bennyr32

[drewr]

Car looks great! Just one thing, i don't quite understand is why people are opting to go down the CVP road for NA tuning. I mean, sure, adding Cams and CVP may increase some power at high revs, but even so, you're going to need a damn good rolling road tune to compensate. VW spent millions developing the engines' variable inlet valves and cams to gain low end torque. The CVP eliminates the variable length runner flap hence loosing that low down torque. Is there something i'm missing??

Every one has their own opinions i guess, it will be interesting too see what you think..

But as said, the car looks brilliant =]

[bennyr32]

Car looks great! Just one thing, i don't quite understand is why people are opting to go down the CVP road for NA tuning. I mean, sure, adding Cams and CVP may increase some power at high revs, but even so, you're going to need a damn good rolling road tune to compensate. VW spent millions developing the engines' variable inlet valves and cams to gain low end torque. The CVP eliminates the variable length runner flap hence loosing that low down torque. Is there something i'm missing??

Every one has their own opinions i guess, it will be interesting too see what you think..

But as said, the car looks brilliant =]

haha yeah what u say is true.. but i may not lose all that much low down torque, i will hopefully be running 264/268 shrick cams i know jimmys car has proven to acheive good gains with these cams a bit of head work and a stock intake manifold 176awkw, mal(schoona) and i are going down the NA path and we want better power gains, so i thought i would try the cvp so hopefully i can hit the 180 mark! we will have to wait and see!

[bennyr32]

Nice R32, will be interesting to see your review of the CVP mani..
Did HPA ever release the specific cams in that "stage 2 kit" ? Last I heard they kept ignoring / avoiding the question and didn't release ANY information about it, gains etc..

CSR yes there is a CVP level 2 kit but you have to buy the whole kit and use the hpa tune because they have a special set of cams tuned to run with the cvp

[bennyr32]

Yes I have Benny also from an NA MKV R32 but you need an ECU tune to take advantage of the CVP which you know right? Installing all in 1 go is a good idea from a cost perspective too...

yeah jig im just collecting all my parts then ill take it down to aurthur in sydney and get they guys down there to do all the head work, tunning and installtions

[schoona]

Moar of Benny

[bennyr32]

cheers mal your a good bloke... most of the time

[bennyr32]

just spoke to jimmy im going to pickup his second set of cams on tuesday fuckyeah! that means i only need 2 more pieces to my collection then im ready to take it down the sydney toooooo get shit done!

[schoona]

Congrats man!!!!

[CSR]

just spoke to jimmy im going to pickup his second set of cams on tuesday fuckyeah! that means i only need one more piece to my collection then im ready to take it down the sydney toooooo get shit done!

I thought that HPA's specific cams were required with the CVP intake manifold?

CVP Level 2

Building around the CVP's re-calibrated short length runners, HPA has embraced a unique concept in performance camshafts which maximizes the airflow produced by the CVP intake manifold.

Unlike standard aftermarket cams* that were designed for the airflow characteristics of the OEM long runner intake manifold, the CVP Level 2 camshafts feature an intake cam which staggers the timing of the intake valves on the 24V 3.2L VR6; generating a swirl effect inside the combustion chamber.

This progressive opening of the two intake valves draws in the fuel load at a greater velocity due to the smaller venturi action. It then helps pull in the second charge at a faster rate. Both are key to optimize the performance of a high revving short runner package.

* Other aftermarket cams are incompatible with the CVP program and may result in performance loss

Also, what head work are you looking at doing? P&P ? I was looking into this as well when installing my cams, but not sure of the cost / any real benefits?

[schoona]

I thought that HPA's specific cams were required with the CVP intake manifold?



Also, what head work are you looking at doing? P&P ? I was looking into this as well when installing my cams, but not sure of the cost / any real benefits?

These are the same cams used in a Mk4 that made 176awkw NA, head was done by Lucas @ Eurospeed and the sound was phenomenal. He is the one you want to talk to, you are 5 steps in front by actually being in Melbourne.