from (supplier details), pricing and impacts on performance, drivability and fuel economy. Also, can anyone clarify whether engine tuning runs the risk of reducing warranty cover?

[Paolo]

i am almost 100% sure that the Golf R will have the same tuning as Audi S3's and Pirelli's since they share the K04 engine. There are various tuning companies, the big ones being, GIAC (>D), APR, REVO, Unitronic (although still starting off here) and Bluefin. There are numerous local dealers here but without starting a chip war, most say to go with whoevers closest to you and who offers the best customer support. Performance is increased dramatically especially if you get supporting modifications whilst still keeping the car tame enough for daily duties. Some say fuel economy is improved because there is more torque available which inclines you to not give as much throttle. Warranty is voided if they find out and the claim is engine related but VW would have to prove that the mod caused the fault to begin with.

umm... yeah =)

[silverbullet]

i think after you test drive it you won't need a tune. i mean isn't 0-100 in 5.5 secs quick enough for ya? look at it this way your schlong could always be an extra inch long. capish? i'd make sure you get DSG so you get launch control.

[CJ9999]

DSG is definitely one of the attractions.
Do you think that 0-100 in 5.5 sec will still be achievable with the lower kw in the Australian version?

[Paolo]

i heard that launch control was not enabled or did not perform properly on the newer models but not sure if it's true

[AP]

DSG is definitely one of the attractions.
Do you think that 0-100 in 5.5 sec will still be achievable with the lower kw in the Australian version?

That's what they are quoting!! It's only 10kw difference not really that big of a deal.. I know it's like the S3 but it's stil going to be crazy little car!!
I saw one the other day in the flesh at Artarmon chatswood classic cars service centre!! Looks hot in real life!!

[CJ9999]

I have seen launch control mentioned in a few overseas reviews of the Golf R, but who knows whether this will be in the Australian version.

[CJ9999]

That's what they are quoting!! It's only 10kw difference not really that big of a deal.. I know it's like the S3 but it's stil going to be crazy little car!!
I saw one the other day in the flesh at Artarmon chatswood classic cars service centre!! Looks hot in real life!!

Is 5.5 secs 0-100 being quoted for the Australian version?

[AP]

Is 5.5 secs 0-100 being quoted for the Australian version?

Yes it is!!!

[CJ9999]

Yes it is!!!

That's faster than my current car! That suggests that tuning may not be necessary. Looking forward to test driving the Golf R.

I have read that the expected Australian release date is mid-June. Does anyone have a more definite date?

[DeanCorp]

So who is retrofitting AWD into my Pirelli ;)

[HCGTI]

Is 5.5 secs 0-100 being quoted for the Australian version?

i can just imagine what one of these would be like with a GIAC extreme tune!!!

[∆pex]

i think after you test drive it you won't need a tune. i mean isn't 0-100 in 5.5 secs quick enough for ya? look at it this way your schlong could always be an extra inch long. capish? i'd make sure you get DSG so you get launch control.
:lol:

why settle for 6" johno, when you can have 10"! ;)

[HCGTI]

:lol:

why settle for 6" johno, when you can have 10"! ;)

like a wise man said to me and continues to say to me
" you can never have enough power" haha

[G-rig]

Johno has a point, at some stage you have to be happy with what you got haha.

[AP]

like a wise man said to me and continues to say to me
" you can never have enough power" haha

Oh yeah!!

[G-rig]

So who is retrofitting AWD into my Pirelli ;)

You would be better selling yours and upgrading..

[AP]

You would be better selling yours and upgrading..

Why, then he would be like everyone else!!! Be different.. Step outside the box!

[G-rig]

Why, then he would be like everyone else!!! Be different.. Step outside the box!

Yeah Dean could afford it so why not! But an AWD Pirelli could cost more than a new R and woudln't be able to sell it for any more than a stock one, as well as the cost to start with.

I'm sure he could transfer almost all of his mods though..

[S&H]

Why, then he would be like everyone else!!! Be different.. Step outside the box!


And have a better looking car to boot...

[silverbullet]

Got up close and personal with a blue golf r press car today. Impression quicker than gti. But it ain't no sleeper car. From front grill to frilled side skirt and rear diffuser it screams ''let's go bitch!'' the r32 mkiv and v retains sleeper status. Shhh don't tell no one.

To the above awd pirelli convert. Don't stop there. Drop a 3.2T in and you have an insane gti.

[silverbullet]

like a wise man said to me and continues to say to me
" you can never have enough power" haha

Yeh you never know you might need to overtake a veyron some day haha

[G-rig]

Got up close and personal with a blue golf r press car today. Impression quicker than gti. But it ain't no sleeper car. From front grill to frilled side skirt and rear diffuser it screams ''let's go bitch!'' the r32 mkiv and v retains sleeper status. Shhh don't tell no one.

It's a bit more boy racer, would still be quick none the less. The MKIV was a cult classic with raw feel, the MK5 improved in most areas but a bit more refined and less agressive styling. Both sound great with the V6 growl..


To the above awd pirelli convert. Don't stop there. Drop a 3.2T in and you have an insane gti.

That doesn't make sense - sell it and get an R32 then blow it.

[silverbullet]

That's what idoo rig but some people just love the gti badge. I should know.

[AP]

10d has a R GTI.....

[silverbullet]

He has a nice car 10d

[chugga44]

the golf R with the GIAC extreme setup i.e. intercooler, fuel pump, and tune plus a haldex i reckon would make this car a weapon...paolo thoughts???

i would love to be able to get all the power down with just my standard giac tune on my relli!!!

[S&H]

the golf R with the GIAC extreme setup i.e. intercooler, fuel pump, and tune plus a haldex i reckon would make this car a weapon...paolo thoughts???

i would love to be able to get all the power down with just my standard giac tune on my relli!!!

It already has Haldex II - can you mod the Haldex any further?

[G-rig]

It already has Haldex II - can you mod the Haldex any further?

I thought it may have come with Haldex Gen IV, as the MY09+ S3's come with Gen IV which is a good improvement apparently.

[S&H]

I thought it may have come with Haldex Gen IV, as the MY09+ S3's come with Gen IV which is a good improvement apparently.

You are probably right Greg. What the salesguy said was that it had the latest Haldex controller - I assumed that it was Gen II.

[chugga44]

i still thought there was a mod for the gen IV haldex???

[G-rig]

You are probably right Greg. What the salesguy said was that it had the latest Haldex controller - I assumed that it was Gen II.


i still thought there was a mod for the gen IV haldex???

A quick call to Guy H may clear it up as he's the national importer for Haldex. I can only assume it would have the same as the S3, Lima and others have confirmed the latest S3 come with it.

Some info here (http://www.goapr.com.au/products/haldex.html)

Generation 4:
-Suit VW Tiguan $1950
-Suit TTS,S3,TT, TT-RS, R36 (Part Number Specific)
Please note to ensure correct application, you original Haldex number is required. Stamped on base of rear assembly

http://www.goapr.com.au/products/Info_gen4.pdf

[M4RK0]

Got up close and personal with a blue golf r press car today. Impression quicker than gti. But it ain't no sleeper car. From front grill to frilled side skirt and rear diffuser it screams ''let's go bitch!'' the r32 mkiv and v retains sleeper status. Shhh don't tell no one.

To the above awd pirelli convert. Don't stop there. Drop a 3.2T in and you have an insane gti.

LOL!!! No better analysis of that body shape, it really makes you turn the head,

[S&H]

If I owned one, I know I wouldn't have to mod it further. The most I would do would be an tune. It would satisfy my car needs and (lack of) driving abilities for a long time. The problem I'd have is getting used to the looks.

[chugga44]

The problem I'd have is getting used to the looks.

amen

[silverbullet]

yeh it has this nauseating i'm trying hard to be a mazda 3 mps look about it the more i look at it.

[RKFChan]

Hope this isnt a repost but i've come across this on the internet:

Gives a ball park figure for the tune increases albeit on the 199kW version.

Anyone heard of these guys before?

http://imgs.worldcarfans.com/2010/6/29/medium/13100586191095998021.jpg
http://imgs.worldcarfans.com/2010/6/29/medium/1146859351350490317.jpg
http://imgs.worldcarfans.com/2010/6/29/medium/2128216715546845334.jpg


Sport-Wheels has unveiled a new performance package for the Volkswagen Golf VI R.

Under the hood, the company installs a revised ECU (€799) and a high performance exhaust system (€1,950) with 83mm tips. These modifications enable the 2.0-liter TSI engine to produce 330 PS (243 kW /325 bhp) and 450 Nm (332 lb-ft) of torque - instead of 270 PS (199 kW / 266 bhp) and 350 Nm (258 lb-ft).

To improve the Golf's handling, Sport-Wheels added an adjustable KW suspension (€1,549) and 20-inch Ultraleggera HLT wheels (€2,849 to €4,039) which weigh a combined 12 kilograms (26 pounds) less than the standard 19-inchers.

Last but not least, the car can be wrapped in foil for an extra €350.


http://www.worldcarfans.com/110062927096/vw-golf-vi-r-with-330-hp-by-sport-wheels

[Robby_jai]

just do what i did with my S3 :) identical engine same parts and all :)


CAI :)
Full Turbo Back System
High Pressure Fuel Pump
Stage 2+ Tune

All good for about 280-290 kw depending on tuning and good for a 0-100km/h sprint in the very very low 4's :) and a 0-400m sprint in the 12's :)

cant ask any more than that :) that whole set up would probably cost you at most 6k :)

but you may wanna think about getting bigger brakes cos that sucker goes :)


I am looking around for a new car to buy sometime in the next few months and am thinking seriously about the Golf R. At this stage I am waiting on Volkswagen Australia releasing the specifications and pricing for the car in Australia and it being available for test driving.

From what I have read on-line it seems that the car will be released in Australia with the engine detuned from 199kw to 188kw, but with unchanged torque, due to Australia being designated a hot climate location. I have also seen in several forum postings that the “lost” power can be readily regained by “tuning” the car.

I’ve never owned a turbocharged car and I’ve never had after-market modifications made to a car, so I would appreciate any recommendations on after-market tuning potentially available for the Golf R in Sydney. I would like to see your views on types of tuning, where available from (supplier details), pricing and impacts on performance, drivability and fuel economy. Also, can anyone clarify whether engine tuning runs the risk of reducing warranty cover?

[M4RK0]

A bit extreme bro!

[G-rig]

Don't forget an APR intercooler (the big one).. the R gets a smaller one from the factory than the S3!


If I owned one, I know I wouldn't have to mod it further. The most I would do would be an tune. It would satisfy my car needs and (lack of) driving abilities for a long time. The problem I'd have is getting used to the looks.

I think it would be a bit of a boring car if you didn't mod it.. the power is fairly linear and a bit underwhelming. A retune would definitely be welcomed.

[CJ9999]

just do what i did with my S3 :) identical engine same parts and all :)


CAI :)
Full Turbo Back System
High Pressure Fuel Pump
Stage 2+ Tune

All good for about 280-290 kw depending on tuning and good for a 0-100km/h sprint in the very very low 4's :) and a 0-400m sprint in the 12's :)

cant ask any more than that :) that whole set up would probably cost you at most 6k :)

but you may wanna think about getting bigger brakes cos that sucker goes :)

Since my original post in this thread, I've taken the first step and ordered a Golf R.

In relation to tuning, I had something a bit milder in mind, but I'll wait until I've had the car a while before making that decision.